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Vegas » 20 Mar 2026, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2026, 11:05 am

Disaster. 

There is only one lesson that America and Americans should take from this. Lesson: Israel is not our ally. They are why the US instigated this war. Trump will never admit his mistakes. Narcissists don't do that. So, we will need to wait until his term is up. However, in the meantime, I can just hope that Americans, as a whole, will vehemently protest our allegiance with Israel. Vance also wears his knee pads when he is in the presence of Israel. So he is useless. 

Initially, I was thinking how we can get the pro-Israeli lobbyists out of Washington. But then I thought ,"well why in the hell doesn't our duly democratic elected officials just tell them to **** off?" Why should we tell our leaders to do what's in the best interest of America? They should already be doing that.

For decades I have been in agreement with this post. ^

But I am beginning to have my doubts. 

I am beginning to suspect that we have been hornswoggled - that israel is a paid-off patsy: a vassal state that we hide our true motives behind. 

It's all just too **** pat. Oh, look - bibi did it again. Look at AIPAC. 

And don't get me wrong - israel is a genocidal monstrosity and AIPAC is a cancer. But so is the american MIC, and it profits FAR, FAR more than israel from trump's ****. We have to buy 200 billion worth of new weapons, AND the gulf states are all going to be clamoring to re-up on weapons, now that Iran bombed them. This little adventure is going to gross a trillion for the MIC, and all israel got out of it was bombed to ****.

Ordinarily, the very first investigation into a hoodunnit is to ask, who gained. But the optics are so powerful, we skipped that step and went right to blaming israel. What if israel is simply the perfect beard, and playing its role brilliantly?
 
 
 

jerrab » 20 Mar 2026, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2026, 2:07 pm

I am worried some US citizens wont be able to vote. the people are voicing their opinions and trump is paying attentionn and this little excursion with iran is the most hated thing yet. and trump knows he will be impeached if congress goes blue, he even said that.

   

How will this happen? No prog has made this clear.

So far, you're apparently wringing your hands while asking others to join in...
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 10:39 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2026, 10:39 pm

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Cannonpointer » 20 Mar 2026, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2026, 8:57 pm

Trump cannot punish the entire world, dummy. And the europeans have a duty to themselves and their citizens to do whatever is in the best interests of THEIR counties.

If Trump wanted a coalition, the time to build it was BEFORE the bombs dropped. You remember some years back we had the first openly gay republican president? Even THAT ******* understood this simple principle, and he gathered his coalition BEFORE commiting crimes against humanity in affie and iraq.

My mistake. It's your doppelganger who is looking at the floor, in a different thread.

Who said anything about "punishing the entire world", nitwit?  
Trump will punish the members of NATO who refused to take part in securing the Strait of Hormuz, most likely by reducing the funding percentage we pay for NATO WHICH HE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DO!  That organization protects EUROPE far more than the US, and if they refuse to help a member nation at war to keep the flow of oil unimpaired then they don't deserve the current level of support we provide to NATO, and it SHOULD be cut!  Nobody twisted their arm to join NATO.  They joined because THAT was in the best interests of their countries and they must either support other members when requested or drop the **** out!

Now, would you care to admit that you OPPOSE cutting the funding for NATO?

Cannonpointer » 20 Mar 2026, 9:08 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2026, 9:08 pm

For decades I have been in agreement with this post. ^

But I am beginning to have my doubts. 

I am beginning to suspect that we have been hornswoggled - that israel is a paid-off patsy: a vassal state that we hide our true motives behind. 

It's all just too **** pat. Oh, look - bibi did it again. Look at AIPAC. 

And don't get me wrong - israel is a genocidal monstrosity and AIPAC is a cancer. But so it the american MIC, and it profits FAR, FAR more than israel from trump's ****. We have to buy 200 billion worth of new weapons, AND the guld states are all going to be clamoring to re-up on weapons, now that Iran bombed them. This little adventure if going to gross a trillion for the MIC, and all israel got out of it was bombed to ****.

Ordinarily, the very first investigation into a hoodunnit is to ask, who gained. But the optics are so powerful, we skipped that step and went right to blaming israel. What is israel is simply the perfect beard, and playing its role brilliantly?

Israel will gain, if they are successful, at taking charge of Iran. The Jews have wanted the whole middle East since biblical times. The establishment of Israel was their foothold. They expanded that land by taking over Palestine. Iran puts them in a good geographical location since it sits in the most strategic access to the financially owning the rest of the Middle East. Not just the Strait of Hormuz, which we all have learned about its importance.

