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Deezer Shoove » 09 Feb 2026, 3:21 pm » wrote: My method includes looking at PortaJohnny and BlaVe posts . . .
. . . then thinking exactly the opposite.

Also, cartoons. Lots of cartoons.

These are two great methods to seek a mental fantasy world. :wave:  
there are two other methods most use to justify their character in reality.
1. never accept how biological results are exactly where they are evolving in plain sight now.
2. stick with a reality's message no matter what someone being honest about adapting in plain sight says.
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Mrkelly » 09 Feb 2026, 2:56 pm » wrote: Image  because you kept saying that you did not give them a pass

and didn’t answer “was the killing justified”

 
How the hell else would a rational man interpret that?  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

If I defended ICE, then would that mean I would be saying the killing was justified? God you are dumb.
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Vegas » 09 Feb 2026, 4:35 pm » wrote: How the hell else would a rational man interpret that?  Image   Image   Image   Image   Image   Image  

If I defended ICE, then would that mean I would be saying the killing was justified? God you are dumb.
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Mrkelly » 06 Feb 2026, 5:07 pm » wrote: ...

YOU support a police state … we get it 

**** off
I agree. He is a goon and he supports a police state. But how big does that specter loom against the backdrop of the already long extant police state? There's an indistrial-sized barn door through which a truckload of whataboutism has room to do a 3 point turn. 

The goons on the left cheered me being denied access to public spaces for refusing an experiment. They agreed with howie stern that I should be denied access to medical care for refusing to be a guinea pig. The left were quiet as church mice as cities burned and a mere **** child was set-up for lynching for the crime of standing up for his community. HIS **** ASSAILANTS WERE THE WITNESSES AGAINST HIM AT TRIAL. Quiet as **** church mice when two lawyers were e-ssassinated and e-lynched for guarding their home from a violent, trespassing, race-baiting mob. NOT so quiet, actually. The left CHEERED the police state, SUPPORTED the police state, DEMANDED the police state and DEFENDED the police state. 

And now the billy club is in the other hand. 

Trump hasn't burned children to death in a church or anything. Trump isn't a democrat, for **** sake. But there's been some goonery and buffoonery, and the outraged shrieks seem a bit **** late coming. 

The sudden, born-again-in-Jesus-and-Freedom sensibilities coming from the left has such a stench of hypocrisy and gaslight that it becomes a thing to be giggled at. One of the cocksuckers on this very board called for my public execution for refusing to vax. Vent your spleen at him for a minute or two. He called for the murder of law abiding citizens.You are incensed at the treatment of people who at least TECHNICALLY broke the **** law. I never broke any **** law, but I was locked down for not lab-ratting, and my speech was suppressed, and my most basic human rights were very openly conspired against - all to the acclaim, applause, and support of people who are suddenly sucking George Washington's dick. Guess they forgot he owned slaves for a minute, when it was convenient. 

I just find the outrage about a police state facile and late coming. The political violence and election interference fascism of 2016 and 2020 are not a distant memory to me. Political criminals burning cities and police bowing the knee to them and protecting them, or at minimum ignoring them - a real world political marionette show CLEARLY intended to intimidate undecided voters - is not a distant memory to me. The loss of my freedom of movement and the lived experience of threats against my very life are not a distant memory to me. The very real concern, based on actual news reports and political threats supported by the people cry-babying now, that I might be forced to choose between being a lab rat or being deprived of the right to work, buy, sell, leave my home - that **** LINGERS. I have not got over that ****. And I won't, ever, is my guess.

I have **** to COMPARE this "police state" to, and although I DO see a police state, I DO NOT see something new, as you appear to. I see a police state entering puberty - not the nascent police state you seem to be alarmed by. And I see the *** that I more identify with doing it BACK to the *** that you more identify with. And I have a hard time reminding myself that I am a man of principle. My commitment to principle tends to flicker a tad when I hear outrage coming from the left. Something comes to mind about straining at gnats while swallowing camels. And not one **** thing about the words "what about" feels like a fallacy or a short cut. It feels like if I DON'T yell "what about," my head will explode. 

