ANOTHER BV Failure- Appeals Court Blocks Trump Settlement to E. Jean Carroll

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Blackvegetable » 15 May 2026, 2:24 pm » wrote: The Verdict Form would show the jury's verdict.

 and it showed the jury answered NO when asked if enough evidence was provided for a finding of rape,

youuare not a smart person.
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Huey » 16 May 2026, 7:49 am » wrote:  and it showed the jury answered NO when asked if enough evidence was provided for a finding of rape,

youuare not a smart person.
Again....

What is at issue is the VERDICT.

It is the VERDICT from which Team Grifty petitioned for relief.

It did so on specific grounds.

You should learn what they are.
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 7:59 am » wrote:
Huey » 16 May 2026, 7:49 am » wrote:  and it showed the jury answered NO when asked if enough evidence was provided for a finding of rape,

youuare not a smart person.
Again....

What is at issue is the VERDICT.

It is the VERDICT from which Team Grifty petitioned for relief.

It did so on specific grounds.

You should learn what they are.
 

 
Thisis what is at issue. Stop reframing and running from your words, Melty.
Blackvegetable » 15 May 2026, 12:56 pm » wrote:
Beekeeper » 15 May 2026, 12:43 pm » wrote: So when the SCOTUD overturns the verdict of a CORRUPT JUDGE, will you bow down and worship at my feet??

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Blackvegetable » 15 May 2026, 4:53 pm » wrote: It is a range of offenses..
need specifics….facts matter…
 
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Blackvegetable » 15 May 2026, 5:09 pm » wrote: No....that is NOT what the jury found...

For the specific act alleged.....digital penetration.

They awarded 2 million because they considered it an act of rape....

It is the SPECIFIC argument made in Team Grifty's petition. 

And rejected by Kaplan in UPHOLDING the jury award.
brown, the jury could not consider it an act of rape by their own admission of a not guilty to rape verdict and the award based solely on sexual abuse, **** ****..


 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Beekeeper » 16 May 2026, 4:51 am » wrote: What evidence do you have that you are **** "smart"??
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ROG62 » 16 May 2026, 8:26 am » wrote: brown, the jury could not consider it an act of rape 
They found it an act of non-consensual penetration.

Which they, entirely irrespective of NY criminal code, were free to sanction as they deemed fit.

 
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ROG62 » 16 May 2026, 8:22 am » wrote: need specifics….facts matter…
As a matter of fact, Team Grifty petitioned the court for relief on specific grounds.

How are you doing with that?
 
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*Roshambo » 15 May 2026, 1:23 pm » wrote: I believe her, unless you were there, you have no business challenging her recollection.
Well I've BEEN to the Manhattan Bergdorf Goodman and seen the crowds in the store that would have responded to ANY cries of help or screamed rape from a fitting room that has a worker stationed at the entrance just a few steps away!  I've seen the number of security guards they employ in the store and know that it would have been virtually impossible for this bitch to exit from the 6th floor without passing one!  And if she did, she walked out of the store ON 5th AVENUE IN MANHATTAN, one of the busiest and most secure places on earth, and could have engaged numerous NYPD cops in the area if she truly was the victim of such a crime.

This is a typical crowd in and around the Bergdorf Goodman Manhattan store.  Just because YOU live in some Podunk town still shopping at their General Store that doesn't have any security, it doesn't mean that one of the busiest stores on one of the busiest streets in the world doesn't provide intense security for the wealthiest shoppers in the world:
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Zeets2 » 16 May 2026, 11:21 am » wrote: Well I've BEEN to the Manhattan Bergdorf Goodman and seen the crowds in the store that would have responded to ANY cries of help or screamed rape from a fitting room that has a worker stationed at the entrance just a few steps away!  I've seen the number of security guards they employ in the store and know that it would have been virtually impossible for this bitch to exit from the 6th floor without passing one!  And if she did, she walked out of the store ON 5th AVENUE IN MANHATTAN, one of the busiest and most secure places on earth, and could have engaged numerous NYPD cops in the area if she truly was the victim of such a crime.