It controls access to the Arabian sea since its coastline is the Persian Gulf and...****. Some other Gulf that I can't recall. However, I do know that controlling those two Gulf areas controls access to a huge maritime portion of the Middle East, including Central Asia. In short, owning Iran means owning energy wealth and geographic access. Israel will be taking over the regime (provided that US/Israel wins the war). So, guess who will eventually own the whole Middle East with America's help?
 
 

Zeets2 » 21 Mar 2026, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2026, 9:57 am

Who said anything about "punishing the entire world", nitwit?

You did, stupid.

Zeets2 » 21 Mar 2026, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2026, 9:57 am

Trump will punish the members of NATO who refused to take part in securing the Strait of Hormuz,

And India forbuying from Russia. And China for buying from Russia. And Iran forclosing the straight. And Brazil for jailing a previous president. And Cuba for being Cuba. And anyone who is helping Cuba. And Russia for the war in Coupkraine.

He can't punish the entire world, you **** idiot. SOMEONE has to be on our side.

Zeets2 » 21 Mar 2026, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2026, 9:57 am

Now, would you care to admit that you OPPOSE cutting the funding for NATO?

I am already celebrating NATO's death, you **** idiot.

I have hens, so I get started early.

Vegas » 21 Mar 2026, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2026, 11:12 am

Israel will gain, if they are successful, at taking charge of Iran. The Jews have wanted the whole middle East since biblical times. The establishment of Israel was their foothold. They expanded that land by taking over Palestine. Iran puts them in a good geographical location since it sits in the most strategic access to the financially owning the rest of the Middle East. Not just the Strait of Hormuz, which we all have learned about its importance.

It controls access to the Arabian sea since its coastline is the Persian Gulf and...****. Some other Gulf that I can't recall. However, I do know that controlling those two Gulf areas controls access to a huge maritime portion of the Middle East, including Central Asia. In short, owning Iran means owning energy wealth and geographic access. Israel will be taking over the regime (provided that US/Israel wins the war). So, guess who will eventually own the whole Middle East with America's help?

Yeah, I don't think so. 

As in, I don't think israel wants to try to govern or murder off 90 million Persians. 
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Mar 2026, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2026, 8:15 pm

You did, stupid.

And India forbuying from Russia. And China for buying from Russia. And Iran forclosing the straight. And Brazil for jailing a previous president. And Cuba for being Cuba. And anyone who is helping Cuba. And Russia for the war in Coupkraine.

He can't punish the entire world, you **** idiot. SOMEONE has to be on our side.

I am already celebrating NATO's death, you **** idiot.

I have hens, so I get started early.

Show me where I EVER said that we should "punish the whole world", you lying asshole!
And if there are valid reasons for adjusting our economic policies to reflect the decisions made by other countries, then more power to Trump!  He's the only one who EVER used real economic tariffs and trade preferences to behave in our own best interests, and it's working out great!  When combined with our military might we've been able to bring totalitarian regimes like Iran and Venezuela to an end and the next domino to fall will be Cuba, for the betterment of their own people who are now suffering as badly as those suffered under Maduro and the Ayatollah, where their future will now be much brighter, and you can't stand that!

NATO ain't dead nor is it dying, fool!  Pay attention to what Trump does in the near future to severely cut the funding we provide for them, which is exactly what SHOULD be done!  That's the consequences of refusing to aid in our defense when we're being attacked as we've been by Iran.  At least until the next idiot Democrat gets elected and ends up reversing such policies, as I have no doubt will take place.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

Show me where I EVER said that we should "punish the whole world", you lying asshole!
And if there are valid reasons for adjusting our economic policies to reflect the decisions made by other countries, then more power to Trump!  He's the only one who EVER used real economic tariffs and trade preferences to behave in our own best interests, and it's working out great!  When combined with our military might we've been able to bring totalitarian regimes like Iran and Venezuela to an end and the next domino to fall will be Cuba, for the betterment of their own people who are now suffering as badly as those suffered under Maduro and the Ayatollah, where their future will now be much brighter, and you can't stand that!

NATO ain't dead nor is it dying, fool!  Pay attention to what Trump does in the near future to severely cut the funding we provide for them, which is exactly what SHOULD be done!  That's the consequences of refusing to aid in our defense when we're being attacked as we've been by Iran.  At least until the next idiot Democrat gets elected and ends up reversing such policies, as I have no doubt will take place.

