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How soon will we hear Trump's play on words and reframing about the war?
How soon will we hear Trump's play on words and reframing about the war?
By Vegas
30 Mar 2026 10:38 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
31 Mar 2026 7:29 pm
Eventually you will realize that no one can answer your question - including the military planners.BuckNaked » 31 Mar 2026, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑ B52s ruling the sky above Iran what targets are they going after?
The Iranians are fighting an asymmetrical war. Any target the US aims at gets them nothing. The things they would LIKE to hit are under hundreds of feet of earth - unavilable even to their bunker busters. Meanwhile, Iran continues to pepper US bases and US allies and vassals with missiles and drone strikes.
I like this guy. His reportage tends to be pretty even-handed. It's often hard to tell where his loyalties lie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26hcHVsNuBs
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31 Mar 2026 7:33 pm
I suspect that the JCoS informed Grafty that if he issued orders to commit war crimes, they would be ignored.BuckNaked » 31 Mar 2026, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑ B52s ruling the sky above Iran what targets are they going after?
31 Mar 2026 7:34 pm
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31 Mar 2026 7:36 pm
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31 Mar 2026 7:46 pm
They'll eat a mile of **** to get to the throne.Blackvegetable » 31 Mar 2026, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑ It's a bit more complicated than that...the End of Days crowd sees Bibi as the Conductor to Rapture....
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
31 Mar 2026 8:45 pm
Blackvegetable » 31 Mar 2026, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I suspect that the JCoS informed Grafty that if he issued orders to commit war crimes, they would be ignored.
good
31 Mar 2026 8:47 pm
Tomorrow at 9Vegas » 30 Mar 2026, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑ During his campaign, Trump promised "no more wars." That is one reason many people, including myself, voted for him. So why are we in a war? Because of course we are. It's just what our country does. It's an addiction that our government has. We have been around for 250 years and have known only 17 years of peace. Therefore, war is our trademark.
But there is no way Trump can squeeze out of this one. He was on record saying "no more wars." But wait....oh there is a way to squeeze out of it. Just call it something else, like a "military operation, "an intervention", or my personal favorite "a campaign." Then poof! There you have it. He kept his promise. All he had to do is change a word. Easy peasy.
Sadly, this is Israel's war. Trump bent the knee to NutsinYou, and now here we are.
31 Mar 2026 10:53 pm
Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2026, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑ But is it?
Resolved, I mean?
How is that partitioning idea working out on the Korean Peninusla?
And what right have we to dictate the end of Russia's war? Did we bleed for that land, or did they?
We were not pushed - we DID the pushing. Russia was pushed. And it pushed back harder and better and smarter and more successfully than we ever believed they could. WE thought the Russian people would turn on Putin's government. WE thought wrong. He is as popular as ever. The only flank Putin has to protect is his RIGHT flank. He has the eyebrows of the hawks raised a bit, for his incremental approach to the war. They want overwhelming force - shock and awe. He wants to limit the collateral damage. But the people? They are with him.
And then we have Iran. If you think we are anywhere REMOTELY CLOSE to dictating events on the ground in Iran, I am pleading with you to tell me what news-sewer you are slumming in. We don't even have boots on the ground. The very KURDS - the world's ready proxy army that reacts to the word "chicken" like Michael Fox in "Back to the Furture" - have told the US to **** off and fight their own battle.
I have no idea what the Kurds could possibly have against Trump, but that's their position. They won't fight in Iran, even if we promise them territory and statehood recognition for their trouble. The israelis have made it perfectly clear that they WANT boots on the ground, but those boots must be goy boots, animal boots - not human boots, not jewish boots.
And landing in Iran with some k-rats and comms and commands is hardly shaking the Shiraz and perambulating the Persepolis. There's many a slip twixt cup and lip.
You seem under the impression that the war's conclusion is written in the sands, inevitable and unquestionable. I do not beg, but I damned sure differ. I'm not even a quarter way through my bag of corn. I'm pacing myself, and I recommend you follow suit. The fat lady isn't even warming up. She's gorging on kabob.
My post was definitely tongue-in-cheek.
Korea has been a forced mess for quite awhile.
The Japs **** it up, then the Russians, then the USA.
That's a 100+ year old mess. The people didn't have any say it that.
Dividing countries always seemed awkward to me. The people kinda get the **** end of the stick.
otoh... If it solves the continuing war and brings peace, why not?
You still up with resentful people though. There's no pleasing everybody.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
So where do we turn in war criminals?
Trump is the master of your dumb brain.
Play with the words like you play with your dick jerk off.
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
You need to add your own 8chttpees to slash slash and hack through the @Cannon Pointer Parental Guidance Filter.
You need to add your own 8chttpees to slash slash and hack through the @Cannon Pointer Parental Guidance Filter.
1 Apr 2026 11:19 am
International Criminal CourtJohnnyYou » 01 Apr 2026, 4:15 am » wrote: ↑ So where do we turn in war criminals?
Trump is the master of your dumb brain.
Play with the words like you play with your dick jerk off.
