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Fuelman » 34 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

34 minutes ago

That's the ridiculous part, it's not a bill. Just a notice that the nitrile gloves were not covered.

  is it deemed more as a hint? we’re not really asking, but don’t you feel guilty it’s not paid? do they add the cost of each mailing to the total? Good grief…
 

ROG62 » Today, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:50 am

seriously? why are you getting the bills?

a couple I know in TX where he died of pancreatic cancer…she received an unpaid bill of 50+k…she stated he was dead…and never heard from them again…

My dad passed away in a nursing home ($8,000/month) in March of 2023 and is still getting a huge pharmaceutical bill from a private company that we never used.  I got his most expensive drug (pradaxa) from a Canadian pharmacy.  The night before he died (he had a stroke) the nursing home sent him to the hospital ER right across the street by ambulance.  Their bill was $2000.00 and was not covered by Medicare.  
 

Buffalo » Today, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:06 am

My dad passed away in a nursing home ($8,000/month) in March of 2023 and is still getting a huge pharmaceutical bill from a private company that we never used.  I got his most expensive drug (pradaxa) from a Canadian pharmacy.  The night before he died (he had a stroke) the nursing home sent him to the hospital ER right across the street by ambulance.  Their bill was $2000.00 and was not covered by Medicare.

sad story…

I assume the ambulance was a liability thing…but to what cost is charging 2k justified?
 

Fuelman » Yesterday, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:12 am

That's the ridiculous part, it's not a bill. Just a notice that the nitrile gloves were not covered.

How did the SAVE Act thread get derailed to Save Our Souls?

You're born you're dead.  I just don't think a massive conehhead quantity of illegal votes are out there as claimed.  My grandson has had an SSN within a month of birth.  That should be enough ID to vote.

The phooks have had five years to prove the 2020 election was stolen.  Obama Care is still there 10 years after.  Now the MAGA shyt has us in a global war and protecting pedophilia and the Epstien Class.  

JohnnyYou » Today, 1:07 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:07 am

How did the SAVE Act thread get derailed to Save Our Souls?

You're born you're dead.  I just don't think a massive conehhead quantity of illegal votes are out there as claimed.  My grandson has had an SSN within a month of birth.  That should be enough ID to vote.

The phooks have had five years to prove the 2020 election was stolen.  Obama Care is still there 10 years after.  Now the MAGA shyt has us in a global war and protecting pedophilia and the Epstien Class.

Surely your grandson received a birth certificate within 24-48 hours of being born. That is the main document most people use to prove citizenship.

Can you give us your common sense version of why dead people should stay on the voter rolls?

I find it amusing Schumer and Jeffries think the 75% of the Democrats that support voter ID are idiots and stupid.

 

Fuelman » 25 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

25 minutes ago

Surely your grandson received a birth certificate within 24-48 hours of being born. That is the main document most people use to prove citizenship.

Can you give us your common sense version of why dead people should stay on the voter rolls?

I find it amusing Schumer and Jeffries think the 75% of the Democrats that support voter ID are idiots and stupid.

LOL..  I am succumbing to geriactricism., I think I know what to do.  35% Penalty is on.  I  am considering getting the SSB's while they still exist.

I created an acount but there is no way to prove online in the modern era that my SSN is actually alive and kicking without going to the SS Office. The dumb azzes just gave me a pretty god tax return.

There was something about the post office could do it.  Bro is in hospice with us at home, he is our two man lift duty, I am tethered to the house.  An hour and half to go to town is hard to find right now. All I wanted was my benefits statement today to start considering the option. I guess it's safe to talk about here because Pedro won't be able to steal my identity.  Maybe the in person thing isn;t so bad for everyone, and just an incovenience for me at the moment.

Bureaucratic hoops.  Trump is not reducing them..  That costs money.  Someone physically has to staff the office that is prbably 100 miles away from people in rural areas..  They wont have enough gas money to get their retirement.

It really doesn't matter. The reset is coming and money will be useless.  LIQT ain't around.. He must be scramblng through his hedges in hi anxiety.. Elon done shyt his bed bad.
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 8:59 am

LOL..  I am succumbing to geriactricism., I think I know what to do.  35% Penalty is on.  I  am considering getting the SSB's while they still exist.

I created an acount but there is no way to prove online in the modern era that my SSN is actually alive and kicking without going to the SS Office. The dumb azzes just gave me a pretty god tax return.

There was something about the post office could do it.  Bro is in hospice with us at home, he is our two man lift duty, I am tethered to the house.  An hour and half to go to town is hard to find right now. All I wanted was my benefits statement today to start considering the option. I guess it's safe to talk about here because Pedro won't be able to steal my identity.  Maybe the in person thing isn;t so bad for everyone, and just an incovenience for me at the moment.

