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BREAKING: Irans Air Force, Navy & Leadership is destroyed.. SOME IRGC type called Trump & wanted to talk... Trump Said:
BREAKING: Irans Air Force, Navy & Leadership is destroyed.. SOME IRGC type called Trump & wanted to talk... Trump Said:
By ConservativeWave
3 Mar 2026 4:38 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
17 Mar 2026 3:34 pm
Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't follow. Do you see my reports of America's isolation and humiliation as a bad thing or something?
I don't follow. Are you talking about the 25th Amendment?
1. Laced with sarcasm.
I'm unafraid if USA let someone else show the modern world how to be "top dog". Russkis can't do it.
China is at least as **** corrupt in the heart as we are.
Good luck with the choices.
2. 25th being invoked on someone after letting Biden set the bar?
IMO Trump would have to do something crazy first.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
17 Mar 2026 3:52 pm
He is not a ******, like youMR-7 » 17 Mar 2026, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑ He survived the strike that killed his father, mother, wife, and possibly other family members. This alone could explain extreme security measures.
Mojtaba Khamenei has not appeared in public even once since becoming Supreme Leader.
All evidence points to
zero live appearances
only written or read‑aloud statements
tight control over his visibility
ongoing uncertainty about his health and location.
This is no different than the Autopen Regime under Biden.
**** is too much of a COWARD to make the announcement in person to the people of IRAN, or he is dead.
yeah you 
--->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.
Yer…. Entertaining and I make you
. Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.
Beekeeper » Who is Eugene Stoner??
--->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.Yer…. Entertaining and I make you
. Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.Beekeeper » Who is Eugene Stoner??
17 Mar 2026 3:58 pm
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
17 Mar 2026 3:59 pm
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yeah you --->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.
Yer…. Entertaining and I make you . Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.
Beekeeper » Who is Eugene Stoner??
--->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.Yer…. Entertaining and I make you
. Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.Beekeeper » Who is Eugene Stoner??
17 Mar 2026 5:30 pm
1. There can be a balance of power - a multi-polar world. I don't live in the ideasphere wherein there has to be a super bully **** in everyone's face, so let's hurry and be that guy.DeezerShoove » 17 Mar 2026, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. Laced with sarcasm.
I'm unafraid if USA let someone else show the modern world how to be "top dog". Russkis can't do it.
China is at least as **** corrupt in the heart as we are.
Good luck with the choices.
2. 25th being invoked on someone after letting Biden set the bar?
IMO Trump would have to do something crazy first.
2. Biden was a piker. This orange *** has shut down the skraight of somethin or other.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Mar 2026 5:47 pm
Who was the "super bully" that put the **** face as murdock's avatar?Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. There can be a balance of power - a multi-polar world. I don't live in the ideasphere wherein there has to be a super bully **** in everyone's face, so let's hurry and be that guy.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
17 Mar 2026 7:09 pm
Only a girl would see petty power abuse as "sewper-bullying."MR-7 » 17 Mar 2026, 5:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Who was the "super bully" that put the **** face as murdock's avatar?
Tho gay, tho gay...
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Mar 2026 8:12 pm
Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. There can be a balance of power - a multi-polar world. I don't live in the ideasphere wherein there has to be a super bully **** in everyone's face, so let's hurry and be that guy.
2. Biden was a piker. This orange *** has shut down the skraight of somethin or other.
Biden was, and is, a worsening, moist dish rag.
He was not harmless (or blameless), just being used when he was supposed to be the boss.
...
Also, agreed that a balance of power would be nice. Detente was a wonderful thing.
I don't see that happening same as with the Russkis. Yer Chinee haint tha same cat...
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
17 Mar 2026 8:25 pm
We have friendly neighbors north and south, oceans east and west. We have an enormous land mass with barely investigated resources. We have the world's only blue water navy. We have the ability to project global power.DeezerShoove » 17 Mar 2026, 8:12 pm » wrote: ↑ Biden was, and is, a worsening, moist dish rag.
He was not harmless (or blameless), just being used when he was supposed to be the boss.
...
Also, agreed that a balance of power would be nice. Detente was a wonderful thing.
I don't see that happening same as with the Russkis. Yer Chinee haint tha same cat...
A nation that can project power globally, on DEFENSE? Nothing could ever touch us.
What we don't have, and will never have so long as people hold the values that you are expressing, is our republic. We are subjects of an empire, meant to be citizens of a republic.
