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Since you presume to have such a vast and thorough understanding of jobs and the economy, Johnny, why don't you explain to us how beneficial it is for taxpayers to continue to provide the tens of thousands of make-work government jobs that liberal idiot Biden added to the government's payroll to do nothing more than increase regulations and muddle the bureaucracy for the rest of the country? Do you not understand the fact that cutting thousands of useless bureaucrats SAVES our country billions of dollars and IS NOT a net cost to the economy when those jobs are cut?  If those jobs were SO essential and vital for the economy, then why wouldn't we just immediately hire 100,000 new government workers to dig a hole in the ground and another 100,000 to fill them in, and give every one of them a $100,000 salary?  Think of how great the job creation totals will appear to ignorant liberals like you!  And that's basically what your demented idiot Biden did in order to help coverup his lousy economy, and that stupidity is now being rectified by President Trump.   Government jobs (aside from the military) DO NOT "help" the economy!  They hurt it by forcing taxpayers to fund THOSE meaningless jobs instead of letting the free market determine where those dollars were better spent on their own individual needs.  Biden's expanded the climate change hoax by hiring 300,000 new workers, and with the additional regulations they authorized, it cost this country nearly a trillion dollars that was all proven to be a worthless expenditure thanks to Biden, and it is now being corrected by Trump! Care to tell us how so much wasteful spending and fraud was beneficial for the country, dimwit?

Zeets2 » 15 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Since you presume to have such a vast and thorough understanding of jobs and the economy, Johnny, why don't you explain to us how beneficial it is for taxpayers to continue to provide the tens of thousands of make-work government jobs that liberal idiot Biden added to the government's payroll to do nothing more than increase regulations and muddle the bureaucracy for the rest of the country? Do you not understand the fact that cutting thousands of useless bureaucrats SAVES our country billions of dollars and IS NOT a net cost to the economy when those jobs are cut?  If those jobs were SO essential and vital for the economy, then why wouldn't we just immediately hire 100,000 new government workers to dig a hole in the ground and another 100,000 to fill them in, and give every one of them a $100,000 salary?  Think of how great the job creation totals will appear to ignorant liberals like you!  And that's basically what your demented idiot Biden did in order to help coverup his lousy economy, and that stupidity is now being rectified by President Trump.   Government jobs (aside from the military) DO NOT "help" the economy!  They hurt it by forcing taxpayers to fund THOSE meaningless jobs instead of letting the free market determine where those dollars were better spent on their own individual needs.  Biden's expanded the climate change hoax by hiring 300,000 new workers, and with the additional regulations they authorized, it cost this country nearly a trillion dollars that was all proven to be a worthless expenditure thanks to Biden, and it is now being corrected by Trump! Care to tell us how so much wasteful spending and fraud was beneficial for the country, dimwit?

I am not in disagreement that Government needs to be more efficient. Process Improvement is continuous.   Wait for November.

The damage Trump has done to that is a YUGE amount of Corruption.

The DOGE Geeekstapo took a copy of 550 Million Americans personal data, alive and dead...   That can't be beneficial in the hands of bad actors..
 
 

Zeets2 » 40 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

40 minutes ago

Since you presume to have such a vast and thorough understanding of jobs and the economy, Johnny, why don't you explain to us how beneficial it is for taxpayers to continue to provide the tens of thousands of make-work government jobs that liberal idiot Biden added to the government's payroll to do nothing more than increase regulations and muddle the bureaucracy for the rest of the country? 

Let's see the data series first, Zeet..

Blackvegetable » 49 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

49 minutes ago

you posted this...BLS says "about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE.....SHOW US WHERE THAT IS IN YOUR CHART. SHOW US WHERE THAT IS STATED BY BLS....ANYWHERE. U R a STONE-COLD LIAR. U R A STONE-COLD COWARD TOO.....one of the BIGGEST LIES told on here...BLS says "about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE......and said by you.
 

MR-7 » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

you posted this...BLS says "about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE.....SHOW US WHERE THAT IS IN YOUR CHART. SHOW US WHERE THAT IS STATED BY BLS....ANYWHERE. U R a STONE-COLD LIAR. U R A STONE-COLD COWARD TOO.....one of the BIGGEST LIES told on here...BLS says "about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE......and said by you.

You are rich to complain about lies..   I thought that was a standard MO for MAGAts.

You're a loser Seven.  Join the tide pushing Trump out the Potomac to Sea. He is going to take the money and run to Albania.
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:06 am

With the release of January 2026 data on February 11, 2026, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) introduced its annual revision to national estimates of employment, hours, and earnings from the Current Employment Statistics (CES) monthly survey of nonfarm establishments. 

The March 2025 benchmarked, seasonally adjusted employment level for total nonfarm employment is 158,377,000. The not seasonally adjusted benchmarked employment level is 157,540,000. 

Compared with the sample-based, seasonally adjusted published estimate for March 2025, total nonfarm employment had a revision of −898,000 or −0.6 percent. The not seasonally adjusted total nonfarm employment estimate was revised by −862,000 or −0.5 percent.

STUPID ****..., you’re posting a March revision and pretending it’s an annual total. If the BLS actually said 180,000 for the whole year, you’d be able to point to it...but you can’t.
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:29 am

I am not in disagreement that Government needs to be more efficient. 

The damage Trump has done to that is a YUGE amount of Corruption.

Trump has EXPOSED the corruption running rampant through Biden's administration!
 Never heard of The Quality Learing Center?:


Read on, numbnuts:

Everything to Know About the Latest House Democrat Fraud Scandal
MSN by Phenix S Halley
 Another member of Congress has been indicted on federal charges, and  the news is shocking the Democratic party. FL Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick is now facing up to 53 years in prison for a fraud scheme that involved FEMA.

