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ConservativeWave » 20 Jun 2026, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 3:58 pm

DEMOCRAT HOMOS WEARING Dirty TRUMP Diapers on their FACES ?

BOY, You Lib-TARDS got some pretty DISGUSTING "tendencies" !!!

Cannonpointer » 13 Jun 2026, 9:52 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2026, 9:52 pm

What do you know about the kurds' history?

What do you know about the kurds' history with Trump, specifically?

What do you think would have been the outcome for the kurds, if they had joined Trump's aggression against Iran?

same thing as before, trump would screw them over. On of the reasons they did not help trump this time.

Cannonpointer » 13 Jun 2026, 9:52 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2026, 9:52 pm

What do you know about the kurds' history?

What do you know about the kurds' history with Trump, specifically?

What do you think would have been the outcome for the kurds, if they had joined Trump's aggression against Iran?

a classic example of inventing a lie.
 

jerrab » 20 Jun 2026, 4:48 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 4:48 pm

same thing as before, trump would screw them over. On of the reasons they did not help trump this time.

It's not trump who screws the kurds. Their HISTORY screws the kurds - no matter who they deal with.

The kurds were pastoral wanderers - herdsmen - at the time when national borders were being drawn. They waved that **** off - they just wanted to tend their herds and flocks. And now, they are stateless, and they are no longer allowed to traipse through other people's countries. So they want their own - an ethno-state. 

And you likely have some sympathy for their predicament - as I do. But YOU having that sympathy is different than ME having it. It does not make me a hypocrite. 

If you are honest with yourself, you will confront the fact that white people wanting an ethno-state would encounter your opposition, where goat herders wanting it garners your sympathy. 

Anyway, Trump never screwed any kurds. He's not the one who okey-doked them, armed them, empowered them to **** with erdogan. All Trump did was get out of Turkey's way.

Turkey is that country just next door to europe that we are co-members of NATO with - that country where we have nukes parked. They rank slightly above stateless wanderers. 

The kurds were proxies, hired for their availability and proximity. The Turks are members of the biggest military alliance on earth, which we head up.

Grown people can read that room from a mile away. Blaming Trump for THAT is just tds, when there's so much legitimate material. It shows poor prioritization of outrage. 

All of that said, yeah. Kurds ain't likely to trust Trump. They clearly don't trust bibi. 
 

jerrab » 20 Jun 2026, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 4:51 pm

Cannonpointer » 13 Jun 2026, 9:52 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2026, 9:52 pm

What do you know about the kurds' history?

What do you know about the kurds' history with Trump, specifically?

What do you think would have been the outcome for the kurds, if they had joined Trump's aggression against Iran?

a classic example of inventing a lie.

Wut dat MEAN?

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2026, 11:31 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 11:31 pm

It's not trump who screws the kurds. Their HISTORY screws the kurds - no matter who they deal with.

The kurds were pastoral wanderers - herdsmen - at the time when national borders were being drawn. They waved that **** off - they just wanted to tend their herds and flocks. And now, they are stateless, and they are no longer allowed to traipse through other people's countries. So they want their own - an ethno-state. 

And you likely have some sympathy for their predicament - as I do. But YOU having that sympathy is different than ME having it. It does not make me a hypocrite. 

If you are honest with yourself, you will confront the fact that white people wanting an ethno-state would encounter your opposition, where goat herders wanting it garners your sympathy. 

Anyway, Trump never screwed any kurds. He's not the one who okey-doked them, armed them, empowered them to **** with erdogan. All Trump did was get out of Turkey's way.

Turkey is that country just next door to europe that we are co-members of NATO with - that country where we have nukes parked. They rank slightly above stateless wanderers. 

The kurds were proxies, hired for their availability and proximity. The Turks are members of the biggest military alliance on earth, which we head up.

Grown people can read that room from a mile away. Blaming Trump for THAT is just tds, when there's so much legitimate material. It shows poor prioritization of outrage. 

All of that said, yeah. Kurds ain't likely to trust Trump. They clearly don't trust bibi.

Trump could have given them two weeks to relocate. 

jerrab » 21 Jun 2026, 11:48 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 11:48 pm

Trump could have given them two weeks to relocate.

Relocate where? They're stateless, remember?

I wasn't there and I doubt that you were, but my understanding (not a hill I'm willing to die on - but my understanding) is that the Turks we upon their prey and Trump told our military to get out from between them.