In general, I find police states to be a "bad" thing. But as "bad" things go, I would call the CURRENT police state the best of a bad bunch. It has its **** moments. 
 
 
 
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Johnny You » 09 Feb 2026, 7:47 pm » wrote: Nebraska is ****..
 
Not as much as you keep screwing yourself up staying in character 24/7. Nebraska is just a geographical landmass people living by a state of mind occupy staying alive between cradle and grave.
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Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2026, 2:31 am » wrote: I agree. He is a goon and he supports a police state. But how big does that specter loom against the backdrop of the already long extant police state? There's an indistrial-sized barn door through which a truckload of whataboutism has room to do a 3 point turn. 

The goons on the left cheered me being denied access to public spaces for refusing an experiment. They agreed with howie stern that I should be denied access to medical care for refusing to be a guinea pig. The left were quiet as church mice as cities burned and a mere **** child was set-up for lynching for the crime of standing up for his community. HIS **** ASSAILANTS
you are right at every turn 

BUTWHATABOUT  is warranted 

my problem with now is, this version of a police state is a test run for the oligarchy 

not make you wear masks

not lock you down 

not just making you take the snot shot to keep your job (personal experience) 

that didn’t work 

But **** making it accessible for our government to install troops to shut you the **** up is being excepted 

just look at this thread 

I have shown that our government is killing people with impunity 

I get your points 

But this seems different to me 

Making sex change acceptable, making trans people leading realding  time in elementary schools can be rejected by society 

The acceptance of troops busting heads in our cities to shut down decent can not 

by the time they “manufacture consent” (like is witnessed in this thread)  it is over

again … this country is **** 

 
 
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Mrkelly » 10 Feb 2026, 8:16 pm » wrote: you are right at every turn 

BUTWHATABOUT  is warranted 

my problem with now is, this version of a police state is a test run for the oligarchy 

not make you wear masks

not lock you down 

not just making you take the snot shot to keep your job (personal experience) 

that didn’t work 

But **** making it accessible for our government to install troops to shut you the **** up is being excepted 

just look at this thread 

I have shown that our government is killing people with impunity 

I get your points 

But this seems different to me 

Making sex change acceptable, making trans people leading realding  time in elementary schools can be rejected by society 

The acceptance of troops busting heads in our cities to shut down decent can not 

by the time they “manufacture consent” (like is witnessed in this thread)  it is over

again … this country is ****
Yes, they are selling nameless faceless goons in paramilitary gear with no accountability keeping order - or, fascism. 

But it's not QUITE there yet. We DO know the names of the doers, do we not?

I'm back to where I started: as police states go, this one beats the democ rat version. 

The jackboot is on the other foot, and I am not on the **** end of the stick this time around. 
 
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Mrkelly » 10 Feb 2026, 8:16 pm » wrote: you are right at every turn 

BUTWHATABOUT  is warranteed 

my problem with now is, this version of a police state is a test run for the oligarchy 

not make you wear masks

not lock you down 

not just making you take the snot shot to keep your job (personal experience) 

that didn’t work 

But **** making it accessible for our government to install troops to shut you the **** up is being excepted 

just look at this thread 

I have shown that our government is killing people with impunity 

I get your points 

But this seems different to me 

Making sex change acceptable, making trans people leading realding  time in elementary schools can be rejected by society 

The acceptance of troops busting heads in our cities to shut down decent can not 

by the time they “manufacture consent” (like is witnessed in this thread)  it is over

again … this country is **** 

 
 
Corrected your post. second line. Rule of law warrantees humans rights to disavow hoe evolving actually works 24/7 in favor of believing now isn't eternity where genetic outcomes only exist as eternally separated when genetically alive in their specific universal position now.
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DeezerShoove » 09 Feb 2026, 3:21 pm » wrote: My method includes looking at PortaJohnny and BlaVe posts . . .
. . . then thinking exactly the opposite.

Also, cartoons. Lots of cartoons.

These are two great methods to seek a mental fantasy world. Image
And the best part, it isn't taxing...
 
