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Beekeeper » 18 Jun 2026, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2026, 5:04 pm

Ok, cupcake, whatever you say!!

Even though EVERYONE can see what you are and how WRONG you are on pretty much every point!!

 

"pretty much" every point.   

What a BRILLIANT refutation. You really took me to the woodshed, grampaw.      

Cannonpointer » 18 Jun 2026, 8:40 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2026, 8:40 pm

"pretty much" every point.   

What a BRILLIANT refutation. You really took me to the woodshed, grampaw.    

It looks like Trump was taken to the cleaners by the reflecting pool contractors..   We probably could have done a better job for half the price in  half the time if we joined forces CP.  I have maintained pools for 15 years here and I finally figured out phosphate was screwing up tthe chemistry.  

This is not going reflect well on America...  I am sure we are going to hear the algea was leaked from a Wuhan Lab and it it has the ability to make industrial coatings peel off.  How much **** Hydrogen Peroxide did they dump in the bytch? Trump has declared emergency powwers to solve this crisis.  I should take a sign down and hang out that says "Will work on pools for Billions"

https://youtube.com/shorts/bXoJzx8oK6A? ... 6cJOYg-vzM
 
 
 

When Trump got to the woodshed all the Mullahs were dead

Raytheon makers of the Mullah Mauler 5000 XLT with Report

nefarious101 » 19 Jun 2026, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 11:49 am

When Trump got to the woodshed all the Mullahs were dead

Raytheon makers of the Mullah Mauler 5000 XLT with Report

There were enough of them left to get Iran back into the swift system, have all sanctions removed, and settle bibi's gravy back into its tiny bowl, fruit of the loom.     
 
 

Fuelman » 18 Jun 2026, 4:06 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2026, 4:06 pm

60 days from now the final text in the deal will not be the same as MOU.

Strange, the forum Islamist supporters don't like the deal?

Israel is already leashed - as is hezbollah. 60 days from now, Iran will have 100% sanctions relief, respect for its security, the right to engage in free trade, and the right to give israel a good kick if it dares to raise its voice without the US backing it. It's going to get no less than 300 billion in reparations. Those parts of the MOU are no more negotiable than are the parts dealing with nuclear materials. 

In fact, LESS so. The MOU acknowledges that Iran has a legitimate need for enriched uranium. Not weapons grade - they've never been accused of possessing weapons grade uranium. But enriched - which means 20% or above. So the parts dealing with enriched uranium are negotiable. The parts dealing with sanctions relief and respect for Iran's sovereignty are not. 

I imagine that you consider me one of those "forum Islamist supporters". Please accept my assurance that the MOU gives me wood.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jun 2026, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 9:04 pm

There were enough of them left to get Iran back into the swift system, have all sanctions removed, and settle bibi's gravy back into its tiny bowl, fruit of the loom.   

As reported by CNNLOL SAYS

we all have the internet.....not just you


 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2026, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2026, 2:02 pm

The agreement gives the US the following: 

1. Antebellum status quo for the strait of hormuz (60 days only) - something we already had before the war. But there is a proviso - Iran and Oman and possibly others will, within a short period after the end of hostilities, begin charging passage through the strait. So - a bit less than what we had before Iran defeated us. 

2. IAEA Inspections on the same order as the Obama agreement that Trump withdrew from. We already had this.

3. The guaranteed dissolution in situ or removal of Iran's enriched (not weapons grade) uranium. Iran has no weapons grade uranium. Never did. 

That's it. That's what we get.

Now let's look at what the Mullahs get.

1. The US agrees to cease and desist internal manipulations of Iran's politics - no more espionage aimed at coups and regime change.

2. 300 Billion dollars from the aggressor nations in reparations - which the MOU discreetly refers to as a "reconstruction and economic development fund." Reparations, my ******. 

3. The immediate cessation of ALL sanctions upon signing, including sanctions issued by the IAEA, UN, and US. 

4. Iran is back in the SWIFT system, able to trade in US dollars without having those dollars "frozen." It's oil will be on the global market immediately, with no financial, military or political sanctions against Iran's free trade.

