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ROG62 » 12 Apr 2026, 7:09 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 7:09 am

it’s easy when the Associated Press is the only MSM news source and they all run with it..

what you celebrate


https://youtu.be/Kk1mHvH8-jA?si=TUXqJuF_i5x0Y3UO

RebelGator » 12 Apr 2026, 6:23 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 6:23 am

Read your first paragraph and compare it with the next paragraph....it's exactly why we are gonna put you in a facility.

Are you a terrorist denier as well as a holocaust denier?

Seems they are related.

I've answered your last question before, just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

****, you ducked the questions with vague and gay generalities. 

Pretending that ONE american born muslim attacking the military base where he worked is at Iran's door step is just your eager sodomite nature looking for attention and shame. 
 

Fuelman » 12 Apr 2026, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 9:46 am

This conflicts with everything thing you just **** mouthed.

the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) found anthropogenic (man-made) uranium particles at three undeclared locations in Iran—Turquzabad, Varamin, and Marivan. These findings, stemming from samples taken in 2019 and 2020, indicate past, undeclared nuclear activities and have led to long-standing investigations and concerns over missing nuclear material. BBCBBC +4

Surely you are aware of the half-life of enriched Uranium.

         

The treaty was torn up in the Spring of 2018, Francis. 

Explain to the class how you know when and how those suspicious particles got there. 

Trump's OWN STATE DEPARTMENT found that Iran was in compliance with the treaty. Trump simply did not like the treaty. 

Look, you have every right to whacky opinions - we can blame art bell. 

But ya can't have your own facts. 
 
 

*Roshambo » 12 Apr 2026, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 9:57 am

oh hell no

Trump announces naval blockade of Strait of Hormuz after Iran talks collapse over nuclear demands

Trump instructed the Navy to "seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran.

President Trump announced Sunday that the United States will blockade the Strait of Hormuz after nearly 20 hours of peace talks in Islamabad collapsed over Iran's refusal to give up its nuclear ambitions.

“Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump wrote in a pair of posts on Truth Social.

Shutting down the strait was the goal all along. 
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Apr 2026, 9:16 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 9:16 pm

****, you ducked the questions with vague and gay generalities. 

Pretending that ONE american born muslim attacking the military base where he worked is at Iran's door step is just your eager sodomite nature looking for attention and shame. 
 

Specific Position Here Every Reproduction Exists Separately in their relative ancestral lineage and generation gap alive now. Geographically displaced in this atmosphere, solar system, galaxy, universal moment series parallel time currently displaced as an ever changing form that cannot create or destroy the perpetual balancing situation.

7 days a week is measured how? Intellectually. 24 vertical longitudes applied to mapping the surface of this rotating planet but the international dateline doesn't follow the 180 degree of rotation longitude. It zigzags over the Pacific Ocean. Is not the Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean the same body of water without 2 continents separating them from the Atlantic Ocean? What does the purpose of Panama Canal have in common with the Suez Canal.

Yes, both the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal are located in the Northern Hemisphere. The Suez Canal is in Egypt, and the Panama Canal is located in Panama at roughly, connecting the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Both are critical, relatively low-latitude maritime shortcuts for global trade.

France was behind the building of both canals. America completed the Panama.

What does/did/do the Persian empire and Iran to the Suez Canal? Held the world hostage from using it working a protection racket for passage through the Strait on their border. was not the land where Suez canal exist the actual land bridge between Asian and African continent that connected northern and southern hemisphere trade route.

Means, motives, methods, controlling trade routes, mayhem, madness, misery for anyone not paying to play roles in saving humanity tomorrow factually defined as 7 days a week evolving only happens now.

There went global free trade from ever reaching fruition. Thugocracy in plain sight for centuries.

Still want to debate vernacular tribalism builds better tomorrows than genetics sustains current global population left alive next rotation of the planet?

Cannonpointer » 12 Apr 2026, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 9:22 pm

         

The treaty was torn up in the Spring of 2018, Francis. 

Explain to the class how you know when and how those suspicious particles got there. 

Trump's OWN STATE DEPARTMENT found that Iran was in compliance with the treaty. Trump simply did not like the treaty. 

Look, you have every right to whacky opinions - we can blame art bell. 

But ya can't have your own facts.

Pay attention Driver:

Even though the US pulled out of the agreement, Iran continued to allow the IAEA to do inspections. Those samples were collected in 2019-20 granted by Iran.