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Mrkelly » 09 Feb 2026, 10:08 am » wrote: OK … so you are OK with this video too? 

don’t worry… it is short 

https://youtu.be/LVcGQg8l9GA?si=XEAaXAPS6i6CgOte

Image  I already know this answer
What the lawyer fails to mention is it was reported  that Pretti's weapon supposedly went off...now there's no way to determine from a **** video, it it went off first, or where it was at the time, but the other officers wouldn't know that...right?

MN CCP law states it's your duty to retreat when confronted...an epic fail that's on Pretti

I.C.E. , FBI, ATF, DEA, etc are not trained for crowd control, that's what police are trained for. That's on Frey for not allowing them to engage with I.C.E. for crowd control...

I.C.E., FBI, ATF, DEA, etc are trained to end the threat when a gun comes out, as are the military...they are trained to react immediately...IE, no conference calls, huddles, etc...

it's very tragic that Pretti threw away his life over something so stupid and preventable abandoning his wife and children...that's on him, tampon and all the other **** idiots pushing these people into harms way for a political agenda...
 
 
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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ROG62 » 11 Feb 2026, 10:24 am » wrote: What the lawyer fails to mention is it was reported  that Pretti's weapon supposedly went off...now there's no way to determine from a **** video, it it went off first, or where it was at the time, but the other officers wouldn't know that...right?

MN CCP law states it's your duty to retreat when confronted...an epic fail that's on Pretti

I.C.E. , FBI, ATF, DEA, etc are not trained for crowd control, that's what police are trained for. That's on Frey for not allowing them to engage with I.C.E. for crowd control...

I.C.E., FBI, ATF, DEA, etc are trained to end the threat when a gun comes out, as are the military...they are trained to react immediately...IE, no conference calls, huddles, etc...

it's very tragic that Pretti threw away his life over something so stupid and preventable abandoning his wife and children...that's on him, tampon and all the other **** idiots pushing these people into harms way for a political agenda...
Image  They video does show them taking his gun away 

Making him unarmed … then he  was shot 10 times in the back as his hands were on the ground 

where was it “reported “ that his gun went off? 

you’re OK with it Rog, I get it 

That would have surprised me about you a while back 

not anymore 
 
 
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Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 11:16 am » wrote: Image  They video does show them taking his gun away 

Making him unarmed … then he  was shot 10 times in the back as his hands were on the ground 

where was it “reported “ that his gun went off? 

you’re OK with it Rog, I get it 

That would have surprised me about you a while back 

not anymore
Your usual evasions. You deliberately disregard this part of his post, because you know it changes things. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your evasions are so damn blatant?   :rofl:   :rofl:  You don't even try to hide your cowardice.  :die:  
What the lawyer fails to mention is it was reported  that Pretti's weapon supposedly went off...now there's no way to determine from a **** video

1. Of course, you will evade again. 
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Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 11:24 am » wrote: Your usual evasions. You deliberately disregard this part of his post, because you know it changes things. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your evasions are so damn blatant?   Image   Image  You don't even try to hide your cowardice.  Image  

1. Of course, you will evade again.
:die:  no wonder BV calls you an idiot

I asked him where it was reported …. Idiot  :die:  
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Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 12:38 pm » wrote: Image  no wonder BV calls you an idiot

I asked him where it was reported …. Idiot  Image
BV regularly looks in the mirror while he is posting.  :rofl:   :rofl:  
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From which you are running...



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Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 12:38 pm » wrote: Image  no wonder BV calls you an idiot

I asked him where it was reported …. Idiot  Image
**** you ya lying traitor bastard!
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Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 12:39 pm » wrote: BV regularly looks in the mirror while he is posting.  Image   Image
Yur big on AI answers   