Bureaucratic hoops.  Trump is not reducing them..  That costs money.  Someone physically has to staff the office that is prbably 100 miles away from people in rural areas..  They wont have enough gas money to get their retirement.

It really doesn't matter. The reset is coming and money will be useless.  LIQT ain't around.. He must be scramblng through his hedges in hi anxiety.. Elon done shyt his bed bad.

The max early SS retirement penalty is 30% at age 62.
It is a little more difficult to log into SS these days but definitely seems more secure. Took me a couple of times to get it done with the SS App on phone. Selfie and picture of drivers license. I already knew what the number was approximately as I checked it since I was 50. 

Personally, I would take it as soon as possible. I have little faith in politicians fixing this train wreck.

I totally get the burden of caring for a family member. Mom turns 86 in June, perfect health, no medications, just a mind going to mush. We pretended there was an emergency and she needed to call me. She couldn't do it. Yes, I definitely limit the time I'm gone from the house.

Politics aside, Family comes first!
 

Fuelman » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

7 minutes ago

The max early SS retirement penalty is 30% at age 62.
It is a little more difficult to log into SS these days but definitely seems more secure. Took me a couple of times to get it done with the SS App on phone. Selfie and picture of drivers license. I already knew what the number was approximately as I checked it since I was 50. 

Personally, I would take it as soon as possible. I have little faith in politicians fixing this train wreck.

I totally get the burden of caring for a family member. Mom turns 86 in June, perfect health, no medications, just a mind going to mush. We pretended there was an emergency and she needed to call me. She couldn't do it. Yes, I definitely limit the time I'm gone from the house.

Politics aside, Family comes first!

Thanks F Man...

Yeah, it does make sense.  If they shut SS down I hope they give us a lump sum.  I was not a super whimp at making money but I could have produced more tax revenue and not enjoyed so much dining out.

Man, if they had allowed Cannabis in my Bloodstream I might have gotten on the Submarine back in the day.  The drug tests hampered my ability to be a high payer into the kitty my entire career.  I was capable, they just feared that Nancy Regan would haunt them I guess.

I sure hope THC doesn't ruin young peoples futures. It's a shame it was all about locking up young black males in prisons for profit. I could fly a Space Shuttle stoned as Snoop Dog.
 
 

Fuelman » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

The max early SS retirement penalty is 30% at age 62.
It is a little more difficult to log into SS these days but definitely seems more secure. Took me a couple of times to get it done with the SS App on phone. Selfie and picture of drivers license. I already knew what the number was approximately as I checked it since I was 50. 

Personally, I would take it as soon as possible. I have little faith in politicians fixing this train wreck.

I totally get the burden of caring for a family member. Mom turns 86 in June, perfect health, no medications, just a mind going to mush. We pretended there was an emergency and she needed to call me. She couldn't do it. Yes, I definitely limit the time I'm gone from the house.

Politics aside, Family comes first!

The math says take the money at 62…the break even point for me was 83 if I would have waited the 4yrs 4 months to get full benefits…

besides, making it to 83 is a stretch for anyone, much less, longer…
 
 

JohnnyYou » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

Thanks F Man...

Yeah, it does make sense.  If they shut SS down I hope they give us a lump sum.  I was not a super whimp at making money but I could have produced more tax revenue and not enjoyed so much dining out.

Man, if they had allowed Cannabis in my Bloodstream I might have gotten on the Submarine back in the day.  The drug tests hampered my ability to be a high payer into the kitty my entire career.  I was capable, they just feared that Nancy Regan would haunt them I guess.

I sure hope THC doesn't ruin young peoples futures. It's a shame it was all about locking up young black males in prisons for profit. I could fly a Space Shuttle stoned as Snoop Dog.

Just do the math…
 

ROG62 » 23 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

23 minutes ago

The math says take the money at 62…the break even point for me was 83 if I would have waited the 4yrs 4 months to get full benefits…

besides, making it to 83 is a stretch for anyone, much less, longer…

I agree. It is unfortunate that a lot of people just don't have the choice financially to take it early.

Never been a fan of the income cap while getting SS. Total ****!


 

JohnnyYou » Today, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:03 am

Thanks F Man...

Yeah, it does make sense.  If they shut SS down I hope they give us a lump sum.  I was not a super whimp at making money but I could have produced more tax revenue and not enjoyed so much dining out.

Man, if they had allowed Cannabis in my Bloodstream I might have gotten on the Submarine back in the day.  The drug tests hampered my ability to be a high payer into the kitty my entire career.  I was capable, they just feared that Nancy Regan would haunt them I guess.

I sure hope THC doesn't ruin young peoples futures. It's a shame it was all about locking up young black males in prisons for profit. I could fly a Space Shuttle stoned as Snoop Dog.

