The 14% Canard...

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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 9:16 am » wrote: Last I checked 14% of 400,000 is 56,000. 

My math is fine.
What's the TOTAL of "Convicted Criminal"?
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 9:18 am » wrote: What's the TOTAL of "Convicted Criminal"?

 

You are  reframing.  You don't seem to understand where the 14% MSM talking point came from.
 
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ROG62 » 16 Feb 2026, 11:14 am » wrote: Another Ploy by the Left to Protect Alien Criminals...

Leftists believe they have cornered President Donald Trump on the issue of deportations by debunking his claim that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has targeted the “worst of the worst” criminal aliens. They are cherry-picking data from an internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) document obtained by CBS News, indicating that just 14% of the roughly 400,000 arrests by ICE since Trump returned to the White House are for “violent criminal offenses.” This has unleashed voices on the left who accuse the president and his administration of lying about the real intent of the now-concluded Operation Metro Surge in Minneapolis and related efforts to round up illegal aliens.

It did not take long for DHS Spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin to put that 14% number in perspective. She said in a statement that at least eight categories of heinous crimes committed by illegal aliens targeted for arrest and deportation are not included in the 14%, saying: “Drug trafficking, Distribution of child pornography, burglary, fraud, DUI, embezzlement, solicitation of a minor, human smuggling are all categorized as ‘nonviolent crimes.’”

The DHS document cited by CBS News shows that ICE arrested over 22,000 individuals with charges or convictions involving dangerous drugs, 6,100 with weapons offenses on their records, and some 30,000 charged with or convicted of driving while intoxicated. Another 5,000 arrestees had burglary charges or convictions, and 118,000 more had criminal charges or convictions for “other” crimes. Add that to the 56,000 “violent” criminals, and that brings to 237,000 the total number of individuals arrested by ICE for crimes that the overwhelming majority of Americans would consider ripe for deportation.

 That is almost 60% of ICE arrests, a far cry from the 14% number being bandied about on the left.

 https://www.libertynation.com/the-14-ca ... 2026-02-15

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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 9:30 am » wrote: You are  reframing.  You don't seem to understand where the 14% MSM talking point came from.

answer first, THEN explain why it is "reframing".
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 9:31 am » wrote: @Blackvegetable  

I think YOU may have to tell us what the OP Is about.
I have addressed both the premise and data.

You have yet to tell me what you think it is about.
 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 9:47 am » wrote: answer first, THEN explain why it is "reframing".

 
LMAO!  You kidder you.

From the OP:

The DHS document cited by CBS News shows that ICE arrested over 22,000 individuals with charges or convictions involving dangerous drugs, 6,100 with weapons offenses on their records, and some 30,000 charged with or convicted of driving while intoxicated. Another 5,000 arrestees had burglary charges or convictions, and 118,000 more had criminal charges or convictions for “other” crimes. Add that to the 56,000 “violent” criminals, and that brings to 237,000 the total number of individuals arrested by ICE for crimes that the overwhelming majority of Americans would consider ripe for deportation.
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 9:49 am » wrote: I have addressed both the premise and data.

You have yet to tell me what you think it is about.
 

 
I am not obliged to tell you anything. 
 
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 9:51 am » wrote: I am not obliged to tell you anything.
How do we distinguish your standing on such a principle from Running?
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 9:58 am » wrote: How do we distinguish your standing on such a principle from Running?

 
I am not running.  I am trying to discuss the topic.
 
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 10:05 am » wrote: I am not running.  I am trying to discuss the topic.
But you repeatedly decline to tell me what you think it is...
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 9:50 am » wrote: LMAO!  You kidder you.

