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Zeets2 » 11 Jun 2026, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 12:28 pm

OK stupid, let's go over this.

 

Why?

You can't understand what you read.


 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 7:30 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 7:30 am

So **** g'ddammned stupid..

The Trump administration’s immigration surge into US cities last year resulted in 668,000 job losses, creating a “chilling effect” that pervaded local economies, hurt businesses and affected American-born workers.

Industries that traditionally employ a large share of undocumented migrants saw the biggest impact, but employment in sectors like arts and entertainment also fell sharply as businesses cut staff due to decreased consumer activity.

The study estimated that between 51,000 and 297,000 of the lost jobs would have been held by American-born workers, as businesses that rely partly on immigrant workers scaled back operations for everyone, including US-born employees.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... eport-says

if you take the average of the estimates, Grafty DESTROYED as many jobs as the economy generated in 2025...

America can never be great until we turn the Stupid into fertilizer...

TOTAL BS... In case you haven't heard, recent HUGE JOB GAINS have given markets the idea that inflation may be coming back... SO THAT is a bunch of BS... AND, THE WORLD is now pushing back against MILLIONS and MILLIONS of illegals crowding into countries in Europe, South America, & America... and is resulting in RIOTS, because the PEOPLE have had enough !!  ...IT'S COMING TO AN END !!

What's more... you get CRAP like what went down in Minnesota... ILLEGALS think they can come to America and STEAL from American Citizens... Well the Report is now OUT, Tim WALZ and Keith ELLISON are likely going to JAIL... for KNOWING that a $9.3 BILLION fraud was going down in Minnesota and DOING NOTHING about it.. 

Looks like California might be next, or maybe NY, IL, N, or WA... ONE thing for sure... TRUMP isn't going to shelve these investigations... HE'S going to EXECUTE them !!  RIP K. Walz, K. Ellison and who ever else was guilty of similar FRAUD, THEFT, and EXTORTION !!

Reference the attachment below... Executive Summary, bullet #10:
"These failures allowed an estimated $300 million in federal child nutrition funds and potentially $9 billion in Medicaid-related funds to be lost or placed at serious risk."... THANK YOU Mr. Walz & Ellison !!

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... Report.pdf

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 12:32 pm

Why?

You can't understand what you read.

I understood it perfectly, fool!
Tell me where I'm wrong!

Doesn't it mean that those 668,000 illegals who held jobs in the US have now been deported?
And doesn't that mean that their employers are now hiring an equal number of replacements?

PLEASE, share with us your vast economic and business ownership knowledge and experience!
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jun 2026, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:00 pm

I understood it perfectly, fool!
Tell me where I'm wrong!

Doesn't it mean that those 668,000 illegals who held jobs in the US have now been deported?
And doesn't that mean that their employers are now hiring an equal number of replacements?

PLEASE, share with us your vast economic and business ownership knowledge and experience!

No....it does not.

I've already told you this..

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ConservativeWave » 11 Jun 2026, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 12:55 pm

TOTAL BS... In case you haven't heard, recent HUGE JOB GAINS have given markets the idea that inflation may be coming back... SO THAT is a bunch of BS... AND, THE WORLD is now pushing back against MILLIONS and MILLIONS of illegals crowding into countries in Europe, South America, & America... and is resulting in RIOTS, because the PEOPLE have had enough !!  ...IT'S COMING TO AN END !!

What's more... you get CRAP like what went down in Minnesota... ILLEGALS think they can come to America and STEAL from American Citizens... Well the Report is now OUT, Tim WALZ and Keith ELLISON are likely going to JAIL... for KNOWING that a $9.3 BILLION fraud was going down in Minnesota and DOING NOTHING about it.. 

Looks like California might be next, or maybe NY, IL, N, or WA... ONE thing for sure... TRUMP isn't going to shelve these investigations... HE'S going to EXECUTE them !!  RIP K. Walz, K. Ellison and who ever else was guilty of similar FRAUD, THEFT, and EXTORTION !!

Reference the attachment below... Executive Summary, bullet #10:
"These failures allowed an estimated $300 million in federal child nutrition funds and potentially $9 billion in Medicaid-related funds to be lost or placed at serious risk."... THANK YOU Mr. Walz & Ellison !!

