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OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm

No, I'm accusing the MAGA A-Holes of changing the rules in regards to ICE being able to shoot a legal concealed carry protester.  If anyone on the Right screams about the rights of individuals to legally carry a weapon, then they should support Alex Pretti's right.

I agree that partisans are hypocrites. Enjoying the fruits of insurrection?

OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm

I, personally, do not support concealed carry, but I do recognize the hypocrisy of legitimizing the so called 2nd Amendment rights for MAGA, and not Alex Pretti.

You have your so called right think what you want. 

OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm

 NRA and pro-gun groups call for ‘full investigation’ into killing of Alex Pretti

Make up your mind. You ARE accusing those right wingers of consistency. Just like I said.

OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm

 The National Rifle Association (NRA) has joined other gun lobbying and advocacy groups that are typically aligned with Donald Trump in calling for the Republican president’s administration to conduct a “full investigation” into the killing of Alex Pretti, the 37-year-old nurse who was shot dead by federal immigration officials in Minneapolis on Saturday.

 Pretti was reportedly legally permitted to carry a gun and is a citizen of the US, where it is a constitutional right to bear arms. Widely circulated video of his shooting death does not depict him ever holding a gun. It does show an officer reaching to Pretti’s lower back and stepping away with what appeared to be a pistol – and Pretti being subsequently shot to death.

It's shocking that a professional man with a college degree managed to get himself killed at the age of 37, **** with the bull and getting the horn.

I don't APPROVE of it. But I get that it wasn't a lightning bolt or an act of God. It was a retard stepping to homicidal goons and getting his Jesus ticket punched.

OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm

Thomas Massie, a Republican US representative of Kentucky, separately wrote to Essayli: “Carrying a firearm is not a death sentence, it’s a Constitutionally protected God-given right, and if you don’t understand this you have no business in law enforcement or government.”

I agree with Massie and applaud his message.

OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 3:20 pm

Nonetheless, Essayli’s post received a community note on X which said the US constitution prohibits “officers from shooting citizens merely for possessing a weapon that is not an ‘imminent threat’”. Beside the second amendment, the community note alluded to the constitution’s fourth amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure and its 14th amendment rights to equal protection under the law.

Yes, we have become quite fascist. And not overnight. Not with the advent of Trump. This is just another day in the hood. But a different set of autocrats are in charge. Your insurrection is going to get you killed.

Keep fighting the good fight. I'm with ya in spirit.
 

*Roshambo » 25 Jan 2026, 6:45 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 6:45 pm

All of the sudden extra magazines are a weapon?
Take a stand and stop flip-flopping (unless that is the way you role)    
 

It is spelled "roll"  not role.

How can you be this dumb? How can I dumb it down so that you understand it?

I am opposed to cops murdering citizens, and I consider both of the cases in MN to be cops murdering citizens. 

I am also opposed to the death penalty. But a part of me was still a LITTLE bit happy when florida put Ted Bundy down. 

It is perfectly normal and understandable that I could be willing to convict those cops of murder and send them to prison, and STILL enjoy watching you jackoffs get gunned by the police state you brought about - ESPECIALLY when you sit pretty for it like poodles in heat. 

Google schadenfreude, and just TRY, son. Just try. Meanwhile, step up and be a good American. Go to minnesota and take a courageous stand for the illegal muds, fruitcake. 
 

OdeToJoy » 25 Jan 2026, 6:14 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 6:14 pm

I'm not, but these groups are:

NRA and pro-gun groups call for ‘full investigation’ into killing of Alex Pretti

Groups typically aligned with Trump call for investigation as NRA wades into the national dialogue

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... gun-groups

The National Rifle Association (NRA) has joined other gun lobbying and advocacy groups that are typically aligned with Donald Trump in calling for the Republican president’s administration to conduct a “full investigation” into the killing of Alex Pretti, the 37-year-old nurse who was shot dead by federal immigration officials in Minneapolis on Saturday.

 Pretti was reportedly legally permitted to carry a gun and is a citizen of the US, where it is a constitutional right to bear arms. Widely circulated video of his shooting death does not depict him ever holding a gun. It does show an officer reaching to Pretti’s lower back and stepping away with what appeared to be a pistol – and Pretti being subsequently shot to death.

Thomas Massie, a Republican US representative of Kentucky, separately wrote to Essayli: “Carrying a firearm is not a death sentence, it’s a Constitutionally protected God-given right, and if you don’t understand this you have no business in law enforcement or government.”

as they all should be...yet history knows how that goes...JFK and teddy comes to mind...

this is an interesting comment I ran across...