From the OP:

The DHS document cited by CBS News shows that ICE arrested over 22,000 individuals with charges or convictions involving dangerous drugs, 6,100 with weapons offenses on their records, and some 30,000 charged with or convicted of driving while intoxicated. Another 5,000 arrestees had burglary charges or convictions, and 118,000 more had criminal charges or convictions for “other” crimes. Add that to the 56,000 “violent” criminals, and that brings to 237,000 the total number of individuals arrested by ICE for crimes that the overwhelming majority of Americans would consider ripe for deportation.
This is how invincibly stupid you are..

The ENTIRE POINT is that DHS is reframing by redefining "violent criminals" and "worst of the worst".

They are doing so in order to justify filling their quotas with random illegal immigrants - whose mere presence here does not make them violent criminals, or even "bad".

Only meeting their quotas will justify continuing their funding at current obscene levels.

Nod, Rube.
 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 10:13 am » wrote: This is how invincibly stupid you are..

The ENTIRE POINT is that DHS is reframing by redefining "violent criminals" and "worst of the worst".

They are doing so in order to justify filling their quotas with random illegal immigrants - whose mere presence here does not make them violent criminals, or even "bad".

Only meeting their quotas will justify continuing their funding at current obscene levels.

Nod, Rube.
 

 
They are not redefining.  Only 14% are defined as violent criminals, moron.  
 
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 10:23 am » wrote: They are not redefining.  Only 14% are defined as violent criminals, moron.
One more time....

According to their own data, how many "convicted criminals" had DHS processed as of Nov. 25, 2025?
 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 10:27 am » wrote: One more time....

According to their own data, how many "convicted criminals" had DHS processed as of Nov. 25, 2025?
 

 
Do you know why I don't give a ****?  Because the OP is discussing those who are convicted OR charged.  I posted that for a little bit ago.  
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 10:32 am » wrote: Do you know why I don't give a ****?  

I didn't ask.

I asked you to stipulate to an objective fact.


 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Mar 2026, 10:40 am » wrote: I didn't ask.

I asked you to stipulate to an objective fact.


 

 
Do you know why I don't give a ****?  Because the OP is discussing those who are convicted OR charged.  I posted that for a little bit ago.  

Your objective fact is a diversion from this:

The DHS document cited by CBS News shows that ICE arrested over 22,000 individuals with charges or convictions involving dangerous drugs, 6,100 with weapons offenses on their records, and some 30,000 charged with or convicted of driving while intoxicated. Another 5,000 arrestees had burglary charges or convictions, and 118,000 more had criminal charges or convictions for “other” crimes. Add that to the 56,000 “violent” criminals, and that brings to 237,000 the total number of individuals arrested by ICE for crimes that the overwhelming majority of Americans would consider ripe for deportation.


 
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 10:43 am » wrote: Do you know why I don't give a ****?  
I don't give a ****.
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Thanks for admitting you don't give a **** about the OP, Snow Bunny.  That's rich considering you demanded I explain it to you.

Do you know why I don't give a ****?  Because the OP is discussing those who are convicted OR charged.  I posted that for you a little bit ago.  

Your objective fact is a diversion from this:

The DHS document cited by CBS News shows that ICE arrested over 22,000 individuals with charges or convictions involving dangerous drugs, 6,100 with weapons offenses on their records, and some 30,000 charged with or convicted of driving while intoxicated. Another 5,000 arrestees had burglary charges or convictions, and 118,000 more had criminal charges or convictions for “other” crimes. Add that to the 56,000 “violent” criminals, and that brings to 237,000 the total number of individuals arrested by ICE for crimes that the overwhelming majority of Americans would consider ripe for deportation.
 
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Huey » 06 Mar 2026, 11:32 am » wrote: Thanks for admitting you don't give a ****

we're gonna need a rule on "giving ****"...
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 06 Mar 2026, 7:53 am » wrote: "We are mainly deporting just the criminals" was bad marketing strategy to try selling to the effeminately raised Snowflakes....
Right from the get go  the best policy would have been to make it clear that they are all criminals and that they all will be deported.
They have repeatedly stated that…but they went for the justification…like adding honey to raindrops…
 
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