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By Johnny You
15 Feb 2026 12:00 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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RebelGator » 09 Mar 2026, 5:54 pm » wrote: To make it harder for Democrats like you to cheat.

Your total rigged ballots in 2020 was around 14 million.

You are god damned phooking MAGA liar. And you know it.
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 1:00 pm » wrote: So the regulations will make it harder for EVERYONE to vote..

It will probably knock more MAGAts out of the polls than sane Americans who value their ability to go to cast a ballot.

The stupid of MAGA  is astounding.
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Blackvegetable » 15 Feb 2026, 2:27 pm » wrote: It's a cost/benefit (and constitutional) thing.

you know...."regulatory burden, blah...blah"
#blahblahblah

what’s “unconstitutional” about it?


 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:18 pm » wrote: I have to have a SSN to pay taxes.  It sure as hell should serve as a Voter ID number.

Political Apathy in the USA is terrible..  

Maintaining voter roles is difficult.  People move and register in other states.  They don't actively request they be removed from their registration in the state they left.  

As I understand it , the voter ID issue is of less concern to dems than some of the other aspects of the SAVE act..   I just heard this this am and don't have the context as to what and why.. Maybe it authorizes armed goonstapo at the polls?? I am not sure.

I think immigrants need to be counted and classified as such in the census.  If a state has more of them, they desrve the representatives to work with the issues.  As far as I know, no one with a green card  votes..  They do work hard and pay taxes, with zero benefit to them, no health care, no food stamps..   The whole damn immigration thing is extremely complex. The heavy handed approach we are on will not yield a positive outcome in my opinion.

Who Noems what the hell Kriste and Corey got cookin' in their kitchen books?  Presvious Presidents followed the law and did better at lower cost per deportee.

Deportation and removal statistics vary based on whether they include formal removals (court-ordered), voluntary returns, or border expulsions (such as Title 42). Based on historical data from the  no spam  and analysis from organizations like the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) and the Migration Policy Institute, the following trends exist: 
  • Barack Obama (2009–2017): Often referred to as the "deporter-in-chief" by immigrant advocates, the Obama administration holds the record for the highest number of formal removals, with over 3 million removals over eight years. The peak was in fiscal year 2012, with over 400,000 removals.
  • Donald Trump (First Term, 2017–2021): Recorded fewer total formal removals than the Obama administration, with approximately 1.2 million removals during his first term.
  • Joe Biden (2021–2025): The Biden administration saw a high number of removals and returns, with nearly 1.1 million deportations between early 2021 and February 2024, on pace to match or exceed the first-term figures of the Trump administration. Additionally, over 3 million expulsions occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order.
  • Donald Trump (Second Term, 2025–Present): As of early 2026, the administration has reported hundreds of thousands of removals, with DHS claiming over 600,000 deportations in the first year. 
Key Takeaways
  • Obama focused heavily on deporting those with criminal records and recent border crossers, peaking around 400,000+ per year.
  • Trump's first term had a lower total than Obama due in part to a shift in enforcement priorities and legal challenges.
  • Biden utilized a mix of formal removals and Title 42 expulsions, resulting in high overall repatriation numbers.
  • Comparing Eras: When including both removals and voluntary returns, the Clinton administration had the highest total volume of departures (approx. 12.3 million) due to high numbers of individuals returned at the border. 
There are approximately 531 million unique Social Security numbers in circulation, with many potentially being used for identity fraud. Audits have revealed that thousands of these numbers may be associated with fraudulent activities.Image New York PostImage Social Security Administration
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Feb 2026, 3:50 pm » wrote: WASHINGTON—In pursuit of its mission to safeguard American citizens from the harmful effects of mass migration, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) has found that 39 million Americans have potentially had their Social Security numbers stolen by illegal aliens pursuing work in the country during the Obama administration.
There are approximately 531 million unique Social Security numbers in circulation, with many potentially being used for identity fraud. Audits have revealed that thousands of these numbers may be associated with fraudulent activities.Image New York PostImage Social Security Administration
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Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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ROG62 » Today, 5:52 am » wrote: There are approximately 531 million unique Social Security numbers in circulation, with many potentially being used for identity fraud. Audits have revealed that thousands of these numbers may be associated with fraudulent activities.Image New York PostImage Social Security Administration
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I never understood why a SSN isn't blackballed after confirmation of death, never to be used again.
 
