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Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 1:00 pm

  that’s what I asked Rog before you turned into an idiot

I can always count on you and BV projecting.       

Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm

I can always count on you and BV projecting.       

  Forgetting that people can read again

I asked Rog “where was it reported that his gun went off”

you the idiot said   “ Your usual evasions, You deliberately disregard this part of his post“   

I then showed you both proof that “his gun did not go off”

then you the idiot said “ Good. Proof is all I asked for“   

like that isn’t THE SAME EXACT THING THAT I ASKED FOR   

then you the idiot made the above comment that “I was projecting “   

Thank you for your attention to this matter   






 

Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 12:44 pm

AI Overview

Based on video analysis and witness reports, Alex Pretti’s gun did not go off; rather, federal agents shot and killed him after they had already disarmed him
. Evidence indicates that an agent removed Pretti's handgun from his waistband just before the shots were fired, with one agent heard saying "I got the gun" seconds after the incident. 

• Evidence Against Discharge: Multiple videos, including those analyzed by CNN and other news outlets, show a Border Patrol agent removing the weapon from Pretti’s waistband while he was on the ground.
• Video Contradicts Official Claim: While officials initially suggested a defensive shooting, forensic analysis of the footage shows the agent in the gray jacket was behind Pretti and that the gun was already secured.
• Initial Action: Pretti was holding a cell phone, not a gun, in the moments before being tackled and pinned.
• Sequence of Events: After the gun was removed, agents fired approximately ten shots in five seconds, continuing even after Pretti was motionless
  .

Therefore, evidence indicates that Pretti did not brandish or fire his weapon, and he was shot after being disarmed by authorities

AI is heavily dependent on the quality of the data it learns from; if the data is inaccurate or biased, the AI's outputs will also be flawed. This principle is often summarized as "Garbage In, Garbage Out," meaning that poor data leads to poor results.

I posted factual information while you're posting opinion under the guise of "artificial" intelligence...IE opinion...
 
 
IOW, is it "word"?

ROG62 » 13 Feb 2026, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2026, 2:57 pm

AI is heavily dependent on the quality of the data it learns from; if the data is inaccurate or biased, the AI's outputs will also be flawed. This principle is often summarized as "Garbage In, Garbage Out," meaning that poor data leads to poor results.

I posted factual information while you're posting opinion under the guise of "artificial" intelligence...IE opinion...

IOW, is it "word"?

****

you said “it has been reported that his gun went off”

you posted ZERO “factual information “ 

how do you guys keep thinking that nobody can read? 
 

ROG62 » 13 Feb 2026, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2026, 2:57 pm

AI is heavily dependent on the quality of the data it learns from; if the data is inaccurate or biased, the AI's outputs will also be flawed. This principle is often summarized as "Garbage In, Garbage Out," meaning that poor data leads to poor results.

I posted factual information while you're posting opinion under the guise of "artificial" intelligence...IE opinion...

IOW, is it "word"?

I just read where you dogged BV about “verifiable citations” 

where is your verifiable citation for when you said that you “ posted factual information”  ? 

should be easy to find 

Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm

I can always count on you and BV projecting.  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

and you reflecting.

Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 12:43 pm

Yur big on AI answers

Yur big on being a lying **** stain. SMDWYMA
 

Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm

I can always count on you and BV projecting.       

When they're not 69-ing each other!

Mrkelly » 11 Feb 2026, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 5:15 pm

  Forgetting that people can read again

I asked Rog “where was it reported that his gun went off”

you the idiot said   “ Your usual evasions, You deliberately disregard this part of his post“   

I then showed you both proof that “his gun did not go off”

then you the idiot said “ Good. Proof is all I asked for“   

like that isn’t THE SAME EXACT THING THAT I ASKED FOR   

then you the idiot made the above comment that “I was projecting “   

Thank you for your attention to this matter 

**** you queerly!

murdock » 13 Feb 2026, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2026, 5:44 pm

Yur big on being a lying **** stain. SMDWYMA
 

you're soliciting again.

