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President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are facing backlash for allegedly threatening the retirement benefits and rank of veterans who speak out against the administration. The conflict centers on Senator and retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly, who is suing the administration for retaliating against him.

The controversy escalated after Senator Kelly made public statements advising service members to follow the law and refuse illegal orders. In response, the administration initiated a military investigation, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempting to censure Kelly, strip him of his rank, and revoke his military pension. 

In a federal appeals court, lawyers for the Defense Department argued that military retirees remain bound by certain free speech restrictions and that veterans who violate these rules could forfeit their pensions and benefits. Senator Kelly filed a 46-page lawsuit against Hegseth, the Navy Secretary, and the DoD, arguing that the administration is trampling on First Amendment rights and using pension threats to intimidate veterans.

https://youtu.be/T8rhqeqmA6M

 
 

*Roshambo » 57 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

57 minutes ago

President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are facing backlash for allegedly threatening the retirement benefits and rank of veterans who speak out against the administration. The conflict centers on Senator and retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly, who is suing the administration for retaliating against him.

The controversy escalated after Senator Kelly made public statements advising service members to follow the law and refuse illegal orders. In response, the administration initiated a military investigation, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempting to censure Kelly, strip him of his rank, and revoke his military pension. 

In a federal appeals court, lawyers for the Defense Department argued that military retirees remain bound by certain free speech restrictions and that veterans who violate these rules could forfeit their pensions and benefits. Senator Kelly filed a 46-page lawsuit against Hegseth, the Navy Secretary, and the DoD, arguing that the administration is trampling on First Amendment rights and using pension threats to intimidate veterans.

https://youtu.be/T8rhqeqmA6M

trump just likes assholes and jerks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZQaOJumoHc

truthfully we have a **** up president who loves people **** up like him.
 

*Roshambo » Today, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:46 pm

President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are facing backlash for allegedly threatening the retirement benefits and rank of veterans who speak out against the administration. The conflict centers on Senator and retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly, who is suing the administration for retaliating against him.

The controversy escalated after Senator Kelly made public statements advising service members to follow the law and refuse illegal orders. In response, the administration initiated a military investigation, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempting to censure Kelly, strip him of his rank, and revoke his military pension. 

In a federal appeals court, lawyers for the Defense Department argued that military retirees remain bound by certain free speech restrictions and that veterans who violate these rules could forfeit their pensions and benefits. Senator Kelly filed a 46-page lawsuit against Hegseth, the Navy Secretary, and the DoD, arguing that the administration is trampling on First Amendment rights and using pension threats to intimidate veterans.

https://youtu.be/T8rhqeqmA6M

Kelly is scum.
 

It's not a threat. It's a fact. Keep your stupid mouth shut.

jerrab » 17 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

17 minutes ago

truthfully we have a **** up president who loves people **** up like him.

Trump is the modern day equivalent of the Count of Monte Cristo......a man who was wronged and will exact his justified revenge against the liars, hoaxers, and pranksters that persecuted him.

RebelGator » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

8 minutes ago

Trump is the modern day equivalent of the Count of Monte Cristo......a man who was wronged and will exact his justified revenge against the liars, hoaxers, and pranksters that persecuted him.

That's odd.. He seems like the biggest piece of **** ever created to me.

 

JohnnyYou » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

That's odd.. He seems like the biggest piece of **** ever created to me.

Yep, you're playing Villefort's role.

RebelGator » 38 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

38 minutes ago

Trump is the modern day equivalent of the Count of Monte Cristo......a man who was wronged and will exact his justified revenge against the liars, hoaxers, and pranksters that persecuted him.

         

RebelGator » 44 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

44 minutes ago

Trump is the modern day equivalent of the Count of Monte Cristo......a man who was wronged and will exact his justified revenge against the liars, hoaxers, and pranksters that persecuted him.

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The classified documents case against Donald Trump was prosecuted by Special Counsel Jack Smith, who was appointed by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland. Smith, a former chief prosecutor for the war crimes court in The Hague, led the Department of Justice's investigation into the retention of classified materials at Mar-a-Lago



         

JohnnyYou » 40 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

40 minutes ago

That's odd.. He seems like the biggest piece of **** ever created to me.

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The classified documents case against Donald Trump was prosecuted by Special Counsel Jack Smith, who was appointed by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland. Smith, a former chief prosecutor for the war crimes court in The Hague, led the Department of Justice's investigation into the retention of classified materials at Mar-a-Lago

*Roshambo » Today, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:46 pm

President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are facing backlash for allegedly threatening the retirement benefits and rank of veterans who speak out against the administration. The conflict centers on Senator and retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly, who is suing the administration for retaliating against him.