Does it make sense Iran would shuffle some Uranium through those 3 undeclared sites after 2018? Doesn't make sense to me. It makes sense there was activity on the sites prior to the JCPOA going into effect and Iran chose not to disclose those locations. In my book, that's bold face lying.

That is why I believe Iran failed to meet the disclosure agreement in the beginning. You cannot wish away Uranium particles with half lives of several hundred thousand to billions of years. Bleach won't do the trick.

Iran is a big place, 620,000 square miles, do we really know as much as we should?

I will concede Iran played nice with little girls sitting on their laps during the JCPOA. The new agreement will have more teeth I suspect.   

 

jerrab » 12 Apr 2026, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 7:26 pm

what you celebrate

https://youtu.be/Kk1mHvH8-jA?si=TUXqJuF_i5x0Y3UO

no, jerritol, I don’t…NEXT!
 

ROG62 » 13 Apr 2026, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 9:30 am

no, jerritol, I don’t…NEXT!

do you oppose Grafty's war in Iran?

Cannonpointer » 12 Apr 2026, 9:25 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2026, 9:25 pm

Shutting down the strait was the goal all along.

I am impressed at anyone that can keep up with the “goal”. It started as “preemptive” and that was a lie. Then came regime change and that didn’t happen.
Next was “enrichment” but that was “decimated” last year. The 60% enriched uranium, that hasn’t been touched. It’s complicated, but Iran has not given up, they are winning this fight.
 

*Roshambo » 13 Apr 2026, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 2:40 pm

I am impressed at anyone that can keep up with the “goal”. It started as “preemptive” and that was a lie. Then came regime change and that didn’t happen.
Next was “enrichment” but that was “decimated” last year. The 60% enriched uranium, that hasn’t been touched. It’s complicated, but Iran has not given up, they are winning this fight.
 

This species is destroying itself inside out.

nobody is winning the fight to believe life exceeds current genetic results of ancestral positions inhabiting space daily here since conception adapting in their own skin 7 days a week.

To the winner of intellectual minds inheriting the earth tomorrow goes the spoils of everything absolutely corrupted by vernacular tribalism practiced last 7,000 years in every society recording their behavior cradle to grave.

Fuelman » 13 Apr 2026, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 8:58 am

Pay attention Driver:

Even though the US pulled out of the agreement, Iran continued to allow the IAEA to do inspections. Those samples were collected in 2019-20 granted by Iran.

Does it make sense Iran would shuffle some Uranium through those 3 undeclared sites after 2018? Doesn't make sense to me. It makes sense there was activity on the sites prior to the JCPOA going into effect and Iran chose not to disclose those locations. In my book, that's bold face lying.

That is why I believe Iran failed to meet the disclosure agreement in the beginning. You cannot wish away Uranium particles with half lives of several hundred thousand to billions of years. Bleach won't do the trick.

Iran is a big place, 620,000 square miles, do we really know as much as we should?

I will concede Iran played nice with little girls sitting on their laps during the JCPOA. The new agreement will have more teeth I suspect. 

If nothing was found on those sites beyond what you are saying, then there was nothing to it. Pallooshun happens. 

If Iran was playing dirty, why would they continue toallow the IAEA unfettered access even after Trump killed the deal that he will never improve on?
 

*Roshambo » 13 Apr 2026, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 2:40 pm

I am impressed at anyone that can keep up with the “goal”. It started as “preemptive” and that was a lie. Then came regime change and that didn’t happen.
Next was “enrichment” but that was “decimated” last year. The 60% enriched uranium, that hasn’t been touched. It’s complicated, but Iran has not given up, they are winning this fight.

Regime change was a goal - Trump failed. 

By "Trump" I mean that fat loud orange guy.

But closing the strait was the motive for everything that has been done. Forcing people to buy in petro dollars - SAVING the petro-dollar - is the ultimate goal. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 13 Apr 2026, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 4:26 pm

Regime change was a goal - Trump failed. 

By "Trump" I mean that fat loud orange guy.

But closing the strait was the motive for everything that has been done. Forcing people to buy in petro dollars - SAVING the petro-dollar - is the ultimate goal.

Was the Petro Dollar in trouble, "over there", prior to the fat loud orange guy causing this mess?
 

*Roshambo » 13 Apr 2026, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 4:35 pm

Was the Petro Dollar in trouble, "over there", prior to the fat loud orange guy causing this mess?

Yes, though tump exacerbated it. But it was on the way out due to abuse. The US had overplayed its hand, kicking too many nations off the dollar.
 