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ROG62 » Today, 5:44 am » wrote: There are approximately 531 million unique Social Security numbers in circulation, with many potentially being used for identity fraud. Audits have revealed that thousands of these numbers may be associated with fraudulent activities.Image New York PostImage Social Security Administration
People do die.  There SSN's don't  There are only 330 Million Americans total.

I guess Elon's Big Balls turned 200 Million of them into Social Security Vampires.

"Many" How Many?   "Potentially" You can fall and break your neck at any moment.


 
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Fuelman » 8 minutes ago » wrote: I never understood why a SSN isn't blackballed after confirmation of death, never to be used again.
They are.

Social Security Numbers (SSNs) are not retired and reused; they are issued for life and permanently retired upon a person's death. The Social Security Administration (.gov) does not reassign numbers from deceased individuals to new applicants, and there are enough unique combinations to last for several more generations. 

Permanent Inactivation: When a person dies, their SSN is marked as inactive in Social Security Administration (.gov) records to prevent fraudulent use.
No Reassignment: The SSA has explicitly stated they do not reuse SSNs.
Exception - Identity Theft: In rare, extreme cases of identity theft or safety risks, an individual may be issued a new, different SSN, at which point the old one is effectively retired. 
 
Reasons for Fraud Vulnerability
  • Information Availability: Thieves can find personal information like full names, dates of birth, and even mother's maiden names in obituaries or other online sources, which helps them acquire or guess the deceased person's SSN.
  • Delayed Reporting: While funeral directors often report a death to the Social Security Administration (SSA), a delay can occur, leaving the SSN active in some systems for a period. Family members can help prevent this by reporting the death to the SSA and the major credit bureaus promptly.
  • Trust and Distraction: Fraudsters prey on the emotional vulnerability of grieving families, who may be less likely to notice suspicious activity or may inadvertently provide personal information to a scammer impersonating an official. 
 Common Types of Fraud
Once a fraudster obtains a deceased person's SSN and other personal details, they can commit several types of fraud: 
  • Credit Fraud: Criminals open new credit card accounts, obtain loans, or apply for cell phone services in the deceased's name.
  • Tax Fraud: Thieves file false tax returns early in the tax season to claim fraudulent refunds before the family files the legitimate final return.
  • Government Benefits Fraud: Fraudsters may attempt to apply for or continue receiving government benefits, such as Social Security payments, that the deceased person was no longer eligible for.
  • Employment Fraud: A deceased person's SSN may be used by an unauthorized individual to work illegally. 
By taking advantage of these vulnerabilities, fraudsters can cause significant financial and emotional distress for surviving family members, even though the family members are generally not responsible for the debts incurred
 
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JohnnyYou » 13 minutes ago » wrote: People do die.  Their SSN's don't  There are only 330 Million Americans total.

I guess Elon's Big Balls turned 200 Million of them into Social Security Vampires.

"Many" How Many?   "Potentially" You can fall and break your neck at any moment.

We run out of 9 digit combos at a billion SSN's
I am all for this "SAVE" act and I believe the best way forward is all US citizens get an implant or chip device.

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*Roshambo » 8 minutes ago » wrote: I am all for this "SAVE" act and I believe the best way forward is all US citizens get an implant or chip device.

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Surveillance State..   It's gettin' bad man.  We got fingerprints and retinas already.  People do cut eyeballs out and put them up to the scanners in the movies.

@MR-7  would probably show up with a bag of  eyeballs when he votes. When they ask him what's in the bag he'll say "Ben Wa?"

 
 
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Malikx » 15 Feb 2026, 1:59 pm » wrote: I see how Black voter suppression still shapes our politics today. From closed polling places to confusing ID rules, these barriers keep many voices from being heard. It’s not just history—it’s happening now, and it fuels the deep divisions we see in our country.

Where are polls closed? And, if so, why are they closed?

Please link something that's confusing about ID.


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*Roshambo » Today, 7:50 am » wrote: They are.