This is a typical crowd in and around the Bergdorf Goodman Manhattan store.  Just because YOU live in some Podunk town still shopping at their General Store that doesn't have any security, it doesn't mean that one of the busiest stores on one of the busiest streets in the world doesn't provide intense security for the wealthiest shoppers in the world:
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Maybe that was the problem....none of the jurors had been to Manhattan...
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Huey » 16 May 2026, 8:07 am » wrote: Thisis what is at issue. Stop reframing and running from your words, Melty.
Controlly,

Controlly yourself. 
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Zeets2 » 16 May 2026, 11:21 am » wrote: Well I've BEEN to the Manhattan Bergdorf Goodman and seen the crowds in the store that would have responded to ANY cries of help or screamed rape from a fitting room that has a worker stationed at the entrance just a few steps away!  I've seen the number of security guards they employ in the store and know that it would have been virtually impossible for this bitch to exit from the 6th floor without passing one!  And if she did, she walked out of the store ON 5th AVENUE IN MANHATTAN, one of the busiest and most secure places on earth, and could have engaged numerous NYPD cops in the area if she truly was the victim of such a crime.

This is a typical crowd in and around the Bergdorf Goodman Manhattan store.  Just because YOU live in some Podunk town still shopping at their General Store that doesn't have any security, it doesn't mean that one of the busiest stores on one of the busiest streets in the world doesn't provide intense security for the wealthiest shoppers in the world:
Typical TRUMP loyalist, refers to a famous woman as a BITCH. ZEETS2 Trump is not a "victim" HE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE HE IS  Image  

You probably visited the men's room at Manhattan Bergdorf Goodman to engage in homosexual relations. Our winter residence is in Big Bay Michigan. We enjoy the tranquility of the UP, the snow, snowmobiling, and a host of other winter activities. Where we shop is no concern of yours.

Analyze the pattern

The FBI Interviews: The Department of Justice (DOJ) released summaries of four 2019 FBI interviews with an anonymous female victim. She alleged that Epstein transported her to New York/New Jersey at age 13 and introduced her to Trump, who she claims assaulted her in a tall building.
The Allegations: She alleged that Trump ordered everyone out of the room, forced her head to his penis, and struck her in the head when she bit him in self-defense.

ZEETS2 I carry my security on my hip, "Big Iron", Ruger Blackhawk 5.5" 44LC with "hot" SM Bear Load .45 Colt, 325gr Wide Flat Nose Gas Check ammo.
This will stop any two legged or four legged vermin, including a bear. 
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 7:59 am » wrote:
Huey » 16 May 2026, 7:49 am » wrote:  and it showed the jury answered NO when asked if enough evidence was provided for a finding of rape,

youuare not a smart person.
Again....

What is at issue is the VERDICT.

It is the VERDICT from which Team Grifty petitioned for relief.

It did so on specific grounds.

You should learn what they are.
 

 
 
Huey » 16 May 2026, 8:07 am » wrote:
Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 7:59 am » wrote:
Huey » 16 May 2026, 7:49 am » wrote:  and it showed the jury answered NO when asked if enough evidence was provided for a finding of rape,

youuare not a smart person.
Again....

What is at issue is the VERDICT.

It is the VERDICT from which Team Grifty petitioned for relief.

It did so on specific grounds.

You should learn what they are.
 


 
Thisis what is at issue. Stop reframing and running from your words, Melty.
Blackvegetable » 15 May 2026, 12:56 pm » wrote:
Beekeeper » 15 May 2026, 12:43 pm » wrote: So when the SCOTUD overturns the verdict of a CORRUPT JUDGE, will you bow down and worship at my feet??

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IT....WAS....A...JURY...TRIAL...., YOU....BRAINDEAD....LUMP....OF...****...

 


 
 

 
 
Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 11:48 am » wrote:
Huey » 16 May 2026, 8:07 am » wrote: Thisis what is at issue. Stop reframing and running from your words, Melty.
Controlly,

Controlly yourself. 

