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Fuelman » 15 Feb 2026, 3:05 pm » wrote: The numbers don't make much sense to me Jonny.

Only 63% of eligible voters voted in 2024.
It appears to me more eligible voters disenfranchised themselves by not voting than this legislation by a very wide margin.

Check out this info:

Voter Turnout in Presidential Elections | The American Presidency Project share.google/bGwyqSF8SXG1beGm2

I consider being a fully documented citizen of these great states to be a privilege!
I have to have a SSN to pay taxes.  It sure as hell should serve as a Voter ID number.

Political Apathy in the USA is terrible..  

Maintaining voter roles is difficult.  People move and register in other states.  They don't actively request they be removed from their registration in the state they left.  

As I understand it , the voter ID issue is of less concern to dems than some of the other aspects of the SAVE act..   I just heard this this am and don't have the context as to what and why.. Maybe it authorizes armed goonstapo at the polls?? I am not sure.

I think immigrants need to be counted and classified as such in the census.  If a state has more of them, they desrve the representatives to work with the issues.  As far as I know, no one with a green card  votes..  They do work hard and pay taxes, with zero benefit to them, no health care, no food stamps..   The whole damn immigration thing is extremely complex. The heavy handed approach we are on will not yield a positive outcome in my opinion.

Who Noems what the hell Kriste and Corey got cookin' in their kitchen books?  Presvious Presidents followed the law and did better at lower cost per deportee.

Deportation and removal statistics vary based on whether they include formal removals (court-ordered), voluntary returns, or border expulsions (such as Title 42). Based on historical data from the  no spam  and analysis from organizations like the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) and the Migration Policy Institute, the following trends exist: 
  • Barack Obama (2009–2017): Often referred to as the "deporter-in-chief" by immigrant advocates, the Obama administration holds the record for the highest number of formal removals, with over 3 million removals over eight years. The peak was in fiscal year 2012, with over 400,000 removals.
  • Donald Trump (First Term, 2017–2021): Recorded fewer total formal removals than the Obama administration, with approximately 1.2 million removals during his first term.
  • Joe Biden (2021–2025): The Biden administration saw a high number of removals and returns, with nearly 1.1 million deportations between early 2021 and February 2024, on pace to match or exceed the first-term figures of the Trump administration. Additionally, over 3 million expulsions occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order.
  • Donald Trump (Second Term, 2025–Present): As of early 2026, the administration has reported hundreds of thousands of removals, with DHS claiming over 600,000 deportations in the first year. 
Key Takeaways
  • Obama focused heavily on deporting those with criminal records and recent border crossers, peaking around 400,000+ per year.
  • Trump's first term had a lower total than Obama due in part to a shift in enforcement priorities and legal challenges.
  • Biden utilized a mix of formal removals and Title 42 expulsions, resulting in high overall repatriation numbers.
  • Comparing Eras: When including both removals and voluntary returns, the Clinton administration had the highest total volume of departures (approx. 12.3 million) due to high numbers of individuals returned at the border. 
 
 
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Blackvegetable » 15 Feb 2026, 1:11 pm » wrote: Are you ever going to come up with a reason for it?
Here, ****, I'll give you a REASON FOR IT!!

TO KEEP YOUR LOSER DHIMOCRAPS FROM CHEATING AS YOU HAVE BEEN SINCE VOTING BEGAN AS A POLITICAL PARTY FOR YOUR SIDE!!

How's that for a REASON!! Great one that YOU HATE, but over 84% of ALL AMERICANS support!! And that is going to be a LOSER for your side and one that the CHEATING ALLEGATION is going to be one you can't defend any longer!!

Hell, I'll bet you even think that 84% support for VOTER ID is a "threat to Democracy", huh??

 
 
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Beekeeper » 15 Feb 2026, 3:30 pm » wrote: Here, ****, I'll give you a REASON FOR IT!!


 
Too many caps..
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:18 pm » wrote: I have to have a SSN to pay taxes.  It sure as hell should serve as a Voter ID number.
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Do some Illegal Aliens have bogus  SSNs.....https://www.irli.org/39-million-irli-in ... llegal-al/

Poor Johnny already knows this but he is a totally dishonest piece of **** who does his best to use this forum to promote lies and false narrative.
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:18 pm » wrote: I have to have a SSN to pay taxes.  It sure as hell should serve as a Voter ID number.

Political Apathy in the USA is terrible..  

Maintaining voter roles is difficult.  People move and register in other states.  They don't actively request they be removed from their registration in the state they left.  

As I understand it , the voter ID issue is of less concern to dems than some of the other aspects of the SAVE act..   I just heard this this am and don't have the context as to what and why.. Maybe it authorizes armed goonstapo at the polls?? I am not sure.