And EVERY EMPIRE COLLAPSES. But not every republic is lost in the collapse. It just depends on how ya fold the circus tents down. Right now, we are inviting the rest of the world to help us fold down the tents. They won't be gentle. It won't be pretty. And they don't want to help. They want stability. They hate the very idea of warring with us. That's why we ALWAYS HAVE TO GO TO THEM. They never come to us.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Mar 2026 8:45 pm
Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 8:25 pm » wrote: ↑ We have friendly neighbors north and south, oceans east and west. We have an enormous land mass with barely investigated resources. We have the world's only blue water navy. We have the ability to project global power.
A nation that can project power globally, on DEFENSE? Nothing could ever touch us.
What we don't have, and will never have so long as people hold the values that you are expressing, is our republic. We are subjects of an empire, meant to be citizens of a republic.
And EVERY EMPIRE COLLAPSES. But not every republic is lost in the collapse. It just depends on how ya fold the circus tents down. Right now, we are inviting the rest of the world to help us fold down the tents. They won't be gentle. It won't be pretty. And they don't want to help. They want stability. They hate the very idea of warring with us. That's why we ALWAYS HAVE TO GO TO THEM. They never come to us.
World Police job may finally cease. That would be nice.
My gut tells me our military probably advised against this whole shootin' match.
That little bird singing What Were You Thinking?! probably doesn't exist for Trump.
I wonder what our subs are doing. Hopefully nothing.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
17 Mar 2026 8:55 pm
Again, we have utterly and drastically opposing views of how the world really works.DeezerShoove » 17 Mar 2026, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑ World Police job may finally cease. That would be nice.
We are not the police. We are the robbers.
And what aggravates this disconnect is that you - you, in your own words this very day - made reference to the "we need/want their ****" excuse for making war on sovereign states and peoples. You also defended jackbootery with the argument that if we're not stepping on their necks, they'll be stepping on ours - a SECOND example this very day of you framing our action as other than the neocon canard of our "being the world police." I do not understand how your brain has the space for those utterances, and toleration of the "world police" narrative. I've heard of a game called cops and robbers, but our country being both cops and robbers is no game.
I know what our aircraft carriers are doing. The Frod and the Lincoln are limping away from combat, injured.
And I know what the western press is doing. Covering that up. But the rest of the world knows. And those of us who source from non-western journalists know. We don't know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But we know what our own press is covering up. And what they are covering up is that Iran got to the lincoln and the ford, caused death and failure, forced retreat.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Mar 2026 9:02 pm
This **** didn't age well, retard.ConservativeWave » 03 Mar 2026, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑ BREAKING: Irans Air Force, Navy & Leadership is destroyed.. SOME IRGC type called Trump & wanted to talk... Trump Said:
The straight of hormuz is closed, and we cannot open it. IF YOUR HEADLINE WERE TRUE, THE ABOVE STATEMENT WOULD BE FALSE.
The USS Lincoln and the USS Ford have both sustained damage from Iranian hostile action. Sailors have died. More WILL die, according to trump. IF YOUR HEADLINE WERE TRUE, THE ABOVE STATEMENT WOULD BE FALSE.
The entire world - even our closest allies/most servile vassals - has refused to assist in the straight of hormuz. Trump has asked for help. WHY? IF YOUR HEADLINE WERE TRUE, THE ABOVE STATEMENT WOULD BE FALSE.
The oil is stacking up at the straight of hormuz, with suppliers and their customers desperately hoping they can go their own way and get Iran to allow their passage. This is one of the many reasons countries are refusing to help Trump: They don't want to piss off Iran. IF YOUR HEADLINE WERE TRUE, THE ABOVE STATEMENT WOULD BE FALSE.
You are a goo faced neocon warmongering piece of **** with no core values, fruitcake. Don't take that the wrong way. It's said with love.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Mar 2026 9:22 pm
Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑ Again, we have utterly and drastically opposing views of how the world really works.
We are not the police. We are the robbers.
And what aggravates this disconnect is that you - you, in your own words this very day - made reference to the "we need/want their ****" excuse for making war on sovereign states and peoples. You also defended jackbootery with the argument that if we're not stepping on their necks, they'll be stepping on ours - a SECOND example this very day of you framing our action as other than the neocon canard of our "being the world police." I do not understand how your brain has the space for those utterances, and toleration of the "world police" narrative. I've heard of a game called cops and robbers, but our country being both cops and robbers is no game.
I know what our aircraft carriers are doing. Limping away from combat, injured.
And I know what the western press is doing. Covering that up. But the rest of the world knows. And those of us who source from non-western journalists know. We don't know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But we know what our own press is covering up. And what they are covering up is that Iran got to the lincoln and the ford, caused death and failure, forced retreat.
I'm not saying that for any reason but sarcasm. We should have stayed the **** out of a lot of **** in my lifetime (just as you referenced your lifetime). Always at odds with somebody else. Always.