I am the master of my domain
?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Trump will address the nation at 9 tonight
Honestly, I don't even consider the idea relevant, since the Russians have been adamant from the very first day that they will never accept a partitioning with a cease fire. They intend to fight until there is peace. And that peace will appropriately address Russia's security concerns - meaning the Ukrainian rump state will have a miniscule army again and Constitutional neutrality again.DeezerShoove » 31 Mar 2026, 10:53 pm » wrote: ↑ My post was definitely tongue-in-cheek.
Korea has been a forced mess for quite awhile.
The Japs **** it up, then the Russians, then the USA.
That's a 100+ year old mess. The people didn't have any say it that.
Dividing countries always seemed awkward to me. The people kinda get the **** end of the stick.
otoh... If it solves the continuing war and brings peace, why not?
You still up with resentful people though. There's no pleasing everybody.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
I agree. Mother Russia has ALWAYS been about defending against her borders. Creating buffer states has been a staple to her existence. Much as you might protest against the very existence of empire, there it be.Cannonpointer » 01 Apr 2026, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑ Honestly, I don't even consider the idea relevant, since the Russians have been adamant from the very first day that they will never accept a partitioning with a cease fire. They intend to fight until there is peace. And that peace will appropriately address Russia's security concerns - meaning the Ukrainian rump state will have a miniscule army again and Constitutional neutrality again.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2026, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Eventually you will realize that no one can answer your question - including the military planners.
The Iranians are fighting an asymmetrical war. Any target the US aims at gets them nothing. The things they would LIKE to hit are under hundreds of feet of earth - unavilable even to their bunker busters. Meanwhile, Iran continues to pepper US bases and US allies and vassals with missiles and drone strikes.
I like this guy. His reportage tends to be pretty even-handed. It's often hard to tell where his loyalties lie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26hcHVsNuBs
The vid title is funny. How do losses get better?
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
Russia's history is long and storied. Among the stories are many ambitions to empire. The most recent incarnation was the USSR.DeezerShoove » 01 Apr 2026, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑ I agree. Mother Russia has ALWAYS been about defending against her borders. Creating buffer states has been a staple to her existence. Much as you might protest against the very existence of empire, there it be.
Today's Russia uses "federation" to keep its vassals close. But it never wanted Ukraine to be part of its federation. It wanted Ukraine neutral, and neutral Ukraine shall again be - or a defanged rump state without a deep water port. It gets to choose. Either way, it will be a defanged rump state. If it settles before the Fall, it might get to keep Odessa.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
Losses get better by diminishing in frequency and scope. They get worse by increasing in one or both.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
Cannonpointer » 01 Apr 2026, 8:50 pm » wrote: ↑ Losses get better by diminishing in frequency and scope. They get worse by increasing in one or both.
So far not enough time to really tell. Small sample size.
I'm used to Viet Nam and Afghanistan samples...
My devil's advocate stance lately hasn't been getting rave reviews.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
Cannonpointer » 01 Apr 2026, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑ Russia's history is long and storied. Among the stories are many ambitions to empire. The most recent incarnation was the USSR.
Today's Russia uses "federation" to keep its vassals close. But it never wanted Ukraine to be part of its federation. It wanted Ukraine neutral, and neutral Ukraine shall again be - or a defanged rump state without a deep water port. It gets to choose. Either way, it will be a defanged rump state. If it settles before the Fall, it might get to keep Odessa.
Yeah. A buffer by another name.
More "neutral" especially to Russia.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
DO YOU REALLY think that a Nuclear Armed Iran, under the control of a bunch of Islamist Extremest Zealots & Ayatollahs would/could have gone very long before they USED their Nuclear bombs to try to TAKE OVER the Middle East (and BOMB Israel out of existence)... THEN do the same to Europe (when NATO EVEN NOW doesn't seem to think it was "THEIR Fight"... and THEN come after America & the Western Hemisphere... PROBABLY, WITH Russia & China as allies...Vegas » 30 Mar 2026, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑ During his campaign, Trump promised "no more wars." That is one reason many people, including myself, voted for him. So why are we in a war? Because of course we are. It's just what our country does. It's an addiction that our government has. We have been around for 250 years and have known only 17 years of peace. Therefore, war is our trademark.
But there is no way Trump can squeeze out of this one. He was on record saying "no more wars." But wait....oh there is a way to squeeze out of it. Just call it something else, like a "military operation, "an intervention", or my personal favorite "a campaign." Then poof! There you have it. He kept his promise. All he had to do is change a word. Easy peasy.
Sadly, this is Israel's war. Trump bent the knee to NutsinYou, and now here we are.
Yea, we STILL might have won, but it would have cost BILLIONS of lives, cost TRILLIONS of $$$, and MIGHT have been the Armageddon of Biblical prophecy... BUT THIS? THIS wasn't even a WAR ! America loses more soldiers than this on TRAINING exercises !!
BUT YOU... YOU would have BILLIONS die, and cost the world TRILLIONS of $$$, to RESOLVE something 5-10 years form now that is NOW practically DONE !! ...AND at minimal COST !
YOU are a FOOL... and Somebody needs to PUT YOU out of your Misery !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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