 When you are involved in a physical struggle with a a Law Enforcement Officer while carrying a firearm, bad things are going to happen. At some point in that struggle, all energy will be spent. Someone is liable to be shot. In this case, it was the civilian. Had the armed civilian surrendered himself peacefully to the officer, he would be alive today. He made a few bad decisions that day. First, he took a loaded gun and two full ammo clips with him without [reportedly] having his ID or gun permit. [this nullifies the "legal carry"] Secondly, he injected himself into a lawful Law Enforcement operation. Thirdly, he became involved in a physical struggle while violently resisting the authority of Law Enforcement agents. THIS is what caused his demise. Stop with the emotional rhetoric. He is totally responsible for what occurred that day.
 
 

ROG62 » 25 Jan 2026, 8:38 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 8:38 pm

as they all should be...yet history knows how that goes...JFK and teddy comes to mind...

this is an interesting comment I ran across...

 When you are involved in a physical struggle with a a Law Enforcement Officer while carrying a firearm, bad things are going to happen. At some point in that struggle, all energy will be spent. Someone is liable to be shot. In this case, it was the civilian. Had the armed civilian surrendered himself peacefully to the officer, he would be alive today. He made a few bad decisions that day. First, he took a loaded gun and two full ammo clips with him without [reportedly] having his ID or gun permit. [this nullifies the "legal carry"] Secondly, he injected himself into a lawful Law Enforcement operation. Thirdly, he became involved in a physical struggle while violently resisting the authority of Law Enforcement agents. THIS is what caused his demise. Stop with the emotional rhetoric. He is totally responsible for what occurred that day.

So do Gun Control.. You are trying to now. You are going to be very upset when the pendulum swings back..

Pretti was entitled to protect himself with a weapon. He had the concealed weapons permit. It was removed from his person and taken yards away prior to the shooting..  How does one one know  when some MAGA nut will go on a libby shooting spree? You guys are losing your shyt fast..

The shooting went from justified in 15 minutes to we better investigate 2 days later,  The crime scene is compromised now. Her name will be UnNoem Soon. Trump "leaked" her shyt will be gone soon last night. Krispi is under the bus this morning..  SPam Blundi is cornered.  The women are going to get desperate.  You know about a scorned bitch don't ya?

youtu.be/khrx-zrG460?si=xAx3vytsqyv80PmM

 
 

Marjorie Taylor Greene: You’re all being ‘incited into civil war’

Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) urged President Trump’s MAGA base to “take off their political blinders” as she expressed skepticism about the use of force deployed during the latest shooting in Minnesota involving a federal immigration agent.

In a post on the social platform X, Greene touted her support for law enforcement and immigration enforcement, but she also defended the right to legally carry firearms, indirectly pushing back on claims that 37-year-old Alex Pretti posed a threat to federal officers by virtue of carrying a firearm.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5705 ... minnesota/

JohnnyYou » 26 Jan 2026, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 2:49 am

So do Gun Control.. You are trying to now. You are going to be very upset when the pendulum swings back..

Pretti was entitled to protect himself with a weapon. He had the concealed weapons permit. It was removed from his person and taken yards away prior to the shooting..  How does one one know  when some MAGA nut will go on a libby shooting spree? You guys are losing your shyt fast..

The shooting went from justified in 15 minutes to we better investigate 2 days later,  The crime scene is compromised now. Her name will be UnNoem Soon. Trump "leaked" her shyt will be gone soon last night. Krispi is under the bus this morning..  SPam Blundi is cornered.  The women are going to get desperate.  You know about a scorned bitch don't ya?

youtu.be/khrx-zrG460?si=xAx3vytsqyv80PmM

One also has to prove when asked to legally carry...w/o ID or permit, he's ****...

as to the rest of your rant? Put the dope away and concentrate on your resume...or "the scorned bitch" laying next to you is gonna throw your sorry *** out...  
 
 
 

*Roshambo » 26 Jan 2026, 3:54 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 3:54 am

Marjorie Taylor Greene: You’re all being ‘incited into civil war’

Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) urged President Trump’s MAGA base to “take off their political blinders” as she expressed skepticism about the use of force deployed during the latest shooting in Minnesota involving a federal immigration agent.

In a post on the social platform X, Greene touted her support for law enforcement and immigration enforcement, but she also defended the right to legally carry firearms, indirectly pushing back on claims that 37-year-old Alex Pretti posed a threat to federal officers by virtue of carrying a firearm.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5705 ... minnesota/

he did pose a threat, permit is irrelevant...

would you bring your weapon and 2 spare mags to a LEO operation (without ID or permit) with plans on potentially interfering or would you leave it in your vehicle?
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Jan 2026, 8:12 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2026, 8:12 pm

It is spelled "roll"  not role.

How can you be this dumb? How can I dumb it down so that you understand it?

I am opposed to cops murdering citizens, and I consider both of the cases in MN to be cops murdering citizens. 

I am also opposed to the death penalty. But a part of me was still a LITTLE bit happy when florida put Ted Bundy down. 

It is perfectly normal and understandable that I could be willing to convict those cops of murder and send them to prison, and STILL enjoy watching you jackoffs get gunned by the police state you brought about - ESPECIALLY when you sit pretty for it like poodles in heat. 