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... Report.pdf

 

recent HUGE JOB GAINS have given markets the idea that inflation may be coming back...

Post the latest jobs number.

Post the latest inflation reading.

Kill yourself. 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:07 pm

No....it does not.

I've already told you this..

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Yeah, you've made that ridiculously stupid statement repeatedly, but you can't explain it!
WHY aren't those 668,000 jobs now open for employers to hire legal American workers to replace them?

Do you admit that you think those business owners will simply close their doors and happily go bankrupt because they now have to replace some workers?  How is doing that ANY different than when a worker quits, dies, or retires?
You need to explain WHY you believe that it DOESN'T simply open up the job market for LEGAL workers!
Or, which is most likely, you're simply clueless about how a business operates, which you've shown many times here!
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jun 2026, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:17 pm

Yeah, you've made that ridiculously stupid statement repeatedly, but you can't explain it!
WHY aren't those 668,000 jobs now open for employers to hire legal American workers to replace them?

Do you admit that you think those business owners will simply close their doors and happily go bankrupt because they now have to replace some workers?  How is doing that ANY different than when a worker quits, dies, or retires?
You need to explain WHY you believe that it DOESN'T simply open up the job market for LEGAL workers!
Or, which is most likely, you're simply clueless about how a business operates, which you've shown many times here!

Given that the article does, I don't see why I need to....unless you can't read.
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm

Given that the article does, I don't see why I need to....unless you can't read.

Where does your article say ANYTHING about the obvious increased number of job openings for legal American workers?
What are YOU reading that no one else is?

And why can't you explain your apparent belief that it DOES NOT mean that there are 668,000 jobs that now need to be filled by employers?
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jun 2026, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:38 pm

Where does your article say ANYTHING about the obvious increased number of job openings for legal American workers?
What are YOU reading that no one else is?

And why can't you explain your apparent belief that it DOES NOT mean that there are 668,000 jobs that now need to be filled by employers?

Because it isn't "obvious", in fact it isn't - at all.

The study estimated that between 51,000 and 297,000 of the lost jobs would have been held by American-born workers, as businesses that rely partly on immigrant workers scaled back operations for everyone, including US-born employees.


In the 86 cities that saw the sharpest rise in ICE arrests, they found roughly 13 lost jobs associated with each excess arrest. Industries that traditionally employ a large share of undocumented migrants, like construction, saw the biggest impact. But employment in sectors like arts and entertainment, where few immigrants work, also fell sharply. The authors said that’s because businesses cut staff as people stop going out when ICE raids dominate the news.

“Enforcement at this scale and speed — visible, shocking, designed to produce fear beyond the directly targeted population — destroys jobs, disrupts businesses that Americans own and run, and depresses the local economies in which Americans live and work,” Marcela Escobari, Ian Seyal and Paul Beach wrote in the report.
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm

Because it isn't "obvious", in fact it isn't - at all.

The study estimated that between 51,000 and 297,000 of the lost jobs would have been held by American-born workers, as businesses that rely partly on immigrant workers scaled back operations for everyone, including US-born employees.

In the 86 cities that saw the sharpest rise in ICE arrests, they found roughly 13 lost jobs associated with each excess arrest. Industries that traditionally employ a large share of undocumented migrants, like construction, saw the biggest impact. But employment in sectors like arts and entertainment, where few immigrants work, also fell sharply. The authors said that’s because businesses cut staff as people stop going out when ICE raids dominate the news.

“Enforcement at this scale and speed — visible, shocking, designed to produce fear beyond the directly targeted population — destroys jobs, disrupts businesses that Americans own and run, and depresses the local economies in which Americans live and work,” Marcela Escobari, Ian Seyal and Paul Beach wrote in the report.

Your response DOES NOT say ANYTHING about those jobs now being made available to legal workers, does it?
EVERY JOB that was held by a deported worker IS NOW A JOB OPEN FOR AN AMERICAN!

And it's a totally **** claim, and here's why!
The deportation of a worker DOES NOT DESTROY THE JOB!  The job IS STILL THERE, and all it means is that someone else will be hired to replace that deported worker!