..and on:

The Archivist  Aug 25, 2025 by: Adrian Hawthorne
Democratic Party Rocked by Massive Corruption Scandals: $800,000 Embezzlement Case Exposes Systemic Pay-to-Play Culture

 A devastating wave of corruption scandals is engulfing high-ranking Democratic officials across the country, exposing what prosecutors describe as a systemic culture of self-dealing, financial fraud, and abuse of public trust that has reached into the highest levels of party leadership. 

The Los Angeles Scandal: A Web of Financial Deceit
The corruption investigation that has ensnared LA City Councilman Curren Price represents one of the most complex cases of municipal fraud in recent CA history. The LA District Attorney filed two additional charges against the Democratic councilman bringing the total criminal activity to over $800,000 in misappropriated public funds.

..and on:

These are the Democrats who’ve been arrested, detained or charged under Trump
by Ashleigh Fields - 06/18/25

NYC Comptroller Brad Lander
Several ICE agents handcuffed NYC Comptroller Brad Lander, outside an immigration court Tuesday for impeding law enforcement officers. 

Rep. LaMonica McIverRep. LaMonica McIver (NJ) was federally charged for allegedly interfering with ICE agents during a visit to the Delaney Hall detention center in Newark, for congressional oversight.

Judge Hannah Dugan Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was indicted by a federal grand jury in  May for “knowingly” concealing a migrant.

and on:

Democratic congresswoman charged with stealing $5M in FEMA funds, making illegal campaign contributions: DOJ
The indictment alleges the $5 million was an overpayment on a contract.
By Alexander Mallin, John Parkinson, and Lauren Peller
Nov 20, 2025

 Dem Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, of Fl, has been indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of stealing $5 million in FEMA funds, which she is accused of laundering to support her 2021 campaign.

 
 

JohnnyYou » 31 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Can you provide any evidence job creation was greater than 180K total?

Hey Golliwog, bv made the claim that "BLS says about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE"...........
It's 100% FALSE. A flat-out LIE. If you would put a little more effort into actually reading and understanding something, you would not be so GOD DAMNED **** IGNORANT.
 

Blackvegetable » 42 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

42 minutes ago

Let's see the data series first, Zeet..

Oh, so you think there's data available that shows how Biden's waste of almost a trillion dollars he threw at the hoax of climate change was a worthy venture?
Think the "data" you demand to see would show that Biden's stupidity DIDN'T cause the price of gas and diesel to skyrocket or the inflation rate to rise to the highest level in 40 years of 9.1%?

Why don't you come up with some data that shows how Biden's idiotic hiring of hundreds of thousands of new federal bureaucrats like the 86,000 new ARMED IRS agents he wanted was actually beneficial to the economy?
 

Zeets2 » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

Oh, so you think there's data available that shows how Biden's waste of


 

I want to see the objective facts which inform your Stream of Bullzeet.

 

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

I want to see the objective facts which inform your Stream of Bullzeet.

When will you say goodbye to the forum? 
 

MR-7 » 41 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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STUPID ****..., you’re posting a March revision and pretending it’s an annual total. If the BLS actually said 180,000 for the whole year, you’d be able to point to it...but you can’t.

Subtract the revised January 2025 number from the revised December 2025 number...

Blackvegetable » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

Subtract the revised January 2025 number from the revised December 2025 number...

The table you posted has two sections:

Levels and Over‑the‑Month Changes
Levels are total employment Slack Jaw...not job creation
Over‑the‑Month Changes are the actual job gains/losses
To get the annual total, you add the monthly changes, not subtract levelsYou are literally using the wrong column to calculate the wrong metric.You are subtracting employment levels and calling it job creation...you really are stupid...
 
 

MR-7 » 2 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

2 minutes ago

The table you posted has two sections:

Levels and Over‑the‑Month Changes
 Levels are total employment Slack Jaw...not job creationOver‑the‑Month Changes are the actual job gains/lossesTo get the annual total, you add the monthly changes, not subtract levelsYou are literally using the wrong column to calculate the wrong metric.=15pxYou are subtracting employment levels and calling it job creation...you really are stupid...

Do what you're told, first.

MR-7 » Today, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:54 am

The table you posted has two sections:

Levels and Over‑the‑Month Changes
Levels are total employment Slack Jaw...not job creation
Over‑the‑Month Changes are the actual job gains/losses
To get the annual total, you add the monthly changes, not subtract levelsYou are literally using the wrong column to calculate the wrong metric.You are subtracting employment levels and calling it job creation...you really are stupid...

The first column of revised data...

Get it done.

MR-7 » Today, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 8:35 am

@Vegas  @Cannonpointer  @Johnny You  @Beekeeper  @RebelGator  @ROG62  @Zeets2 @PhiloBeddo

He will never take the deal. I have challenged him so many times with various deals and he has only taken 2 out of...I don't know. Probably over 100. He lost both. Then of course blamed the mods. Shocking. The guy is a coward. He just is. 

@Blackvegetable  
 

MR-7 » Today, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:55 am

you posted this...BLS says "about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE.....SHOW US WHERE THAT IS IN YOUR CHART. SHOW US WHERE THAT IS STATED BY BLS....ANYWHERE. U R a STONE-COLD LIAR. U R A STONE-COLD COWARD TOO.....one of the BIGGEST LIES told on here...BLS says "about 180,000 for the ENTIRE year, NATIONWIDE......and said by you.

BeeVee has a poor record when it comes to comprehension of graphs and charts.
 

MR-7 » Today, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:10 am

STUPID ****..., you’re posting a March revision and pretending it’s an annual total. If the BLS actually said 180,000 for the whole year, you’d be able to point to it...but you can’t.

Be aware, the mere fact that it is not there does NOT mean he doesn't believe it's there.

If someone he thinks is an authority says it's there, he will believe it's there.