Social Security Numbers (SSNs) are not retired and reused; they are issued for life and permanently retired upon a person's death. The Social Security Administration (.gov) does not reassign numbers from deceased individuals to new applicants, and there are enough unique combinations to last for several more generations. 

Permanent Inactivation: When a person dies, their SSN is marked as inactive in Social Security Administration (.gov) records to prevent fraudulent use.
No Reassignment: The SSA has explicitly stated they do not reuse SSNs.
Exception - Identity Theft: In rare, extreme cases of identity theft or safety risks, an individual may be issued a new, different SSN, at which point the old one is effectively retired. 
 
Reasons for Fraud Vulnerability
  • Information Availability: Thieves can find personal information like full names, dates of birth, and even mother's maiden names in obituaries or other online sources, which helps them acquire or guess the deceased person's SSN.
  • Delayed Reporting: While funeral directors often report a death to the Social Security Administration (SSA), a delay can occur, leaving the SSN active in some systems for a period. Family members can help prevent this by reporting the death to the SSA and the major credit bureaus promptly.
  • Trust and Distraction: Fraudsters prey on the emotional vulnerability of grieving families, who may be less likely to notice suspicious activity or may inadvertently provide personal information to a scammer impersonating an official. 
 Common Types of Fraud
Once a fraudster obtains a deceased person's SSN and other personal details, they can commit several types of fraud: 
  • Credit Fraud: Criminals open new credit card accounts, obtain loans, or apply for cell phone services in the deceased's name.
  • Tax Fraud: Thieves file false tax returns early in the tax season to claim fraudulent refunds before the family files the legitimate final return.
  • Government Benefits Fraud: Fraudsters may attempt to apply for or continue receiving government benefits, such as Social Security payments, that the deceased person was no longer eligible for.
  • Employment Fraud: A deceased person's SSN may be used by an unauthorized individual to work illegally. 
By taking advantage of these vulnerabilities, fraudsters can cause significant financial and emotional distress for surviving family members, even though the family members are generally not responsible for the debts incurred
Sounds like the reporting system could use an update. Maybe AI has a place in finding these discrepancies?

Database Inconsistencies: Reports have shown millions of records for individuals over age 100 with no death date recorded, allowing potential misuse. Criminal Defense LawyersCriminal Defense Lawyers +4
 
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DeezerShoove » 30 minutes ago » wrote: Where are polls closed? And, if so, why are they closed?

Please link something that's confusing about ID.

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Deep divisions in this country are fueled by people allowing themselves to be led around by agenda-driven assholes.
Isn't the Voter Fraud Hoax an "agenda"?
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DeezerShoove » 35 minutes ago » wrote: Where are polls closed? And, if so, why are they closed?

Please link something that's confusing about ID.

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Trump administration opens investigation into Arizona’s 2020 election results
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Blackvegetable » 8 minutes ago » wrote: Trump administration opens investigation into Arizona’s 2020 election results

Not a very good try.
"Results" would indicate that votes had been cast.
Also, those pesky ID's were apparently not in the way...

My two points remain unaddressed. Are you supporting another of your failed soks or something?
Please seat yourself.

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Fuelman » Today, 7:44 am » wrote: I never understood why a SSN isn't blackballed after confirmation of death, never to be used again.
Agreed…but you know the gubment…color no one surprised…
 
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Fuelman » 25 minutes ago » wrote: Sounds like the reporting system could use an update. Maybe AI has a place in finding these discrepancies?

Database Inconsistencies: Reports have shown millions of records for individuals over age 100 with no death date recorded, allowing potential misuse. Criminal Defense LawyersCriminal Defense Lawyers +4
Integration of all agencies and databases is vital then a federal issued ID for all US citizens…
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Blackvegetable » 23 minutes ago » wrote: Trump administration opens investigation into Arizona’s 2020 election results
The FBI via grand jury indictment has confiscated voting records from the 2020 and 2024 elections…
 
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DeezerShoove » 29 minutes ago » wrote: Not a very good try.
"Results" would indicate that votes had been cast.
Also, those pesky ID's were apparently not in the way...

My two points remain unaddressed. Are you supporting another of your failed soks or something?
So it's not "agenda driven" because they are looking for evidence to support the agen...

I mean, Voter Fraud Hoax...

 
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