How is it that you're so dumb that you can't understand that?
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm

Given that the article does, I don't see why I need to....unless you can't read.

THEN POST AN ARTICLE NOT BEHIND A PAYWALL, cupcake!!

Oh, that's right, you LOVE hiding behing that **** because you can INVENT **** and when called on it, you can RUN!!

So, pumpkin, you lost. Massively lost. Again.

Zeets2 » 11 Jun 2026, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 2:09 pm

Your response DOES NOT say ANYTHING about those jobs now being made available to legal workers, does it?
EVERY JOB that was held by a deported worker IS NOW A JOB OPEN FOR AN AMERICAN!

And it's a totally **** claim, and here's why!
The deportation of a worker DOES NOT DESTROY THE JOB!  The job IS STILL THERE, and all it means is that someone else will be hired to replace that deported worker!

How is it that you're so dumb that you can't understand that?

Yeah, @Blackvegetable   really IS that **** stupid.

Tell us, cupcake, are REPLACEMENT WORKERS hired to fill jobs of DEPORTED ILLEGAL CRIMINALS??

Oh, and they ARE a criminal the second the step foot on the soil of this nation WITHOUT proper authorization to do so!!

Sucks for you, huh PUMPKIN!!            

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm

Because it isn't "obvious", in fact it isn't - at all.

The study estimated that between 51,000 and 297,000 of the lost jobs would have been held by American-born workers, as businesses that rely partly on immigrant workers scaled back operations for everyone, including US-born employees.

In the 86 cities that saw the sharpest rise in ICE arrests, they found roughly 13 lost jobs associated with each excess arrest. Industries that traditionally employ a large share of undocumented migrants, like construction, saw the biggest impact. But employment in sectors like arts and entertainment, where few immigrants work, also fell sharply. The authors said that’s because businesses cut staff as people stop going out when ICE raids dominate the news.

“Enforcement at this scale and speed — visible, shocking, designed to produce fear beyond the directly targeted population — destroys jobs, disrupts businesses that Americans own and run, and depresses the local economies in which Americans live and work,” Marcela Escobari, Ian Seyal and Paul Beach wrote in the report.

Whatever you say, CUPCAKE!!

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Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm

Because it isn't "obvious", in fact it isn't - at all.

The study estimated that between 51,000 and 297,000 of the lost jobs would have been held by American-born workers, as businesses that rely partly on immigrant workers scaled back operations for everyone, including US-born employees.

In the 86 cities that saw the sharpest rise in ICE arrests, they found roughly 13 lost jobs associated with each excess arrest. Industries that traditionally employ a large share of undocumented migrants, like construction, saw the biggest impact. But employment in sectors like arts and entertainment, where few immigrants work, also fell sharply. The authors said that’s because businesses cut staff as people stop going out when ICE raids dominate the news.

“Enforcement at this scale and speed — visible, shocking, designed to produce fear beyond the directly targeted population — destroys jobs, disrupts businesses that Americans own and run, and depresses the local economies in which Americans live and work,” Marcela Escobari, Ian Seyal and Paul Beach wrote in the report.

Well, CUPCAKE, there's ONE tiny little PROBLEM with your claim here.

ILLEGALS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE and EMPLOYERS WHO HIRE THEM ARE SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION!!

Under the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), employers face criminal liability if they engage in a "pattern or practice" of knowingly hiring or continuing to employ unauthorized workers.

• Jail Time: Up to six months in prison.
• Criminal Fines: Up to $3,000 for each unauthorized alien.
• Smuggling and Harboring: Hiring 10 or more unauthorized immigrants in a 12-month period with knowledge that they were brought into the U.S. illegally carries a felony penalty of up to 5 years in prison.

Civil Penalties
For isolated or first-time offenses where a pattern cannot be proven, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) levy civil fines.

• Knowing Violations: Scaled fines ranging from hundreds to tens of thousands of dollars per worker based on prior offenses.
• Paperwork Failures: Missing or incorrectly filled Form I-9 compliance documents result in separate fines per individual, even if the worker is legally authorized.