We're both sick of it, remember?
You are taking my pointed remarks as support of "policy" or whatever it might be called.
I'm sorry if you're being serious while I'm not. Not really anyway.
That's our only disconnect.
There may have been a time in my life many years ago (maybe oil shortage "crisis") as a youngster that I thought we use up theirs first then we'll be sitting pretty. In other words, I knew even then that we have lots of resources. The oil shortage was merely geo-political theater.
Just as I know NIMBY plays a big part in US domestic policy. Keep America beautiful while strip mining elsewhere.
I read someplace it takes 29 years to get approvals to open a new mine in the US. That is some real red tape. We **** ourselves all the time.
Because we've had access to places elsewhere so long we've taken so much for granted.
I'm actually starting to get interested in the Iran **** a little bit. I wonder what Iran used to gimp our carriers.
Was it Russian or Chinese technology? Those little brown guys are only good for speed boats, I think.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
17 Mar 2026 10:29 pm
Probsbly drone flood.DeezerShoove » 17 Mar 2026, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm not saying that for any reason but sarcasm. We should have stayed the **** out of a lot of **** in my lifetime (just as you referenced your lifetime). Always at odds with somebody else. Always.
We're both sick of it, remember?
You are taking my pointed remarks as support of "policy" or whatever it might be called.
I'm sorry if you're being serious while I'm not. Not really anyway.
That's our only disconnect.
There may have been a time in my life many years ago (maybe oil shortage "crisis") as a youngster that I thought we use up theirs first then we'll be sitting pretty. In other words, I knew even then that we have lots of resources. The oil shortage was merely geo-political theater.
Just as I know NIMBY plays a big part in US domestic policy. Keep America beautiful while strip mining elsewhere.
I read someplace it takes 29 years to get approvals to open a new mine in the US. That is some real red tape. We **** ourselves all the time.
Because we've had access to places elsewhere so long we've taken so much for granted.
I'm actually starting to get interested in the Iran **** a little bit. I wonder what Iran used to gimp our carriers.
Was it Russian or Chinese technology? Those little brown guys are only good for speed boats, I think.
There's a new weapon that is very cheap - a dollar per "bullet" - that the US is allegedly developing. It uses lasers. And it can supposdely put up a star trek style shield against anything incoming. I saw a video about it - I'll try to find it.
Clearly, it's not on line yet, because the ford and thre lincoln got **** up and sent packing by a nation that we were told by a fat orange fraudster/chomo had no military and no government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRuqjqOikus
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
18 Mar 2026 6:56 am
Nope, I love target shooting
18 Mar 2026 8:39 am
Wings off a fly at 900 yards..
I searched your posts.. at best you are a "sheet rock" general contractor.
Additional research shows.. "fellatio"
yeah you --->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.
Yer…. Entertaining and I make you . Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.
Beekeeper » Who is Eugene Stoner??
--->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.Yer…. Entertaining and I make you
. Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.Beekeeper » Who is Eugene Stoner??
18 Mar 2026 8:46 am
Inexpensive Drone Interceptors.. 500 Mile range 400 km/hr bullet drones..*Roshambo » 18 Mar 2026, 8:39 am » wrote: ↑ Wings off a fly at 900 yards..
I searched your posts.. at best you are a "sheet rock" general contractor.
Additional research shows.. "fellatio"
I hear Ukraine is implementing....
If it misses.. try try again.. Maybe for one or two hours.
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It's not gonna be just guns and ammo in WW3 Rosh, there is a lot of assymetric tech coming to fruition. I knew a guy who said it was better in the 1960's
WW4 will be fought with Sticks and Stones.
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
Bump Caps Recommended..
Bump Caps Recommended..
18 Mar 2026 8:47 am
This proves your point…DeezerShoove » 14 Mar 2026, 11:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Islam ain't so good either.
Is it Jews they hate or Israel + America? Big difference.
Iran may have been a good tooth but how is it Iranians even cheered from afar? Must've went bad.
If you moved to a better country to escape America's evil,
would you be cheering for whatever country blew us up?
What evil would have America have had to do to me to make me cheer its destruction from afar?
^^^That's just me attempting to see their side of this ****.
If and when America fails completely, whatever takes top honors then will be wrong too.
History shows that again and again. Lonely at the top.
btw
Benny Franklin said "A republic, ma'am... if you can keep it."
An educated public would go a long way toward bettering our country but that battle has been lost.
The "protest du jour" culture is peopled with stupid ****.