I think immigrants need to be counted and classified as such in the census.  If a state has more of them, they desrve the representatives to work with the issues.  As far as I know, no one with a green card  votes..  They do work hard and pay taxes, with zero benefit to them, no health care, no food stamps..   The whole damn immigration thing is extremely complex. The heavy handed approach we are on will not yield a positive outcome in my opinion.

Who Noems what the hell Kriste and Corey got cookin' in their kitchen books?  Presvious Presidents followed the law and did better at lower cost per deportee.

Deportation and removal statistics vary based on whether they include formal removals (court-ordered), voluntary returns, or border expulsions (such as Title 42). Based on historical data from the  no spam  and analysis from organizations like the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) and the Migration Policy Institute, the following trends exist: 
  • Barack Obama (2009–2017): Often referred to as the "deporter-in-chief" by immigrant advocates, the Obama administration holds the record for the highest number of formal removals, with over 3 million removals over eight years. The peak was in fiscal year 2012, with over 400,000 removals.
  • Donald Trump (First Term, 2017–2021): Recorded fewer total formal removals than the Obama administration, with approximately 1.2 million removals during his first term.
  • Joe Biden (2021–2025): The Biden administration saw a high number of removals and returns, with nearly 1.1 million deportations between early 2021 and February 2024, on pace to match or exceed the first-term figures of the Trump administration. Additionally, over 3 million expulsions occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order.
  • Donald Trump (Second Term, 2025–Present): As of early 2026, the administration has reported hundreds of thousands of removals, with DHS claiming over 600,000 deportations in the first year. 
Key Takeaways
  • Obama focused heavily on deporting those with criminal records and recent border crossers, peaking around 400,000+ per year.
  • Trump's first term had a lower total than Obama due in part to a shift in enforcement priorities and legal challenges.
  • Biden utilized a mix of formal removals and Title 42 expulsions, resulting in high overall repatriation numbers.
  • Comparing Eras: When including both removals and voluntary returns, the Clinton administration had the highest total volume of departures (approx. 12.3 million) due to high numbers of individuals returned at the border. 
Those participation rates send a pretty large message, 37% really don't give a crap about politics or what you and I think. I'm willing to bet that those who can't prove citizenship are in that category so I kind of see this as NBFD!
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:18 pm » wrote: I have to have a SSN to pay taxes.  It sure as hell should serve as a Voter ID number.

Political Apathy in the USA is terrible..  

Maintaining voter roles is difficult.  People move and register in other states.  They don't actively request they be removed from their registration in the state they left.  

As I understand it , the voter ID issue is of less concern to dems than some of the other aspects of the SAVE act..   I just heard this this am and don't have the context as to what and why.. Maybe it authorizes armed goonstapo at the polls?? I am not sure.

I think immigrants need to be counted and classified as such in the census.  If a state has more of them, they desrve the representatives to work with the issues.  As far as I know, no one with a green card  votes..  They do work hard and pay taxes, with zero benefit to them, no health care, no food stamps..   The whole damn immigration thing is extremely complex. The heavy handed approach we are on will not yield a positive outcome in my opinion.

Who Noems what the hell Kriste and Corey got cookin' in their kitchen books?  Presvious Presidents followed the law and did better at lower cost per deportee.

Deportation and removal statistics vary based on whether they include formal removals (court-ordered), voluntary returns, or border expulsions (such as Title 42). Based on historical data from the  no spam  and analysis from organizations like the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) and the Migration Policy Institute, the following trends exist: 
  • Barack Obama (2009–2017): Often referred to as the "deporter-in-chief" by immigrant advocates, the Obama administration holds the record for the highest number of formal removals, with over 3 million removals over eight years. The peak was in fiscal year 2012, with over 400,000 removals.
  • Donald Trump (First Term, 2017–2021): Recorded fewer total formal removals than the Obama administration, with approximately 1.2 million removals during his first term.
  • Joe Biden (2021–2025): The Biden administration saw a high number of removals and returns, with nearly 1.1 million deportations between early 2021 and February 2024, on pace to match or exceed the first-term figures of the Trump administration. Additionally, over 3 million expulsions occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order.
  • Donald Trump (Second Term, 2025–Present): As of early 2026, the administration has reported hundreds of thousands of removals, with DHS claiming over 600,000 deportations in the first year. 
Key Takeaways
  • Obama focused heavily on deporting those with criminal records and recent border crossers, peaking around 400,000+ per year.
  • Trump's first term had a lower total than Obama due in part to a shift in enforcement priorities and legal challenges.
  • Biden utilized a mix of formal removals and Title 42 expulsions, resulting in high overall repatriation numbers.
  • Comparing Eras: When including both removals and voluntary returns, the Clinton administration had the highest total volume of departures (approx. 12.3 million) due to high numbers of individuals returned at the border. 
The Obama Admin counted 1000s of instant "turn arounds" at the border as deportations..... as a deceptive tactic to make it appear as though they were  against flooding the USA with millions of future Democrat Voters.
 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Feb 2026, 3:42 pm » wrote: Do some Illegal Aliens have bogus  SSNs..... irli /39-million-irli-investigation-reveals-massive-identity-fraud-by-illegal-al/

Poor Johnny already knows this but he is a totally dishonest piece of **** who does his best to use this forum to promote lies and false narrative.
Maybe a handful?   How many?  enough to change an election outcome? I seriously doubt it.

