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jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 4:21 pm

-------I------iSIS was difficult to defeat financially because it operated as a self-sustaining, proto-state rather than relying on typical foreign sponsors. Their massive and diverse economic portfolio, vast initial cash reserves, and reliance on underground transactional systems made them exceptionally resilient to disruption

------Massive Initial Windfall: When ISIS seized major Iraqi cities in 2014—including capturing branches of the Iraqi Central Bank in Mosul—it instantly secured an estimated $500 million to $1 billion in cash

That'll fight Russia and the US COMBINED for a week and a half. 

What happened then?
 

---------------recognition and Rights: In January, President al-Sharaa issued a landmark decree (No. 13) that officially designates Kurdish as a national language alongside Arabic. The decree also makes the spring festival of Nowruz a national holiday and abolishes a 1962 census measure that stripped citizenship from thousands of Syrian Kurds

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm

Captured military stockpiles will get ya through next week, child. 

Ya know how the US lost in Iraq? It ran out of weapons. 

We're not a ragtag bunch of morons in a desert. We're a hegemon - and we ran out of ammunition. 

Try. Don't try harder, because you haven't tried yet.

Just try.

Iraqis abandoned weapons

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm

Captured military stockpiles will get ya through next week, child. 

Ya know how the US lost in Iraq? It ran out of weapons. 

We're not a ragtag bunch of morons in a desert. We're a hegemon - and we ran out of ammunition. 

Try. Don't try harder, because you haven't tried yet.

Just try.

--------------ISIS significantly expanded its military capabilities by capturing massive stockpiles of weaponry and armored vehicles abandoned by the Iraqi Army. This occurred primarily during their rapid territorial expansion across Iraq and Syria, most notably when the city of Mosul fell in June 2014, followed by Ramadi in 2015

-----During his landmark visit to Washington, al-Sharaa officially signed an agreement joining the U.S.-led global alliance to defeat ISIS, transforming Syria into the 90th member of the counterterrorism coalition. In exchange for his commitment to eliminate ISIS cells and maintain regional stability, the United States removed al-Sharaa from its global terrorist blacklist, lifted major sanctions, and authorized the reopening of the Syrian Embassy in Washington

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm

Captured military stockpiles will get ya through next week, child. 

Ya know how the US lost in Iraq? It ran out of weapons. 

We're not a ragtag bunch of morons in a desert. We're a hegemon - and we ran out of ammunition. 

Try. Don't try harder, because you haven't tried yet.

Just try.

the US won the Iraq war

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 12:11 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 12:11 am

not the ones in Syria who were only fighting and defeating isis, the group who were going around beheading people

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• re Attacks and Claims: While rare, ISIS has claimed responsibility for a few isolated or inspired attacks within Israel, such as the 2017 Jerusalem Old City attack. ISIS sympathizers also occasionally carry out or inspire copycat incidents. [1, 2]
• State Operations: Israel takes the threat seriously, outlawing the group and actively monitoring and arresting individuals suspected of supporting or attempting to join ISIS. [1, 2]

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:09 pm

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Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa (former commander of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham) has presided over a complex, shifting relationship with Syria's Kurdish population. Despite historical conflicts, his administration has attempted to integrate the Kurds and the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) into the newly reunified Syrian state

Which dodges the question and reveals the obvious - that guy wants everyone on board: even those who fought against him. But what the kurds WON'T get is an ethno-state. And that's okay. Pretend they are white Europeans, and you will be happy about it. 
 
 

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 5:17 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:17 pm

Iraqis abandoned weapons

That will get the guy that finds it through three minutes of fighting. Then he needs to reload. Who supplies that?
 

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 5:19 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:19 pm

--------------ISIS significantly expanded its military capabilities by capturing massive stockpiles of weaponry and armored vehicles abandoned by the Iraqi Army.

Almost like they were given those weapons and stockpiles. Huh.

They sure are lucky.

Now, tell me, did the Iraqis have enough stockpiles to make ISIS a credible threat to the United States and Russia? Because that is who they stood off - allegedly. The US was pretending to try to kill them.

It's IS your thesis that ISIS was fighting EVERYONE, right? Has NO allies, only enemies - right?

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 5:43 pm

the US won the Iraq war

So the US owns the results of that war - one of which was the formation of ISIS.

Which is a US proxy. 
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 6:20 pm

So the US owns the results of that war - one of which was the formation of ISIS.

Which is a US proxy.