Mrkelly » 13 Feb 2026, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2026, 3:55 pm

I just read where you dogged BV about “verifiable citations” 

where is your verifiable citation for when you said that you “ posted factual information”  ? 

should be easy to find

In Minnesota, the law requires individuals to attempt to retreat safely before using deadly force in self-defense, known as the "duty to retreat." This means that if you can safely escape a threatening situation, you must do so before resorting to force.

 usconcealedcarry.com tamburinolawgroup.com

Federal agencies like ICE, FBI, ATF, and DEA are primarily focused on specific enforcement areas and may not have the same level of training in crowd control as local police forces, which are specifically trained for such situations. This has raised concerns about their effectiveness and safety during operations in urban environments.

 Star Tribune NBC News

Federal law enforcement agencies, including ICE, FBI, ATF, and DEA, are trained to respond to threats with deadly force when necessary. Their policies emphasize the need for a reasonable belief of imminent danger, but the application of these policies can lead to public debate and scrutiny, especially in controversial incidents.

 BBC abcnews.com

'I believe it's highly likely the first shot was a negligent discharge from the agent in the grey jacket after he removed the Sig P320 from Pretti's holster while exiting the scene,' Rob Dobar, a lawyer for the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, wrote on X. 

The P320 is widely carried by Americans and US law enforcement, including Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, the New York Post reported.There are also more than 100 complaints that the model is defective and can fire 'uncommanded'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... order.html

you decide...
 

Vegas » 11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm

I can always count on you and BV projecting.  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

And you don't? ha ha ha ha what character are you in reality of humanity is larger than life daily here? Define your typecast social order by race, creed, color, national origin, gender, etc.

Mrkelly » 06 Feb 2026, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2026, 5:07 pm

  Another self serving “look at me thread “ ?

ALL of us have said “Lock up the criminals “ 

But you hide behind your “ICE is going after pedos” talking point   

LOCK THEM UP 

But you leave out the important bit 

YOU want to use that lame *** slogan like you have a point 

like arresting a 5 year old, and his dad when he got home from work is the same thing

Like Ignoring DACA is the same thing 

like dragging American citizens out of their car because they are documenting goons in masks and unmarked cars is the same thing

like shooting a preacher in the head repeatedly in the head with a pepper ball is the same thing 

on and **** on

YOU support a police state … we get it 

**** off

You support an anarchist state.....you **** off first.

Your lies don't make an impression on me, other than confirming you're a hysterical moron.

ROG62 » 14 Feb 2026, 8:25 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2026, 8:25 pm

In Minnesota, the law requires individuals to attempt to retreat safely before using deadly force in self-defense, known as the "duty to retreat." This means that if you can safely escape a threatening situation, you must do so before resorting to force.

 usconcealedcarry.com tamburinolawgroup.com

Federal agencies like ICE, FBI, ATF, and DEA are primarily focused on specific enforcement areas and may not have the same level of training in crowd control as local police forces, which are specifically trained for such situations. This has raised concerns about their effectiveness and safety during operations in urban environments.

 Star Tribune NBC News

Federal law enforcement agencies, including ICE, FBI, ATF, and DEA, are trained to respond to threats with deadly force when necessary. Their policies emphasize the need for a reasonable belief of imminent danger, but the application of these policies can lead to public debate and scrutiny, especially in controversial incidents.

 BBC abcnews.com

'I believe it's highly likely the first shot was a negligent discharge from the agent in the grey jacket after he removed the Sig P320 from Pretti's holster while exiting the scene,' Rob Dobar, a lawyer for the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, wrote on X. 

The P320 is widely carried by Americans and US law enforcement, including Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, the New York Post reported.There are also more than 100 complaints that the model is defective and can fire 'uncommanded'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... order.html

you decide...

  A tweet from the gun lobby  “ (that said that “he believed “) is now factual information “ to you ? 

with all the videos released… this is the best you have to defend the murder of an unarmed American with his hands on the ground ? 

shot 10 times in the back 

pitiful Rog … just **** pitiful