More dead people voted for Trump than Harris.  I dont think the total count was over 100 for the nation.

More fraudulent voter poll workers favored Trump..  Some got busted for jacking with the votes.  I think it was like a total of two votes that were impacted, so again, nothing that would ahve impacted the outcome.

Y'all searching and **** searching for something to prove he won 2020.. I heard the Fulton County siezure with Tulsi Gabbard recently is coming up empty. It's been 6 years.  You have found small handfuls of erratta in the data.. With 180 million of them the number will never be zero..  But you  need millions of fraudulent votes.. Rudy isn't selling cigars anymore.
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:49 pm » wrote: Maybe a handful?   How many?  enough to change an election outcome? I seriously doubt it.

More dead people voted for Trump than Harris.  I dont think the total count was over 100 for the nation.

More fraudulent voter poll workers favored Trump..  Some got busted for jacking with the votes.  I think it was like a total of two votes that were impacted, so again, nothing that would ahve impacted the outcome.

Y'all searching and **** searching for something to prove he won 2020.. I heard the Fulton County siezure with Tulsi Gabbard recently is coming up empty. It's been 6 years.  You have found small handfuls of erratta in the data.. With 180 million of them the number will never be zero..  But you  need millions of fraudulent votes.. Rudy isn't selling cigars anymore.

WASHINGTON—In pursuit of its mission to safeguard American citizens from the harmful effects of mass migration, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) has found that 39 million Americans have potentially had their Social Security numbers stolen by illegal aliens pursuing work in the country during the Obama administration.
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Feb 2026, 3:48 pm » wrote: The Obama Admin counted 1000s of instant "turn arounds" at the border as deportations..... as a deceptive tactic to make it appear as though they were  against flooding the USA with millions of future Democrat Voters.
Where are all the unattended minor immigrant children?  I heard Steven Miller has sold 60,000 child sex slaves...   We payed to FedSex them to El Salvador.
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:18 pm » wrote: I have to have a SSN to pay taxes.  It sure as hell should serve as a Voter ID number.

Political Apathy in the USA is terrible..  

Maintaining voter roles is difficult.  People move and register in other states.  They don't actively request they be removed from their registration in the state they left.  

As I understand it , the voter ID issue is of less concern to dems than some of the other aspects of the SAVE act..   I just heard this this am and don't have the context as to what and why.. Maybe it authorizes armed goonstapo at the polls?? I am not sure.

I think immigrants need to be counted and classified as such in the census.  If a state has more of them, they desrve the representatives to work with the issues.  As far as I know, no one with a green card  votes..  They do work hard and pay taxes, with zero benefit to them, no health care, no food stamps..   The whole damn immigration thing is extremely complex. The heavy handed approach we are on will not yield a positive outcome in my opinion.

Who Noems what the hell Kriste and Corey got cookin' in their kitchen books?  Presvious Presidents followed the law and did better at lower cost per deportee.

Deportation and removal statistics vary based on whether they include formal removals (court-ordered), voluntary returns, or border expulsions (such as Title 42). Based on historical data from the  no spam  and analysis from organizations like the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) and the Migration Policy Institute, the following trends exist: 
  • Barack Obama (2009–2017): Often referred to as the "deporter-in-chief" by immigrant advocates, the Obama administration holds the record for the highest number of formal removals, with over 3 million removals over eight years. The peak was in fiscal year 2012, with over 400,000 removals.
  • Donald Trump (First Term, 2017–2021): Recorded fewer total formal removals than the Obama administration, with approximately 1.2 million removals during his first term.
  • Joe Biden (2021–2025): The Biden administration saw a high number of removals and returns, with nearly 1.1 million deportations between early 2021 and February 2024, on pace to match or exceed the first-term figures of the Trump administration. Additionally, over 3 million expulsions occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order.
  • Donald Trump (Second Term, 2025–Present): As of early 2026, the administration has reported hundreds of thousands of removals, with DHS claiming over 600,000 deportations in the first year. 
Key TakeawaysObama focused heavily on deporting those with criminal records and recent border crossers, peaking around 400,000+ per year.
  • Trump's first term had a lower total than Obama due in part to a shift in enforcement priorities and legal challenges.
  • Biden utilized a mix of formal removals and Title 42 expulsions, resulting in high overall repatriation numbers.
  • Comparing Eras: When including both removals and voluntary returns, the Clinton administration had the highest total volume of departures (approx. 12.3 million) due to high numbers of individuals returned at the border. 
Available reporting does not produce a single, authoritative tally of all “fake” Social Security numbers in U.S. systems; rather, investigators and historians point to specific episodes and sample-based findings — notably a fraud review that flagged 221,427 unissued SSNs on pandemic relief applications...