5. The immediate unfreezing of all Iranian assets.

6. Trump has to make bibi stop bombing Lebanon.

7. The immediate removal of the US blockade.

8. After 60 days of no-fee passage through the strait, Iran and Oman are free to consult on a scheme to charge a fee for all cargo passing through the strait - something Iran did not have before it was aggressed. 

9. Talks will be held and agreements made between the US and Iran for the enriching of some uranium beyond the 20% mark at which it is considered "highly enriched" based on Iran's legitimate need for this uranium in civilian uses. The current stockpile at 60% purity is NOT WEAPONS GRADE, but it will be blended down. During the blending down, agreements will be arrived at regarding how much enriched uranium Iran needs and why. 

The MOU is written in plain english - you can read it for yourself: https://time.com/article/2026/06/17/us- ... raft-text/

 Trump’s Fears About Economy Undercut US Leverage in Iran Talks

President Donald Trump said the prospect of global economic collapse was a big reason he signed an interim peace deal with Iran. That admission exposes a key US weakness heading into the next round of talks with Tehran.

less than 4 weeks, the US Oil reserves will be dry   

I **** love it.
 
 

*Roshambo » 20 Jun 2026, 4:05 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 4:05 pm

 Trump’s Fears About Economy Undercut US Leverage in Iran Talks

President Donald Trump said the prospect of global economic collapse was a big reason he signed an interim peace deal with Iran. That admission exposes a key US weakness heading into the next round of talks with Tehran.

less than 4 weeks, the US Oil reserves will be dry   

I **** love it.

Too bad you didn't have the cock-gobbler negotiating for you, you'd love having a peer representing your side of the glory hole.

RebelGator » 20 Jun 2026, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 4:11 pm

Too bad you didn't have the cock-gobbler negotiating for you, you'd love having a peer representing your side of the glory hole.

It is unfortunate that you are unaware of the identity of your biological father; I would suggest that you punch him in his face.      
"Art of the Deal" you really are one dumb mother ****.         
 
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2026, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2026, 2:02 pm

The agreement gives the US the following: 

1. Antebellum status quo for the strait of hormuz (60 days only) - something we already had before the war. But there is a proviso - Iran and Oman and possibly others will, within a short period after the end of hostilities, begin charging passage through the strait. So - a bit less than what we had before Iran defeated us. 

2. IAEA Inspections on the same order as the Obama agreement that Trump withdrew from. We already had this.

3. The guaranteed dissolution in situ or removal of Iran's enriched (not weapons grade) uranium. Iran has no weapons grade uranium. Never did. 

That's it. That's what we get.

Now let's look at what the Mullahs get.

1. The US agrees to cease and desist internal manipulations of Iran's politics - no more espionage aimed at coups and regime change.

2. 300 Billion dollars from the aggressor nations in reparations - which the MOU discreetly refers to as a "reconstruction and economic development fund." Reparations, my ******. 

3. The immediate cessation of ALL sanctions upon signing, including sanctions issued by the IAEA, UN, and US. 

4. Iran is back in the SWIFT system, able to trade in US dollars without having those dollars "frozen." It's oil will be on the global market immediately, with no financial, military or political sanctions against Iran's free trade.

5. The immediate unfreezing of all Iranian assets.

6. Trump has to make bibi stop bombing Lebanon.

7. The immediate removal of the US blockade.

8. After 60 days of no-fee passage through the strait, Iran and Oman are free to consult on a scheme to charge a fee for all cargo passing through the strait - something Iran did not have before it was aggressed. 

9. Talks will be held and agreements made between the US and Iran for the enriching of some uranium beyond the 20% mark at which it is considered "highly enriched" based on Iran's legitimate need for this uranium in civilian uses. The current stockpile at 60% purity is NOT WEAPONS GRADE, but it will be blended down. During the blending down, agreements will be arrived at regarding how much enriched uranium Iran needs and why. 