-----------the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is not a US proxy. The United States officially considers ISIS a foreign terrorist organization and led a global international coalition dedicated to defeating the group and eliminating its territorial caliphate

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 6:54 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 6:54 pm

-----------the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is not a US proxy. The United States officially considers ISIS

Proxies are unofficial, you poor thing. 

Iran OFFICIALLY doesn't even send hezbollah "Happy Eid Al-Adha" cards. 

Unofficially is a different matter. 

I will challenge you AGAIN to explain why ISIS has never once so much as spoken a rude word to Israel. 

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 6:56 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 6:56 pm

Proxies are unofficial, you poor thing. 

Iran OFFICIALLY doesn't even send hezbollah "Happy Eid Al-Adha" cards. 

Unofficially is a different matter. 

I will challenge you AGAIN to explain why ISIS has never once so much as spoken a rude word to Israel.

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While rare, ISIS has claimed responsibility for a few isolated or inspired attacks within Israel, such as the 2017 Jerusalem Old City attack. 

jerrab » 22 Jun 2026, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 8:49 pm

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While rare, ISIS has claimed responsibility for a few isolated or inspired attacks within Israel, such as the 2017 Jerusalem Old City attack.

Cosmetic horse ****, of course, in response to people pointing to the complete lack of enmity between israel and ISIS. Gotta pose for the cameras.

Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post both reported that the IDF was patching up and rearming ISIS fighters during the murder of the nation of Syria. If ISIS were not an israeli asset, it would not be treated as one. 

You seem a bit gaslighted by israel yourself. I guess you think israel doesn't have any proxies - only muslims have proxies. 

Al Qaeda and every doppelganger (Isis, Isil, al Nusra Front, etc., are all USA/Israel-funded terror groups. Killin the queers was done on your tax dollars.
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 6:20 pm

So the US owns the results of that war - one of which was the formation of ISIS.

Which is a US proxy.

Barack Obama CREATED ISIS, and THEY THOUGHT the would take over the middle east... UNTIL Donald Trump essentially EXTERMINATED them... 

So... ISIS is a US Proxy?  Does ISIS even EXIST any longer?  Seems NOW the acronyms are HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, & Houthi's... which REPLACED ISIS, which REPLACED the PLA... ?

ISIS might have been an OBAMA proxy... until they PISSED OFF Donald Trump (2026)... and THAT was the end of THEM !!

ConservativeWave » 23 Jun 2026, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2026, 11:43 am

Barack Obama CREATED ISIS,

It was bush, dummy. But Obama certainly fed and nurtured.

Now, stop with the racism.

Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2026, 10:44 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2026, 10:44 pm

Cosmetic horse ****, of course, in response to people pointing to the complete lack of enmity between israel and ISIS. Gotta pose for the cameras.

Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post both reported that the IDF was patching up and rearming ISIS fighters during the murder of the nation of Syria. If ISIS were not an israeli asset, it would not be treated as one. 

You seem a bit gaslighted by israel yourself. I guess you think israel doesn't have any proxies - only muslims have proxies. 

Al Qaeda and every doppelganger (Isis, Isil, al Nusra Front, etc., are all USA/Israel-funded terror groups. Killin the queers was done on your tax dollars.

Anything is possible with the jews, they think they are God's chosen people and infallible

Cannonpointer » 23 Jun 2026, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2026, 12:36 pm

It was bush, dummy. But Obama certainly fed and nurtured.

Now, stop with the racism.

NOT REALLY... ISIS had bounced around in the area, under different names, and PROBABLY started being known as ISIS in about 2007 (under Busch), & JUST Before Obama was elected... BUT, NO ONE had EVER heard of them... WHAT REALLY CREATED ISIS was when Obama pulled America out of Iraq in 2011, and LEFT a power vacuum of there... IT WAS THEN, that ISIS started TAKING OVER Iraq, Obama did NOTHING, and by 2016 it looked like they WOULD... Until Trump came in (2017) and ENDED THEM !!

RACISM?  NO... I'm not about "Racism"... but I AM about the TRUTH, and the FACTS !  ISIS would have NEVER arose to the level they did if Obama had NOT left Iraq like he did, and so, Obama gets the LEGITIMATE BLAME... NOT because of Racism, BUT, BECAUSE it's TRUE !!

Blackvegetable » 20 Jun 2026, 4:37 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 4:37 pm

**** *******.

YOU MEAN ACCURATE, HONEST, and TRUTHFUL... "**** *******"?

I can TAKE that !!