  Johnny, I graduated from Stoner High at semester break with a 3.7 GPA. Took the ASVAB and scored 97%. They wanted me to be a Navy ET/NUC. Then I found out what the pay was. $6k a year. That didn't really fit my vision. Ended up in Alaska in 1980 and made $18k my first year, working the slime line on floating fish processors no less. I didn't get to see the world but I've been places 99.99% of the population will never see.    Was about as close to the Wild West as could be back then.

Could have been the wrong choice but it's possible those submarine jokes were true?     

I was a little surprised when SS did their final adjustments, my average 35 year wage ended up being $43k which gave me a little better than average SS benefit at 62. The wife has always made more money and her benefit will only be 3-400 dollars more a month.

You did your part, it's time to collect!
 

Fuelman » Today, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:26 am

I agree. It is unfortunate that a lot of people just don't have the choice financially to take it early.

Never been a fan of the income cap while getting SS. Total ****!

Thanks for acting to help SAVE me..You to @ROG62  .. I consider it an ACT of kindness.

How much can I make a year and not lose benefit? Ahh the income cap..
It's designed to get us out of the way for the next wave of money makers F..
It would be in my interest to help the youngsters make money and pay for my welfare with strong wages and thus high tax revenues.

But then it all goes to shyt when AI makes everything.

Lots to learn.  

 
 

JohnnyYou » 59 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

59 minutes ago

Thanks for acting to help SAVE me..You to @ROG62  .. I consider it an ACT of kindness.

How much can I make a year and not lose benefit? Ahh the income cap..
It's designed to get us out of the way for the next wave of money makers F..
It would be in my interest to help the youngsters make money and pay for my welfare with strong wages and thus high tax revenues.

But then it all goes to shyt when AI makes everything.

Lots to learn.

These are the limits for 2026:

In 2026, Social Security income limits (earnings test) for working beneficiaries under full retirement age (FRA) increase to $24,480/year ($1 for every $2 deducted over limit). If reaching FRA in 2026, the limit is $65,160 for months prior to FRA. The maximum taxable earnings cap rises to $184,500

At/After FRA: No income limits; benefits are not reduced regardless of earnings.

SS and Medicare sneaks up on you. The survey's say about 75% of people approaching those ages don't know what they need to know.
 

No Assholes Barred

JohnnyYou » Today, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:12 am

Thanks for acting to help SAVE me..You to @ROG62  .. I consider it an ACT of kindness.

How much can I make a year and not lose benefit? Ahh the income cap..
It's designed to get us out of the way for the next wave of money makers F..
It would be in my interest to help the youngsters make money and pay for my welfare with strong wages and thus high tax revenues.

But then it all goes to shyt when AI makes everything.

Lots to learn.

It’s all about the numbers…I did it by what made sense…the break even point made no sense to me…

If you work, make damn sure you stay under the CAP…it’s simply not worth it…

another thing is to figure out your tax bracket maximizing your take home but have them deduct it…and remember, they don’t take State tax if where you live taxes SSI…adjust accordingly…
 

Fuelman » Yesterday, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:26 am

I agree. It is unfortunate that a lot of people just don't have the choice financially to take it early.

Never been a fan of the income cap while getting SS. Total ****!

Agreed to both…

if I remember correctly, the monthly difference was moot…south of $200…
 

JohnnyYou » Yesterday, 1:07 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 1:07 am

How did the SAVE Act thread get derailed to Save Our Souls?

You're born you're dead.  I just don't think a massive conehhead quantity of illegal votes are out there as claimed.  My grandson has had an SSN within a month of birth.  That should be enough ID to vote.

The phooks have had five years to prove the 2020 election was stolen.  Obama Care is still there 10 years after.  Now the MAGA shyt has us in a global war and protecting pedophilia and the Epstien Class.

Your entire family should be tested before being allowed to vote. 

RebelGator » Today, 6:03 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:03 am

Your entire family should be tested before being allowed to vote.

For what? Liberalism?  

MAGA fails just about every test they take. Jerome Pow Pow Powell walked away faster than Kyle Rittenhouse. Trump's case didn't even pass into the trial phase. His weaponization of the DOJ is like a squirt gun filled with syrup.
 
 

JohnnyYou » 15 Feb 2026, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2026, 1:00 pm

So the regulations will make it harder for EVERYONE to vote..

It will probably knock more MAGAts out of the polls than sane Americans who value their ability to go to cast a ballot.

The stupid of MAGA  is astounding.

If by "EVERYONE" you mean all the FOREIGN ILLEGALS, Gang Bangers and TERRORISTS ?

THEN YEA...

EVERYONE !!!

84% of AMERICA (Republicans AND Democrats Included) DEMAND IT !!