 
It is so entertaining when you edit posts (lie) to change context or win an argument.
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*Roshambo » 16 May 2026, 11:51 am » wrote: Typical TRUMP loyalist, refers to a famous woman as a BITCH. ZEETS2 Trump is not a "victim" HE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE HE IS  Image  

You probably visited the men's room at Manhattan Bergdorf Goodman to engage in homosexual relations. Our winter residence is in Big Bay Michigan. We enjoy the tranquility of the UP, the snow, snowmobiling, and a host of other winter activities. Where we shop is no concern of yours.

Analyze the pattern

The FBI Interviews: The Department of Justice (DOJ) released summaries of four 2019 FBI interviews with an anonymous female victim. She alleged that Epstein transported her to New York/New Jersey at age 13 and introduced her to Trump, who she claims assaulted her in a tall building.
The Allegations: She alleged that Trump ordered everyone out of the room, forced her head to his penis, and struck her in the head when she bit him in self-defense.

ZEETS2 I carry my security on my hip, "Big Iron", Ruger Blackhawk 5.5" 44LC with "hot" SM Bear Load .45 Colt, 325gr Wide Flat Nose Gas Check ammo.
This will stop any two legged or four legged vermin, including a bear.
I DO believe he is a victim, just as anyone with a brain would when you have virtually NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER beyond the bogus claims of a gold-digger interested only in suing a wealthy businessman for millions!

If an alleged "victim" CAN'T identify the date, the time, or even the year of her claim, and doesn't have a single witness to an attack she claims was in the fitting room of one of the largest, most populated midtown Manhattan retail stores, which has an attendant at the doorway to the fitting room and security guards throughout the store she could have registered her complaint with, and then the corrupt DOJ of liberal NY totally ignores the statute of limitations on filing such a charge and insists that the trial venue remains in one of the most Trump-hating Democrat-run cities in the country for their jury pool, which didn't need a unanimous verdict but only a 4 person majority to convict him, along with the fact that she didn't make the claim for years afterward, knowing that the security cameras at the store would not retain those videos for so many years and would be unable to disprove her phony claim, then anyone with half a brain should be able to conclude how the fix was in to simply "get Trump" in the heavily biased "trial" against him.  And the phony conviction is on appeal and very possibly will be overturned by the Supreme Court, which will no doubt break your little liberal heart!

And I think you're wise to pack a gun when you live in a shanty town of 265 people like Big Bay in a liberal state with a huge and growing Muslim population.
Needless to say, you're not nearly as familiar with witnessing the logistics of security in the kind of wealthy mid-Manhattan retail store on 5th Avenue as someone who has actually been to that Bergdorf Goodman store.

 
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Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 11:46 am » wrote:  
Maybe that was the problem....none of the jurors had been to Manhattan...
The pool of jurists for the trial were all from Manhattan, which is why the venue should have been moved outside of the city, if the intention was to obtain an impartial jury. 
It was not, because the fix was in.
 
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Zeets2 » 16 May 2026, 1:32 pm » wrote: The pool of jurists for the trial were all from Manhattan, which is why the venue should have been moved outside of the city, if the intention was to obtain an impartial jury. 
It was not, because the fix was in.
So why do you insist you know more about Bergdorf than they do?
which is why the venue should have been moved outside of the city, if the intention was to obtain an impartial jury. 

Why would a jury from the relevant jurisdiction not be impartial? 
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Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 8:34 am » wrote: They found it an act of non-consensual penetration.

Which they, entirely irrespective of NY criminal code, were free to sanction as they deemed fit.
and NY statute at the time was it’s rape if it’s by penile penetration…

fingers? Not rape
tongue? Not rape
feefees? Not rape

#surgeryforlimbsrequired
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Blackvegetable » 16 May 2026, 8:36 am » wrote: As a matter of fact, Team Grifty petitioned the court for relief on specific grounds.

How are you doing with that?
Irrelevant…
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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*Roshambo » 15 May 2026, 1:23 pm » wrote: I believe her, unless you were there, you have no business challenging her recollection.
did you believe Tara Reid?
did you believe Ashley Biden?
how about Christine Margaret Blasey Ford?
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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*Roshambo » 15 May 2026, 4:38 pm » wrote: JuCo, **** YOUR QUESTIONS
#can’tanswersimplequestion
#****
#******
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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