I don't know how versed you are on the matter, but there are LOT AND LOTS of kurdish militant groups. Not all and not the majority, but SOME of those groups have been listed as terror groups by our ally Turkey.

It was one such group that we were in Turkey's way of nailing. The correct move was written in the sand - and followed by the orange. 

The fact that Obama armed terror groups on a NATO ally's border makes one doubt he was truly only half-rican. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2026, 11:58 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 11:58 pm

Relocate where? They're stateless, remember?

I wasn't there and I doubt that you were, but my understanding (not a hill I'm willing to die on - but my understanding) is that the Turks we upon their prey and Trump told our military to get out from between them.

I don't know how versed you are on the matter, but there are LOT AND LOTS of kurdish militant groups. Not all and not the majority, but SOME of those groups have been listed as terror groups by our ally Turkey.

It was one such group that we were in Turkey's way of nailing. The correct move was written in the sand - and followed by the orange. 

The fact that Obama armed terror groups on a NATO ally's border makes one doubt he was truly only half-rican.

not the ones in Syria who were only fighting and defeating isis, the group who were going around beheading people

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 12:11 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 12:11 am

not the ones in Syria who were only fighting and defeating isis, the group who were going around beheading people

IF the ones in Syria really WERE fighting ISIS, then they needed to die. 

We WON in Syria, you know. You get that, right? That we won? You UNDERSTAND that the Russians lost, the yanks won, and Bashar al Assad was deposed, yes? He fled the country and was replaced by the "moderate" rebels - yeah?

I just want us on the same page for the big reveal. We won. The Russians lost. Regime change occurred.

Today, the fine gentleman running Syria is Ahmed al-Sharaa. He was the head of the al-Qaeda-affiliated group Jabhat al-Nusra forces fighting WITH THE AMERICANS TO TOPPLE AL ASSAD. Before that, he fought alongside ISIS in Iraq. Trump hails him as a fine fellow - even hosted him at the white house.

So here is the problem. We have an intelligent fellow who understands what the **** is happening over there, trying to explain the kurdish problem to someone who doesn't even comprehend that ISIS (like a dozen of its doppelgangers) is a US proxy created, funded, trained, supplied, and assisted by the United States government to produce the results we are interested in. Just try to explain to yourself why ISIS has never moved against Israel - or why both Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post reported that the IDF was triaging and rearming ISIS fighters who were wounded by Syrian government forces.

So if the Kurds really WERE attacking ISIS as you have been instructed to believe, then they DOUBLE-DOG needed killing - if not by the Turks than by the US forces in the area.

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 2:55 pm

IF the ones in Syria really WERE fighting ISIS, then they needed to die. 

We WON in Syria, you know. You get that, right? That we won? You UNDERSTAND that the Russians lost, the yanks won, and Bashar al Assad was deposed, yes? He fled the country and was replaced by the "moderate" rebels - yeah?

I just want us on the same page for the big reveal. We won. The Russians lost. Regime change occurred.

Today, the fine gentleman running Syria is Ahmed al-Sharaa. He was the head of the al-Qaeda-affiliated group Jabhat al-Nusra forces fighting WITH THE AMERICANS TO TOPPLE AL ASSAD. Before that, he fought alongside ISIS in Iraq. Trump hails him as a fine fellow - even hosted him at the white house.

So here is the problem. We have an intelligent fellow who understands what the **** is happening over there, trying to explain the kurdish problem to someone who doesn't even comprehend that ISIS (like a dozen of its doppelgangers) is a US proxy created, funded, trained, supplied, and assisted by the United States government to produce the results we are interested in. Just try to explain to yourself why ISIS has never moved against Israel - or why both Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post reported that the IDF was triaging and rearming ISIS fighters who were wounded by Syrian government forces.

So if the Kurds really WERE attacking ISIS as you have been instructed to believe, then they DOUBLE-DOG needed killing - if not by the Turks than by the US forces in the area.

Isis was separate from the rebels in Syria, they took advantage of the chaos. Assad had no problem with the Kurds fighting isis.

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:09 pm

Isis was separate from the rebels in Syria, they took advantage of the chaos. Assad had no problem with the Kurds fighting isis.

If Assad had no problem with it, then how do you suppose Assad's enemies felt about it?

Ya think Assad and the US were on the same page, do ya?
 