The MOU is written in plain english - you can read it for yourself: https://time.com/article/2026/06/17/us- ... raft-text/

Well, this is stupid.  Obama's "deal" no longer exists. 
Not because Trump tore it up, but because it expired.
And Obama's deal ALLOWED Iran to enrich uranium and process heavy water after the deal expired.
Additionally, the IAEA said for YEARS that Iran was enriching and Obama did NOTHING about it.
They have no Navy or Airforce. We can do anything we want to them, at any time. 

Trump ended Iran's nuclear ambitions. No enrichment, no purchasing, no acquiring of any kind. 
Turns out all you need is a president with a spine that is willing to bomb them into submission.
 

Cannonpointer » 19 Jun 2026, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 9:18 pm

Israel is already leashed - as is hezbollah. 60 days from now, Iran will have 100% sanctions relief, respect for its security, the right to engage in free trade, and the right to give israel a good kick if it dares to raise its voice without the US backing it. It's going to get no less than 300 billion in reparations. Those parts of the MOU are no more negotiable than are the parts dealing with nuclear materials. 

In fact, LESS so. The MOU acknowledges that Iran has a legitimate need for enriched uranium. Not weapons grade - they've never been accused of possessing weapons grade uranium. But enriched - which means 20% or above. So the parts dealing with enriched uranium are negotiable. The parts dealing with sanctions relief and respect for Iran's sovereignty are not. 

I imagine that you consider me one of those "forum Islamist supporters". Please accept my assurance that the MOU gives me wood.

Wrong.  There is no acknowledgement that Iran has any need for uranium enrichment. Only that it will be discussed. 

Paragraph 8:
8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down blended on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned. They express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.


They sit on one of the world's largest oil reserves? Why would they need nuclear power? 
And even if it's agreed, Trump has previously offered to supply any needed nuclear rods for power generation, and that we would remove the expended rods. 
It would make sense that any agreement would be based on this same premise, eliminating any need for enrichment.
 

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:19 pm

Wrong.  There is no acknowledgement that Iran has any need for uranium enrichment. Only that it will be discussed. 

Paragraph 8:
8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down blended on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned. They express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

They sit on one of the world's largest oil reserves? Why would they need nuclear power? 
And even if it's agreed, Trump has previously offered to supply any needed nuclear rods for power generation, and that we would remove the expended rods. 
It would make sense that any agreement would be based on this same premise, eliminating any need for enrichment.

Thank you for making sure the nuclear dust is in a safe space.

Ballistic Missiles?

Johnny You » 20 Jun 2026, 8:26 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:26 pm

Thank you for making sure the nuclear dust is in a safe space.

Ballistic Missiles?

Shame your mind cannot distinguish between factual time lived since birth and actual time evolving since conceived. Kind of like basing calendar dates 1461 times on Northern hemisphere's winter solstice because even in this decade of 2020's there is still 87% of human population living north of the equator and 82%. between longitudes international dateline and Greenwich Prime Meridian covers 5 of the the 7 continents each rotation of the planet.

Only north and south American continents are west of Africa, Asia, Australia, Antarctica, and some of Europe. Dawn to dusk is 2 corners of each rotation as are noon and midnight regardless north or south of the equator. Opposite attract same polar opposites never meet in motion of existing universally as specifically here now evolving is motion in personal time here. Males aren't females unless asexual results as single cell, mostly plants have both male and female reproductive organs while mammals in the primate category, don't.

Get real because your(Each intellectual reality including the one my relative ancestry chose) reality corrupts every ancestor serving humanity misinforming each generation added one ancestor at a time daily here.

Did I mention before the latitudes of climate change between equator and each polar axis every 1460 rotation that happen between two winter solstices occurring each revolution around the star same number of rotations all the time. Longitudes constitute time zone mentality each rotation of the planet people use factually 24/7 to believe life exceeds time adapting in series parallel conditions of existing so far.

History misleads everyone in current events by intellectual design.

the concept of a leap year every 4 years is misinformation about actual evolving since conception. Secrets leaderships don't teach fellowships believing life isn't self evident time adapting in plain sight daily here.