NATO is going to have declare war on us..  Leaders all over the planet are saying Congress has had plenty of time to fire his dumb Mango MAGAmaniacal ***. But we continue down this path to toal planet suicide.  Iran has 4000 km range weapons demonstrated yesterday at Diego Garcia.. I do not call that a totally obliterated military.and they can reach Europe.

MAGA's foreign policy sucks.  It is isolating us as stupid as shyt,

 
 

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

Show me where I EVER said that we should "punish the whole world", you lying asshole!

Why would I do that?? Everyone intelligent can see that you did, and you will never see that you did.

Let it go, and have a good cry.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

And if there are valid reasons for adjusting our economic policies to reflect the decisions made by other countries, then more power to Trump!

Wow. That's actually a not-retarded attempt to reframe a twitchy, barney fife, reactonary orange diaper baby's fruitiness.

I mean, it never touched the net, but it got a piece of the glass before it went out of bounds. I'm impressed. Good over-reach.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

He's the only one who EVER used real economic tariffs and trade preferences to behave in our own best interests, and it's working out great!

The tariffs are a new tax on consumers, dummy.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

When combined with our military might we've been able to bring totalitarian regimes like Iran and Venezuela to an end and the next domino to fall will be Cuba, for the betterment of their own people who are now suffering as badly as those suffered under Maduro and the Ayatollah, where their future will now be much brighter, and you can't stand that!

You talk like a liberal queer. I put America fist, not other countries. I am MAGA. You are a maggot.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

NATO ain't dead nor is it dying, fool!  Pay attention to what Trump does in the near future to severely cut the funding we provide for them, which is exactly what SHOULD be done!  That's the consequences of refusing to aid in our defense when we're being attacked as we've been by Iran.  At least until the next idiot Democrat gets elected and ends up reversing such policies, as I have no doubt will take place.

Pretending that we were attacked by Iran is NAMBLA gay, You are a NAMBLA queer, son.
 

JohnnyYou » 22 Mar 2026, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:49 am

NATO is going to have declare war on us..  Leaders all over the planet are saying Congress has had plenty of time to fire his dumb Mango MAGAmaniacal ***. But we continue down this path to toal planet suicide.  Iran has 4000 km range weapons demonstrated yesterday at Diego Garcia.. I do not call that a totally obliterated military.and they can reach Europe.

MAGA's foreign policy sucks.  It is isolating us as stupid as shyt,

Yeah, I'm REALLY worried about NATO declaring war on the US!      
That's almost the dumbest thing you've EVER said, and there's a long list of your foolish statements.

Care to explain how Congress can "fire" Trump when Republicans control it and support Trump almost unanimously?

And you consider it a threat that Iran fired a couple of missiles at Diego Garcia, when one was shot down by the US and the other failed in flight?
Is that supposed to terrify our military?  What's the over/under on how long it will take the US or UK to destroy the missile sites that were used to target Diego Garcia?  I'd bet the under in less than three hours. 
How about you?
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2026, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:56 am

Why would I do that?? Everyone intelligent can see that you did, and you will never see that you did.

Let it go, and have a good cry.
 

Why would I cry when I'm over the moon with joy over how Trump is prosecuting this war?
You claim to support the US, but you can't help your stupid self from opposing the economic trade sanctions we've placed on countries that have put in policies that oppose our interests or aid our enemies.

Grow some testicles, sissyboi, and recognize the reality of the genius of Trump to use tactics never before put forth to reward our allies and punish those who are tacitly working against us!
 

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 10:12 am

Why would I cry when I'm over the moon with joy over how Trump is prosecuting this war?

It's not a war, dummy. Remember?

When your antagonists have to help you remember your lies, you're inbred, son.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

You claim to support the US,

LIAR! SHOW WHERE I MADE THAT CLAIM!

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

but you can't help your stupid self from opposing the economic trade sanctions we've placed on countries that have put in policies that oppose our interests or aid our enemies.

We pay those taxes, stupid. Not they. We.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 9:45 am

Grow some testicles, sissyboi, and recognize the reality of the genius of Trump to use tactics never before put forth to reward our allies and punish those who are tacitly working against us!

27 dimenstion cut-throat whist.

Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2026, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 10:20 am

It's not a war, dummy. Remember?

When your antagonists have to help you remember your lies, you're inbred, son.

LIAR! SHOW WHERE I MADE THAT CLAIM!

We pay those taxes, stupid. Not they. We.

27 dimenstion cut-throat whist.

WRONG, asshole!  Do you NOT know the definition of a war? 
Here, dimwit!  Read it for yourself!:

war /wôr/noun

1. A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties.
2. The period of such conflict.

Does this war with Iran not qualify, stupid?
Simply because this is not a DECLARED war, which only Congress can do, it doesn't mean that we are not at war, whether you like that definition or not!

And you made that claim with this statement RIGHT HERE, asshole!

 Cannonpointer Post 59 minutes ago
I put America fist, not other countries. I am MAGA.

Are you simply trying to show your support for Alzheimer's patients like Biden by forgetting statements you just made an hour ago or is that your own dementia oozing into your otherwise empty head?
Or did you REALLY mean you support America "fisting" your dumb ***, sissyboi?
You just keep exposing your own ***, don't you?

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 11:03 am

Does this war with Iran not qualify, stupid?
Simply because this is not a DECLARED war, which only Congress can do, it doesn't mean that we are not at war, whether you like that definition or not!


 

Be honest, fruitcake. You're lobbing. Right?

Is this Aunt Rosemary? 

Presidents cannot declare war, you **** idiot If the UNited States were at war, that would call for impeachment, retard.   
 

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 11:03 am

And you made that claim with this statement RIGHT HERE, asshole!
 

Bless your heart, fruity.           

Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2026, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 11:14 am

Be honest, fruitcake. You're lobbing. Right?

Is this Aunt Rosemary? 

Presidents cannot declare war, you **** idiot If the UNited States were at war, that would call for impeachment, retard. 

And when did I EVER say that this was a DECLARED war, nitwit?
Are you REALLY trying to make the claim that there are not at least half a dozen countries including the US that are not in a state of war as bombs and missiles are being fired at countries all throughout the Middle East?

Is English your second language, asshole?
Or would you simply choose to chastise the Cambridge Dictionary (or any other dictionary) for not agreeing with you about the definition of war?

Cambridge Dictionary

Meaning of war in English  
noun [ C or U ]
uk  /wɔːr/ us  /wɔːr/

armed fighting between two or more countries or groups, or a particular example of this:
nuclear war
a war film/grave/hero/poet

 

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 11:33 am

And when did I EVER say that this was a DECLARED war, nitwit?
Are you REALLY trying to make the claim that there are not at least half a dozen countries including the US that are not in a state of war as bombs and missiles are being fired at countries all throughout the Middle East?

Yes, retard. You could bowl me over with a feather that you consider this litte tiff a war. Presidents cannot start wars, you stewp. It's merely a dust up.

Zeets2 » 22 Mar 2026, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 11:33 am

Is English your second language, asshole?
Or would you simply choose to chastise the Cambridge Dictionary (or any other dictionary) for not agreeing with you about the definition of war?

No, hypocrisy is my second language. It's your FIRST, so you have an advantage.

I'm just trying to preserve YOUR narrative that you're too stupid to look after, Delford.

Cannonpointer » 21 Mar 2026, 8:20 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2026, 8:20 pm

Yeah, I don't think so. 

As in, I don't think israel wants to try to govern or murder off 90 million Persians.

You don't think Israel would love to kill off the Palestinians?

Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2026, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2026, 11:42 am

Yes, retard. You could bowl me over with a feather that you consider this litte tiff a war. Presidents cannot start wars, you stewp. It's merely a dust up.

No, hypocrisy is my second language. It's your FIRST, so you have an advantage.

I'm just trying to preserve YOUR narrative that you're too stupid to look after, Delford.

Yeah, we'll take YOUR definition of "war" over that of every other dictionary, OK, you brainless buffoon?

Cambridge Dictionary

Meaning of war in English  
noun [ C or U ]
uk  /wɔːr/ us  /wɔːr/

armed fighting between two or more countries or groups, or a particular example of this

Only a complete imbecile like you could categorize a devastating war that has killed almost the entire leadership of a country, destroyed their air force and navy, ended their nuclear weapons program, wiped out virtually all of their defenses, taken control over their oil shipments, devastated their economy, and have the remaining mullahs of their leadership cowering in their spidey holes to hide "a little tiff"!