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:14 pm

If Assad had no problem with it, then how do you suppose Assad's enemies felt about it?

Ya think Assad and the US were on the same page, do ya?

When it came to isis, yes, isis was and is a terrible group

--------When Syria descended into civil war, the jihadists took advantage of the chaos there, moving over the border to set up ISIS. ISIS have a radical jihadist ideology. They want to resurrect the Islamic caliphate that first emerged in the 7th century.--------

 
 

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 3:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:31 pm

When it came to isis, yes, isis was and is a terrible group

--------When Syria descended into civil war, the jihadists took advantage of the chaos there, moving over the border to set up ISIS.

Who built their trucks?
Who armed them?
Who provided hospitals when they were wounded?
Who provided safe places behind the lines for their wives and kids?
Who gave them intel? Fresh ammunition after every battle?
Who provided their banking system so that they could pay their fighters?
Who gave them the gasoline to move their trucks and equipment?

Are you aware that in any society, SOMEONE has to produce the goods that society needs? Who were their farmers? Mechanics? Where did they get their water? Their spare parts? Their new tires?

You seem perfectly capable of googling up **** about ISIS. Google THAT **** - tell me what you find. Try to find something that kinda makes sense, and doesn't sound slightly retarded. Something that explains how a bunch of crzed religious zealots can create an "Islamic State" with the no factories, no farms, no safe spaces, and the ENTIRE **** WORLD trying to stop them. Tell me how such a group can prevail for many years against THE **** EARTH. 

 
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:43 pm

Who built their trucks?
Who armed them?
Who provided hospitals when they were wounded?
Who provided safe places behind the lines for their wives and kids?
Who gave them intel? Fresh ammunition after every battle?
Who provided their banking system so that they could pay their fighters?
Who gave them the gasoline to move their trucks and equipment?

Are you aware that in any society, SOMEONE has to produce the goods that society needs? Who were their farmers? Mechanics? Where did they get their water? Their spare parts? Their new tires?

You seem perfectly capable of googling up **** about ISIS. Google THAT **** - tell me what you find. Try to find something that kinda makes sense, and doesn't sound slightly retarded. Something that explains how a bunch of crzed religious zealots can create an "Islamic State" with the no factories, no farms, no safe spaces, and the ENTIRE **** WORLD trying to stop them. Tell me how such a group can prevail for many years against THE **** EARTH.

___During the height of its territorial control, the Islamic State (ISIS) operated its own health ministry and managed hospitals in key strongholds like Raqqa in Syria and Mosul in Iraq. Because many local health professionals fled, ISIS forcibly conscripted remaining doctors and recruited foreign medical professionals to staff these----

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:43 pm

Who built their trucks?
Who armed them?
Who provided hospitals when they were wounded?
Who provided safe places behind the lines for their wives and kids?
Who gave them intel? Fresh ammunition after every battle?
Who provided their banking system so that they could pay their fighters?
Who gave them the gasoline to move their trucks and equipment?

Are you aware that in any society, SOMEONE has to produce the goods that society needs? Who were their farmers? Mechanics? Where did they get their water? Their spare parts? Their new tires?

You seem perfectly capable of googling up **** about ISIS. Google THAT **** - tell me what you find. Try to find something that kinda makes sense, and doesn't sound slightly retarded. Something that explains how a bunch of crzed religious zealots can create an "Islamic State" with the no factories, no farms, no safe spaces, and the ENTIRE **** WORLD trying to stop them. Tell me how such a group can prevail for many years against THE **** EARTH.

---------he primary sources of this weaponry include:

• Captured Military Stockpiles: The bulk of ISIS’s firepower was seized during early military victories, most notably the capture of Mosul in 2014, where the group took massive quantities of small arms, ammunition, and heavy equipment (such as U.S.-made Humvees). Extensive documentation by Conflict Armament Research showed that Chinese, Russian, and Warsaw Pact-caliber arms accounted for the vast majority of deployed hardware-----------

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:48 pm

___During the height of its territorial control, the Islamic State (ISIS) operated its own health ministry and managed hospitals in key strongholds like Raqqa in Syria and Mosul in Iraq. Because many local health professionals fled, ISIS forcibly conscripted remaining doctors and recruited foreign medical professionals to staff these----