Eternal live evolves with details never same results gain balancing as a whole regardless the geographical location in the moment living here now. Kinetic specific gravity of anything of substance moving as dis[placed here now and no where else possible.

Unique vs always evolving into never same total sum twice, Karma balancing out behavior of all parts existing universally forward one result at a time, here.

thermodynamic principles of physical things moving regardless gaseous, liquid, mineral forms or combination of the three regardless molecular or cellular.

What can exist does balance forward as displaced so far behaving exactly as history recorded humans performing new world order franchise of we believe life exceeds time adapting since conception.

All facts are based on time alive after birth. Social identity, race, creed, color, national pride, global faith humans are exempt from actual time adapting forward now because what people believe possible matters more than how living actually exists now.


Might makes right and all left alive tomorrow believe in building better tomorrows without understanding current events inside out matters more than understanding actual time lived since arrived genetically here as an ever changing total sum result uniquely added ancestrally so far.

Being equal requires being honest in your own brain as social minds never accept which ancestral lineage added them into inhabiting space now.

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm

Well, this is stupid.  Obama's "deal" no longer exists. 
Not because Trump tore it up, but because it expired.
And Obama's deal ALLOWED Iran to enrich uranium and process heavy water after the deal expired.
Additionally, the IAEA said for YEARS that Iran was enriching and Obama did NOTHING about it.
They have no Navy or Airforce. We can do anything we want to them, at any time. 

Trump ended Iran's nuclear ambitions. No enrichment, no purchasing, no acquiring of any kind. 
Turns out all you need is a president with a spine that is willing to bomb them into submission.

change your name to MIGABoy
excuse me..

The Iran Nuclear Deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), reached its scheduled "Termination Day" and expired on October 18, 2025. This 10-year expiration officially terminated the United Nations Security Council resolution endorsing the deal and ended all remaining nuclear-related restrictions and sanctions.

Although the original agreement set a 10-year sunset clause, the United States had already unilaterally withdrawn from the pact during the Trump administration in May 2018. However, the remaining international parties continued to adhere to the time.

How **** stupid are you to support Trump knowing Obama had Iran under control along with 6 other nations including Russia. The JCPOA had inspectors on the ground along with provisions for further negotiations. Then in 2018 trump tore up the agreement because it was an Obama deal... flat out narcissism.

Now the fraud is costing America. The first 118 days alone cost $113.3 billion in completely unnecessary spending.

This is my problem with Trump and this administration. It is NOT America first. 
I didn't vote for war. I voted for closing the border and kicking the riff-raff out of the country. I voted for no tranny parties at the white house and men with breast implants exposing them. I voted for MAGA not MIGA.
 

*Roshambo » 21 Jun 2026, 6:43 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 6:43 am

excuse me...

The Iran Nuclear Deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), reached its scheduled "Termination Day" and expired on October 18, 2025. This 10-year expiration officially terminated the United Nations Security Council resolution endorsing the deal and ended all remaining nuclear-related restrictions and sanctions.

Although the original agreement set a 10-year sunset clause, the United States had already unilaterally withdrawn from the pact during the Trump administration in May 2018. However, the remaining international parties continued to adhere to the time.
 

Hindsight is 2020 when history governs tomorrow's outcomes 7 days a week. Shame your brain doesn't understand that type of corruption practice by one species against itself 24/7.

*Roshambo » 21 Jun 2026, 6:43 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 6:43 am

change your name to MIGABoy
excuse me..

The Iran Nuclear Deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), reached its scheduled "Termination Day" and expired on October 18, 2025. This 10-year expiration officially terminated the United Nations Security Council resolution endorsing the deal and ended all remaining nuclear-related restrictions and sanctions.

Although the original agreement set a 10-year sunset clause, the United States had already unilaterally withdrawn from the pact during the Trump administration in May 2018. However, the remaining international parties continued to adhere to the time.

How **** stupid are you to support Trump knowing Obama had Iran under control along with 6 other nations including Russia. The JCPOA had inspectors on the ground along with provisions for further negotiations. Then in 2018 trump tore up the agreement because it was an Obama deal... flat out narcissism.