 
 

MR-7 » 11 Jun 2026, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 11:57 am

You can't prove me wrong about inflation being 8% under your "daddy" biden.

Biden helped mitigate the global crisis of the global pandemic and supply disruptions and the impacts of the opening of the war in Ukraine.

You can't prove to me Trump has done anything to help Americans. The increased tax return is wiped out by inflation and gas through the roof.

2 out of 3 Republicans polled said **** that UFC Fight and his dumb **** birthday party. It's supposed to rain.  Everything he does turns to ****.

Someone has Round Up'd 8647 in the National Mall for all to see who fly in or go to the top of the Washington Monument. 8647 has been declared free speech and there is nothing you can do about it. Except for maybe green paint.

This morning it was end of civilization and storm Kharg Island, this afternoon we are a few days away from a deal for the 40th time.   His handling of the reminds me Black Vegetable ping pong.  Except he pings and Iran comes back and says there is no pong. Five US bases have been attacked in response to our defensive "incursion" to protect ourselves from the completely decimated and obliterated military that evidently may have attacked water infrastructure

Your man is hated, his approval is dropping like an asteroid on the dinosaurs that he represents. It is very hard for anyone to be conncerned about him, but he is old, demented, and needs an 86 solution (an out) for the good of the humanity. Trump is a clear and present danger to the entire planet.   Maybe he can dissapear like an ET Scientist and escape to exile on their new Albanian Island.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 7:30 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 7:30 am

So **** g'ddammned stupid..

The Trump administration’s immigration surge into US cities last year resulted in 668,000 job losses, creating a “chilling effect” that pervaded local economies, hurt businesses and affected American-born workers.

Industries that traditionally employ a large share of undocumented migrants saw the biggest impact, but employment in sectors like arts and entertainment also fell sharply as businesses cut staff due to decreased consumer activity.

The study estimated that between 51,000 and 297,000 of the lost jobs would have been held by American-born workers, as businesses that rely partly on immigrant workers scaled back operations for everyone, including US-born employees.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... eport-says

if you take the average of the estimates, Grafty DESTROYED as many jobs as the economy generated in 2025...

America can never be great until we turn the Stupid into fertilizer...

When the outside number is six times greater than the inside number, the level of certainty is outpaced by the level of agenda-orientation.
 

MR-7 » 11 Jun 2026, 7:52 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 7:52 am

I’m perfectly fine with it. Truly. If ICE raids make half the country’s job market implode, that’s great, because it sure as hell doesn’t touch me. My bills are paid, my life is stable, and my income isn’t hanging by a thread because someone’s cousin got deported. If anything, I’m just sitting here watching Slack Jaws panic. So yeah...I’m good. And people who have a problem...well, they should talk with their therapist. I’ll be over here, unaffected, hydrated, and minding my own **** business.

As one of the people who pay for your panties and pastries, I am greatly relieved to learn that you're still gonna be okay.
 

Beekeeper » 11 Jun 2026, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 2:51 pm

Well, CUPCAKE, there's ONE tiny little PROBLEM with your claim here.


 

:die:  

Cannonpointer » 11 Jun 2026, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 3:49 pm

When the outside number is six times greater than the inside number, the level of certainty is outpaced by the level of agenda-orientation.

When your working with Grifty's Numbers it all gets MAGAmethically mystEARious.

I lost my job that I wanted to ride out.. I found out yesterday the control division that was succesful for fifty plus years is gone by the end of the year.  The big league team in  PA  that ate us up has not had a sale in two months.

Our agenda is orienting to staycations and low cost fun for the summer.  I find it hard to believe you have no one personally in your circle feeling the mushroom pickle tickle in their wallets.
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jun 2026, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2026, 3:53 pm

Awww, What's the matter CUPCAKE???

Did your little NARRATIVE get massive blown to tiny little pieces inside of ONE POST??

Sucks, huh, that I PWN YOU on every topic you TRY to make some issue out of. The facts are simple- YOUR TDS is massive, a definite mental illness, and something you REALLY need to seek help for.

Now, PUMPKIN, you run along and take your *** KICKING like the little 2 year old you really are!!