End of rant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaKsxSNWMk0
JuCo 5 percenter...72
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18 Mar 2026 8:58 am
I don’t believe people are celebrating the destruction of their homeland, just the oppressive regime…Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2026, 12:44 am » wrote: ↑ I don't watch teevee, so I'm taking your word that some people from iran have exhibited stockholm syndrome. Or whatever impels them to cheer the destruction of their mother country. I never said they were not being "genuine", any more than the expats from America would be being "genuine." I'm telling you they are not RELEVANT. They are NOISE - not signal.
I'm not lumping you. I'm deciphering you. It SEEMED that you think some number of cheering iranians has some meaning that I should take note of. I'm assuring you that I disagree.
We are not isolated. We have more overseas bases than there are overseas nations. Makes ya pretty hard to isolate. But were ARE trending in that direction. Nations are scrambling to disentangle. We have bared our teeth, ceased to disguise our true ambitions.
I'm anti-war. There is no excuse for it. There is only propaganda for it.
The pretense that countries are begging for us to attack them is simply not credible. Iran has bent over backwards for decades, and still we invent reasons to attack them. Hell, Russia petitioned to join NATO. We said HELL no - we need an enemy.
When I say Iran has bent over backwards, I am not denying it has funded freedom fighters that oppose israel and the US. I'm not saying they have surrendered any and all strategic objectives or ceased to pursue those objectives. What I am saying is that they are a member state of the IAEA and have signed treaties allowing generous access to IAEA inspectors. TRUMP withdrew from that treaty - not Iran. And that fact, all by itself, utterly eviscerates the pretense that this war has ANYTHING to do with Iran not getting a nuclear weapon. WE HAD THAT. And we threw that in the bin, so that we could have this war.
If that cackling trollop were president, we would still have this war. It is in the nature of empire to expand or contract. Republics tend toward stability and peaceful relations.
You reference the propaganda on both sides and the confusion thereby generated. I certainly do not disagree. But I can assure you that I am not confused. I understand that we had every assurance against Iran getting nukes, and we said **** that - where's the excuse for war in THIS ****? I can also read a pattern. This country has not known a day of peace in my lifetime. We are the common denominator.
I recall my aunt railing against the Russians complaining they took everything while the Germans had nothing…
then the wall came down, and along with that, the mob, crime and uncertainty…
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
18 Mar 2026 9:21 am
The U.S. has a sordid history of foreign policy…DeezerShoove » 15 Mar 2026, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑ I won't get into a typing exercise about this but I always feel between our barbs that there's a genuine conversation sneaking in. Something I wish there was a lot more of here by the way.
If Iran was allowing generous access and allowing full disclosure about true intentions, I don't understand why Iran's "overly enriched" uranium is a factor in our relations with a third party (Russia). Seems like a Club Member ain't acting in good faith and Russia has pretty much validated that by demanding they get the stuff, not us.
Also, bending over backwards isn't what I say includes relabeling suicidal zealots as "freedom fighters". They seem like useful idiots every bit as much as we have here: Gubmints prey on people all the time. You say we do it here. I say they do it there. Tomato/tomahto.
Assuming (again) the news is true about a dumptruck full of enriched uranium (a biggie), silos full of I-hate-Israel-Missiles were in place, tunnels chock full of torpedo and mine-setter boats are now ready to clog the Strait, plus who-knows-what, Iran has a part to play in the propaganda war.
Were they **** with countries around them? Were there protests/demonstrations crushed by a chaotic Iranian government? Etc. etc. Lots of questions. There are a kajillion books written AFTER these global events because the truth in the midst of the fog is lost until some time has passed.
Credible sources probably exist and they will be stand outs, I'm sure. I can wait. Until then, I live in hope that my bad tooth metaphor is kinda close to the truth no matter how much you tell me it wasn't doing anything wrong.
I just don't trust any of the **** simply based "America is always wrong". That's not my go-to position. I'm as sick of another **** years-long war coming as anybody. At the same time, your position is that we need to take stuff (land, treasure, etc.) because we've lost our way and are going broke(r). There's certainly no shortage of ammo for that argument.
Remember the big WMD Iraq ****? That was called reasonable fear and credible evidence... blah, blah, blah. Saddam poisoned tons of his own citizens which only fueled the credibility of the rational response saber-rattlers. Lots of folks (including Iran) were happy to see that **** get his.
Then, magically, we found out he was lying and playing a shell game after the fact.
Instantly, America was wrong, a liar, imperialist, racist. blah, blah, blah...
The John Kerry position - "I was for it before I was against it" rings loudly even 22 years later . . . regarding Afghanistan but it's all the same ****.
People are no **** good. I am tired of war.
the fact that we have any interest in another country is to exploit their resources…apparently by any force necessary…
JuCo 5 percenter...72
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