Now the fraud is costing America. The first 118 days alone cost $113.3 billion in completely unnecessary spending.

This is my problem with Trump and this administration. It is NOT America first. 
I didn't vote for war. I voted for closing the border and kicking the riff-raff out of the country. I voted for no tranny parties at the white house and men with breast implants exposing them. I voted for MAGA not MIGA.

Please explain how Iran was enriching if Obama "had Iran under control". 
I'll wait. 

golfboy » 21 Jun 2026, 8:58 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 8:58 pm

Please explain how Iran was enriching if Obama "had Iran under control". 
I'll wait.

Under the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA), Iran was only permitted to enrich uranium to 3.67 percent—the level required for civilian nuclear energy.
Once Trump said "**** this deal" Iran began began breaching these limits in 2019. The JCPOA had inspectors on the ground along with provisions for further negotiations. Trump tore up the agreement because it was an Obama deal... flat out narcissism.

Nod derp nod.

Answer my question   

How **** stupid are you to support Trump knowing Obama had Iran under control along with 6 other nations including Russia. 3.67% it was allowed and it was under control.

Now the fraud is costing America. The first 118 days alone cost $113.3 billion in completely unnecessary spending.    
 

*Roshambo » 21 Jun 2026, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2026, 9:18 pm

Under the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA), Iran was only permitted to enrich uranium to 3.67 percent—the level required for civilian nuclear energy.
Once Trump said "**** this deal" Iran began began breaching these limits in 2019. The JCPOA had inspectors on the ground along with provisions for further negotiations. Trump tore up the agreement because it was an Obama deal... flat out narcissism.

Nod derp nod.

Answer my question   

How **** stupid are you to support Trump knowing Obama had Iran under control along with 6 other nations including Russia. 3.67% it was allowed and it was under control.

Now the fraud is costing America. The first 118 days alone cost $113.3 billion in completely unnecessary spending.  

You didn't answer the question.  If they weren't allowed to enrich uranium, why were they doing so? 
The IAEA said they were violating the agreement, and Obama did NOTHING about it, contrary to your claim that he had Iran "under control". IAEA Declares Iran in Breach of Nuclear Nonproliferation Obligations

nefarious101 » 20 Jun 2026, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:01 am

As reported by CNNLOL SAYS

we all have the internet.....not just you

You pathetic thing. I read the **** MOU for myself, as soon as it was made public. It's 14 points.

The fact that you assume this or that "news" channel imparted it to me is extremely telling, Projection Lad. 

It means the notion of just reading it for yourself or shutting the **** up about it never even occured to you.

How sad for you. You're the kinda guy who threw his hands in the air joyously when he graduated high school, and shouted, "Yeehaw! I will never read another **** book in my LIFE! YEEHAW!"

If you're gonna keep desperately trying to tie me to cnn, ya fruit, TRY not to reveal what a slack jawed humunculous you are.

I say that with genuine affection, to help you avoid looking stupid at some future time. 
 

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm

Well, this is stupid.  Obama's "deal" no longer exists. 
Not because Trump tore it up, but because it expired.

Yes, it would have expired, IF it had not been renewed. But it never got renewed, on account of it getting torn up duh.

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm

And Obama's deal ALLOWED Iran to enrich uranium and process heavy water after the deal expired.

Trump's will allow that BEFORE it expires. Nations have legitimate civilian uses for enriched uranium.

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm

Additionally, the IAEA said for YEARS that Iran was enriching and Obama did NOTHING about it.

For years, ya say? And no one did anything?

What dastardly things did they do with the stuff?

Iran has never been accused by anyone of possessing weapons grade uranium. 

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm

They have no Navy or Airforce. We can do anything we want to them, at any time.

Oh, I know, I know.

They sure are lucky Trump is letting them off the hook, dummy.

golfboy » 20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2026, 8:09 pm

Trump ended Iran's nuclear ambitions. No enrichment, no purchasing, no acquiring of any kind. 
Turns out all you need is a president with a spine that is willing to bomb them into submission.

We all watched them submit, Captain Inventotard.