Google schadenfreude, and just TRY, son. Just try. Meanwhile, step up and be a good American. Go to minnesota and take a courageous stand for the illegal muds, fruitcake.

funny, the VaG was all over @Huey  yesterday berating him about his grammar...  karma...
 

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2026, 5:33 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 5:33 am

One also has to prove when asked to legally carry...w/o ID or permit, he's ****...

as to the rest of your rant? Put the dope away and concentrate on your resume...or "the scorned bitch" laying next to you is gonna throw your sorry *** out...

I launched my campaign for congress yesterday...  I have 47$K in donations already!

Quiet Piggy!

youtu.be/X7qMncTtvnE?si=wSw6A0f7MER3_f3j[INSERT DUT CUM HERE]
 

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2026, 5:40 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 5:40 am

he did pose a threat, permit is irrelevant...

would you bring your weapon and 2 spare mags to a LEO operation (without ID or permit) with plans on potentially interfering or would you leave it in your vehicle?

When I carry, I bring one spare magazine and sometimes two.

No, he didn't pose a threat. Pretti was filming the events with a cell phone and was 50 feet away from the nearest agent. The agent rushed him; pushed him; sprayed him; they disarmed him; then they shot him.

Why? Going forward, it appears it will be necessary to protect oneself from a tyrannical government.
 
 

https://i.postimg.cc/fRYQSpW8/take.jpg

*Roshambo » 26 Jan 2026, 6:12 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:12 am

When I carry, I bring one spare magazine and sometimes two.

No, he didn't pose a threat. Pretti was filming the events with a cell phone and was 50 feet away from the nearest agent. The agent rushed him; pushed him; sprayed him; they disarmed him; then they shot him.

Why? Going forward, it appears it will be necessary to protect oneself from a tyrannical government.

i.postimg.cc/fRYQSpW8/take.jpg

It's a Facist Totalatarian Authoratarianistic Takeover..

You may have voted for Trump. But it's clear you are ready to align with The Resistance.

2A Right Foot shot dead in their mouths.
 
 

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2026, 5:40 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 5:40 am

he did pose a threat, permit is irrelevant...

would you bring your weapon and 2 spare mags to a LEO operation (without ID or permit) with plans on potentially interfering or would you leave it in your vehicle?

He came loaded for bear. Poor Ashley didn't even have a firearm and was shot and killed. Eye for an eye?
 

*Roshambo » 26 Jan 2026, 6:12 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:12 am

When I carry, I bring one spare magazine and sometimes two.

No, he didn't pose a threat. Pretti was filming the events with a cell phone and was 50 feet away from the nearest agent. The agent rushed him; pushed him; sprayed him; they disarmed him; then they shot him.

Why? Going forward, it appears it will be necessary to protect oneself from a tyrannical government.

https://i.postimg.cc/fRYQSpW8/take.jpg

Take your *** on out there to the protest and make sure you take your firearm, tough guy. 
 

MR-7 » 26 Jan 2026, 6:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:28 am

He came loaded for bear. Poor Ashley didn't even have a firearm and was shot and killed. Eye for an eye?

You are straining.. Boy, you gotta carry that weight a long time.

It's gonna be tough with your 2A Right foot in your mouth with a gunshot wound.

A normal pro guns right activist would be supporting Pretti's rights.
 
 
 

MR-7 » 26 Jan 2026, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:33 am

Take your *** on out there to the protest and make sure you take your firearm, tough guy.

Walk your Husky around Kristi Noem.

That Husky has your mud on his helmet 
 
You FDBHW says you are a sissy       
 
 

MR-7 » 26 Jan 2026, 6:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:28 am

He came loaded for bear. Poor Ashley didn't even have a firearm and was shot and killed. Eye for an eye?

The irony, right?

*Roshambo » 26 Jan 2026, 6:12 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:12 am

When I carry, I bring one spare magazine and sometimes two.

No, he didn't pose a threat. Pretti was filming the events with a cell phone and was 50 feet away from the nearest agent. The agent rushed him; pushed him; sprayed him; they disarmed him; then they shot him.

Why? Going forward, it appears it will be necessary to protect oneself from a tyrannical government.

https://i.postimg.cc/fRYQSpW8/take.jpg

they rushed him? From 50'?   

dude, stfu...
 

JohnnyYou » 26 Jan 2026, 6:03 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:03 am

I launched my campaign for congress yesterday...  I have 47$K in donations already!

Quiet Piggy!

youtu.be/X7qMncTtvnE?si=wSw6A0f7MER3_f3j[INSERT DUT CUM HERE]

 

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2026, 6:43 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:43 am

The irony, right?

I have the same sympathy for Good and Pretti, that the left had for Ashley.
 

ROG62 » 26 Jan 2026, 6:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2026, 6:45 am

they rushed him? From 50'?   

dude, stfu...

JuCo,
I provided "highlights" of the events that led up to the execution.

Watch the videos