:die:  idiot 

AI Overview
Based on video analysis and witness reports, Alex Pretti’s gun did not go off; rather, federal agents shot and killed him after they had already disarmed him
. Evidence indicates that an agent removed Pretti's handgun from his waistband just before the shots were fired, with one agent heard saying "I got the gun" seconds after the incident. 
  • Evidence Against Discharge: Multiple videos, including those analyzed by CNN and other news outlets, show a Border Patrol agent removing the weapon from Pretti’s waistband while he was on the ground.
  • Video Contradicts Official Claim: While officials initially suggested a defensive shooting, forensic analysis of the footage shows the agent in the gray jacket was behind Pretti and that the gun was already secured.
  • Initial Action: Pretti was holding a cell phone, not a gun, in the moments before being tackled and pinned.
  • Sequence of Events: After the gun was removed, agents fired approximately ten shots in five seconds, continuing even after Pretti was motionless
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Therefore, evidence indicates that Pretti did not brandish or fire his weapon, and he was shot after being disarmed by authorities
 
 
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ROG62 » 11 Feb 2026, 10:24 am » wrote: What the lawyer fails to mention is it was reported  that Pretti's weapon supposedly went off...now there's no way to determine from a **** video, it it went off first, or where it was at the time, but the other officers wouldn't know that...right?

MN CCP law states it's your duty to retreat when confronted...an epic fail that's on Pretti

I.C.E. , FBI, ATF, DEA, etc are not trained for crowd control, that's what police are trained for. That's on Frey for not allowing them to engage with I.C.E. for crowd control...

I.C.E., FBI, ATF, DEA, etc are trained to end the threat when a gun comes out, as are the military...they are trained to react immediately...IE, no conference calls, huddles, etc...

it's very tragic that Pretti threw away his life over something so stupid and preventable abandoning his wife and children...that's on him, tampon and all the other **** idiots pushing these people into harms way for a political agenda...
AI Overview

Based on video analysis and witness reports, Alex Pretti’s gun did not go off; rather, federal agents shot and killed him after they had already disarmed him
. Evidence indicates that an agent removed Pretti's handgun from his waistband just before the shots were fired, with one agent heard saying "I got the gun" seconds after the incident. 
  • Evidence Against Discharge: Multiple videos, including those analyzed by CNN and other news outlets, show a Border Patrol agent removing the weapon from Pretti’s waistband while he was on the ground.
  • Video Contradicts Official Claim: While officials initially suggested a defensive shooting, forensic analysis of the footage shows the agent in the gray jacket was behind Pretti and that the gun was already secured.
  • Initial Action: Pretti was holding a cell phone, not a gun, in the moments before being tackled and pinned.
  • Sequence of Events: After the gun was removed, agents fired approximately ten shots in five seconds, continuing even after Pretti was motionless
    .
Therefore, evidence indicates that Pretti did not brandish or fire his weapon, and he was shot after being disarmed by authorities
 
 
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Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 12:43 pm » wrote: Yur big on AI answers   

Image  idiot 

AI Overview
Based on video analysis and witness reports, Alex Pretti’s gun did not go off; rather, federal agents shot and killed him after they had already disarmed him
. Evidence indicates that an agent removed Pretti's handgun from his waistband just before the shots were fired, with one agent heard saying "I got the gun" seconds after the incident. 
  • Evidence Against Discharge: Multiple videos, including those analyzed by CNN and other news outlets, show a Border Patrol agent removing the weapon from Pretti’s waistband while he was on the ground.
  • Video Contradicts Official Claim: While officials initially suggested a defensive shooting, forensic analysis of the footage shows the agent in the gray jacket was behind Pretti and that the gun was already secured.
  • Initial Action: Pretti was holding a cell phone, not a gun, in the moments before being tackled and pinned.
  • Sequence of Events: After the gun was removed, agents fired approximately ten shots in five seconds, continuing even after Pretti was motionless
    .
Therefore, evidence indicates that Pretti did not brandish or fire his weapon, and he was shot after being disarmed by authorities

Good. Proof is all I asked for. Anything else I can help you with? 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
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From which you are running...



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Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 12:46 pm » wrote: Good. Proof is all I asked for. Anything else I can help you with?

He'll probably ask for a loan.
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Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 12:46 pm » wrote: Good. Proof is all I asked for. Anything else I can help you with?
:die:  that’s what I asked Rog before you turned into an idiot
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