-----ISIS was extraordinarily difficult to defeat because it operated as a hybrid between a terrorist organization and a conventional army. Its resilience was driven by its ability to govern millions of people, hide within dense civilian populations, adapt to military pressure using guerrilla tactics, and use online propaganda to radicalize a global----
 

ISIS was uniquely difficult to defeat because it operated as a hybrid between a terrorist organization and a conventional military force. It successfully governed millions of people across a vast territory, utilized guerrilla and urban warfare tactics, and relied on a massive influx of international fighters while inspiring global terror networks

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:43 pm

Who built their trucks?
Who armed them?
Who provided hospitals when they were wounded?
Who provided safe places behind the lines for their wives and kids?
Who gave them intel? Fresh ammunition after every battle?
Who provided their banking system so that they could pay their fighters?
Who gave them the gasoline to move their trucks and equipment?

Are you aware that in any society, SOMEONE has to produce the goods that society needs? Who were their farmers? Mechanics? Where did they get their water? Their spare parts? Their new tires?

You seem perfectly capable of googling up **** about ISIS. Google THAT **** - tell me what you find. Try to find something that kinda makes sense, and doesn't sound slightly retarded. Something that explains how a bunch of crzed religious zealots can create an "Islamic State" with the no factories, no farms, no safe spaces, and the ENTIRE **** WORLD trying to stop them. Tell me how such a group can prevail for many years against THE **** EARTH.

-------I------iSIS was difficult to defeat financially because it operated as a self-sustaining, proto-state rather than relying on typical foreign sponsors. Their massive and diverse economic portfolio, vast initial cash reserves, and reliance on underground transactional systems made them exceptionally resilient to disruption


------Massive Initial Windfall: When ISIS seized major Iraqi cities in 2014—including capturing branches of the Iraqi Central Bank in Mosul—it instantly secured an estimated $500 million to $1 billion in cash
 

-------If the Islamic State (ISIS) had not been defeated, it would have established a permanent, hostile "Jihadistan" across Iraq and Syria. This state would have served as a secure, heavily fortified epicenter for the group to inflict widespread regional violence, orchestrate global terror plots, and govern millions through brutal authoritarianism.

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 2:55 pm

IF the ones in Syria really WERE fighting ISIS, then they needed to die. 

We WON in Syria, you know. You get that, right? That we won? You UNDERSTAND that the Russians lost, the yanks won, and Bashar al Assad was deposed, yes? He fled the country and was replaced by the "moderate" rebels - yeah?

I just want us on the same page for the big reveal. We won. The Russians lost. Regime change occurred.

Today, the fine gentleman running Syria is Ahmed al-Sharaa. He was the head of the al-Qaeda-affiliated group Jabhat al-Nusra forces fighting WITH THE AMERICANS TO TOPPLE AL ASSAD. Before that, he fought alongside ISIS in Iraq. Trump hails him as a fine fellow - even hosted him at the white house.

So here is the problem. We have an intelligent fellow who understands what the **** is happening over there, trying to explain the kurdish problem to someone who doesn't even comprehend that ISIS (like a dozen of its doppelgangers) is a US proxy created, funded, trained, supplied, and assisted by the United States government to produce the results we are interested in. Just try to explain to yourself why ISIS has never moved against Israel - or why both Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post reported that the IDF was triaging and rearming ISIS fighters who were wounded by Syrian government forces.

So if the Kurds really WERE attacking ISIS as you have been instructed to believe, then they DOUBLE-DOG needed killing - if not by the Turks than by the US forces in the area.

---------------
Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa (former commander of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham) has presided over a complex, shifting relationship with Syria's Kurdish population. Despite historical conflicts, his administration has attempted to integrate the Kurds and the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) into the newly reunified Syrian state

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 3:51 pm

---------he primary sources of this weaponry include:

• Captured Military Stockpiles: The bulk of ISIS’s firepower was seized during early military victories, most notably the capture of Mosul in 2014, where the group took massive quantities of small arms, ammunition, and heavy equipment (such as U.S.-made Humvees). Extensive documentation by Conflict Armament Research showed that Chinese, Russian, and Warsaw Pact-caliber arms accounted for the vast majority of deployed hardware-----------

Captured military stockpiles will get ya through next week, child. 

Ya know how the US lost in Iraq? It ran out of weapons. 

We're not a ragtag bunch of morons in a desert. We're a hegemon - and we ran out of ammunition. 

Try. Don't try harder, because you haven't tried yet.

Just try.