The controversy escalated after Senator Kelly made public statements advising service members to follow the law and refuse illegal orders. In response, the administration initiated a military investigation, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempting to censure Kelly, strip him of his rank, and revoke his military pension. 

In a federal appeals court, lawyers for the Defense Department argued that military retirees remain bound by certain free speech restrictions and that veterans who violate these rules could forfeit their pensions and benefits. Senator Kelly filed a 46-page lawsuit against Hegseth, the Navy Secretary, and the DoD, arguing that the administration is trampling on First Amendment rights and using pension threats to intimidate veterans.

https://youtu.be/T8rhqeqmA6M

Kelly knows military rules…don’t be a traitor…

RebelGator » Yesterday, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:17 pm

Yep, you're playing Villefort's role.

Can't say I am familiar..

"Villefort" most commonly refers to the infamous French public prosecutor from Alexandre Dumas’ classic novel, The Count of Monte Cristo, or it can refer to a commune and tourist destination in southern France. [1, 2, 3]

You are playing a "1984" role.  You sheeple..
 

jerrab » Yesterday, 7:48 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:48 pm

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The classified documents case against Donald Trump was prosecuted by Special Counsel Jack Smith, who was appointed by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland. Smith, a former chief prosecutor for the war crimes court in The Hague, led the Department of Justice's investigation into the retention of classified materials at Mar-a-Lago

Jack Smith was an installed puppet.
Needs to be in a cell.
Merrick Garland was an absolute piece of pig ****.

The double standards you apply don't seem to be troublesome at all. Way to go.

This thread right here is one of the reasons I will be going dark again soon.
The O.P. is about limiting freedom of speech and somehow that never got discussed.
Kelly will win,plain and simple.
He didn't incite anybody to disobey any orders all he did was repeat what service members are told. "You don't have to obey orders that go against the code of conduct".

*Roshambo » Yesterday, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:46 pm

President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are facing backlash for allegedly threatening the retirement benefits and rank of veterans who speak out against the administration. The conflict centers on Senator and retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly, who is suing the administration for retaliating against him.

The controversy escalated after Senator Kelly made public statements advising service members to follow the law and refuse illegal orders. In response, the administration initiated a military investigation, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempting to censure Kelly, strip him of his rank, and revoke his military pension. 

In a federal appeals court, lawyers for the Defense Department argued that military retirees remain bound by certain free speech restrictions and that veterans who violate these rules could forfeit their pensions and benefits. Senator Kelly filed a 46-page lawsuit against Hegseth, the Navy Secretary, and the DoD, arguing that the administration is trampling on First Amendment rights and using pension threats to intimidate veterans.

https://youtu.be/T8rhqeqmA6M

 
 

 

I do believe it is petty but military officers who retire after 20 years are still subject to the UCMJ.

AI OverviewRetired military officers from regular components (such as the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps) are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and can be recalled to active duty for disciplinary reasons or court-martial
 

Squatchman » Today, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 8:01 am

This thread right here is one of the reasons I will be going dark again soon.
The O.P. is about limiting freedom of speech and somehow that never got discussed.
Kelly will win,plain and simple.
He didn't incite anybody to disobey any orders all he did was repeat what service members are told. "You don't have to obey orders that go against the code of conduct".

Go get drunk about it.

DeezerShoove » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

Go get drunk about it.

not much of a defense

*Roshambo » Yesterday, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:46 pm

President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are facing backlash for allegedly threatening the retirement benefits and rank of veterans who speak out against the administration. The conflict centers on Senator and retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly, who is suing the administration for retaliating against him.

The controversy escalated after Senator Kelly made public statements advising service members to follow the law and refuse illegal orders. In response, the administration initiated a military investigation, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempting to censure Kelly, strip him of his rank, and revoke his military pension. 

In a federal appeals court, lawyers for the Defense Department argued that military retirees remain bound by certain free speech restrictions and that veterans who violate these rules could forfeit their pensions and benefits. Senator Kelly filed a 46-page lawsuit against Hegseth, the Navy Secretary, and the DoD, arguing that the administration is trampling on First Amendment rights and using pension threats to intimidate veterans.

https://youtu.be/T8rhqeqmA6M

fake news from a know dickhead

nefarious101 » 29 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

29 minutes ago

fake news from a know dickhead

Your radishes must be fermenting..