https://factually.co/fact-checks/societ ... ist-789abb

you're a quantum computer tech guy....

https://rumble.com/v6u1nwh-fractal-capa ... c_v1_upp_a
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:52 pm » wrote: Where are all the unattended minor immigrant children?  I heard Steven Miller has sold 60,000 child sex slaves...   We payed to FedSex them to El Salvador.
Just sit back and watch as Trump's ICE systematically answers all of these questions for you.

ICE BABY ....ICE...!!!   :rofl:  
 
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Fuelman » 15 Feb 2026, 3:44 pm » wrote: Those participation rates send a pretty large message, 37% really don't give a crap about politics or what you and I think. I'm willing to bet that those who can't prove citizenship are in that category so I kind of see this as NBFD!
I believe you're wrong here...the 37% are all the blacks that have been "disenfranchised" because there's not a polling center on every street corner in America, they are just so poor, they can't secure a ride or they don't have a valid identification even tho they qualify for section 8 housing, full SNAP benefits and any reparations coming down the pike... :ninja:  
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 3:49 pm » wrote: Maybe a handful?   How many?  enough to change an election outcome? I seriously doubt it.

More dead people voted for Trump than Harris.  I dont think the total count was over 100 for the nation.

More fraudulent voter poll workers favored Trump..  Some got busted for jacking with the votes.  I think it was like a total of two votes that were impacted, so again, nothing that would ahve impacted the outcome.

Y'all searching and **** searching for something to prove he won 2020.. I heard the Fulton County siezure with Tulsi Gabbard recently is coming up empty. It's been 6 years.  You have found small handfuls of erratta in the data.. With 180 million of them the number will never be zero..  But you  need millions of fraudulent votes.. Rudy isn't selling cigars anymore.
^^^ specious at best....
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ROG62 » 15 Feb 2026, 4:00 pm » wrote: I believe you're wrong here...the 37% are all the blacks that have been "disenfranchised" because there's not a polling center on every street corner in America, they are just so poor, they can't secure a ride or they don't have a valid identification even tho they qualify for section 8 housing, full SNAP benefits and any reparations coming down the pike... Image
When you don't have a rational explanation it's easier to just yell "Jim Crow 2.0"!
 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Feb 2026, 3:56 pm » wrote: Just sit back and watch as Trump's ICE systematically answers all of these questions for you.

ICE BABY ....ICE...!!!   Image
They're shutdown man...

The woman ( I believe a citizen) they bragged about putting 7 holes in with 5 bullets is going to get rich.. She survived.    

The ICE agents involved have been caught in lies to federal courts, a felony..  I heard they tried like hell to deport the witnesses, but as they were material witnesses to the crime, they remained here..  Once the jack asses learned they couldn't deport the issue, the tune has changed and the two agents are facing corrective action and justice now...   DHS made  a statement recently.

ICE Barbies crap is liquid and is gonna get flushed down the drain...  She is in an affair with Corey Lewandoski (both still married to othr people), and he has been a contractor (not a federal employee) to oversee the spending and contract administration... Man.. I smell stink *** corruption in that bytch.

WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN?   There are claims they have "rescued" 60K... Where are they?  I would be taking claim for the rescues if I had in fact saved 60,000 kids...   I would be showing the care our country provides to them.  If we reunited them with parents at home or whatever.. They're just phucking gone and there are indications planeloads of them have been flown out of the country.  There are some judicial rescue stories of judges making sure kids didn't get fedsexed to Hell in El SLAVEador.

 
 
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There, i FIFY seeing how anything TRUTHFUL is way the **** over your g'damn head!!

Now, RUN!!

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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Feb 2026, 3:56 pm » wrote: Just sit back and watch as Trump's ICE systematically answers all of these questions for you.

ICE BABY ....ICE...!!!   Image

ICE is doing Pritty Good!!

More like it will stop the LWNJ insanity. Or not seeing how they really are insane.

 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Feb 2026, 3:50 pm » wrote: WASHINGTON—In pursuit of its mission to safeguard American citizens from the harmful effects of mass migration, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) has found that 39 million Americans have potentially had their Social Security numbers stolen by illegal aliens pursuing work in the country during the Obama administration.
Why no link?
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Beekeeper » 15 Feb 2026, 6:08 pm » wrote: I'm a flaming pansy!


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