Cannonpointer » 09 Apr 2026, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2026, 10:14 am

I take it alll back!!! Woohoo!!!

youtube /watch?v=z_LEWYgioD4

Is Joe Biden your chauffer?

youtu.be/JfOnymA9eW4?si=jMp3swIT5xyZZQFC

Cannonpointer » 13 Apr 2026, 4:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 4:48 pm

Yes, though tump exacerbated it. But it was on the way out due to abuse. The US had overplayed its hand, kicking too many nations off the dollar.

 China's Defense Minister Warns Trump Not to 'Interfere With Our Affairs': Strait of Hormuz 'Is Open For Us'

China has contracts with Iran, hopefully they are going to fulfill those contracts

 

*Roshambo » 13 Apr 2026, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 8:15 pm

 China's Defense Minister Warns Trump Not to 'Interfere With Our Affairs': Strait of Hormuz 'Is Open For Us'

China has contracts with Iran, hopefully they are going to fulfill those contracts

Go suck some more chink dick sambo. Grease your *** up...traitor bastard.
 

Fuelman » 13 Apr 2026, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 8:58 am

Pay attention Driver:


 

I had an epiphany. You and I have access to the same facts, and we share many of the same values. Our disagreement stems from how we see the world, respectively.

You see a world of foreigners - ESPECIALLY muslim foreigners - who are inexplicable: deeply and fanatically hateful, religiously twisted,and violent by nature - hatefl and violent to the point of unprovoked suicidal violence. 

I look at that exact same group of people and see folks who want to get their kids through college and their mortgage paid before retirement. 

I don't believe you will disagree with this. ^

If your view is correct, then you are in the right. If mine is correct, then you are in the wrong. 

I would suggest you consider the following statements, and tell me if any are false:

1. You live in a country that has the foremost capacity in the world to make war, and the foremost proclivity in the world to be in wars.
2. You live in a country where there are two major parties who appear to disagree on everything EXCEPT war.
3. When it comes to these perennial wars, both parties vote to continue the funding, WHATEVER the rhetoric. The NECESSITY of the war is always bipartisan.
4. We were warned by Ike about the military industrial complex taking over our foreign policy.
5. Every government on earth uses propaganda to control the polpulace.
6. The media in America regularly justify every war we get into - and only later they only half admit the wars they pushed were not a good idea after all.
7. America has no moral highground from which to preach - the homosexual torture dungeons at Abu Ghraib and the sundry black-sites at which we torture human beings ended that fantasy.
8. America is in the BUSINESS of war, selling weapons to both sides of regional conflicts that we stir up and profit from.

If the Iranians are the genetic/social maniacs you see them as, they would not have a civilization as old as they do. SOMEONE would have killed them off centuries ago.The traits that you perceive in Middle Easterners are not positive evolutionary charicteristics. It really does not make any sense at all. A society composed of such people would fall apart at the seams on a regular basis and be overcome by neighboring societies. 

One of us looks at other nations - which ever ones we are picking wars with at the time - and sees unreasoning beasts. The other sees normal people being targeted by a superpower intent on taking their ****. 

We cannot both br right. For ME to be right, the US has to have been overtaken by a deep state composed of the MIC and the war dogs who share their interests. For YOU to be right, There have to be multiple societies out these which are composed of subhuman garbage - and many of these societies are centuries old. 

I just see the conditions for me being correct as far less fantastical than the conditions for you to be correct. My view dovetails with Ike's warnings. You have an entire life-time of being programmed to agree with every war that comes down the pike - and always because those people are inexplicable and crazy and demented and fanatical. And it seems that at no time has it ever occurred to you to look at the common denominator and just question the narrative - the never-changing narrative. 

And this? ^ This is in SPITE of the fact that you know we have used false flags to enter wars, to sell wars. The battleship maine. The gulf of tonkin. You know about operation northwoods. And still you let the deep state gull you - all while proclaiming yourself its foe. 
 

Blackvegetable » 13 Apr 2026, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 10:03 am

do you oppose Grafty's war in Iran?

I’m not for it…what’s not to loathe with US foreign policy…I saw through it beginning with Nam…
 

ROG62 » 13 Apr 2026, 11:43 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2026, 11:43 pm

I’m not for it…what’s not to loathe with US foreign policy…I saw through it beginning with Nam…

Sounds to me you are at a tipping point..

@Cannonpointer  will help you finish off the Golden Calf.