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RebelGator » 25 Jun 2026, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:04 pm

If they're members, why don't they ever post?

Oh you mean here? Whoops. My bad. LOL. Sorry, I thought you referring to my 2.5 billion number. 

I don't think there are any other members here. Jerra is, but he doesn't believe in the Old Testament, which is problematic in the Christian faith.

 

nefarious101 » 25 Jun 2026, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 11:32 am

The usual suspects now railing against people's faith...

They can't tolerate anything other people do

We should be like the muslims.....they insult your faith...

you put your foot on their necks

they don't respect you!...why should you respect them?

Animals and atheists have no belief system...neither is capable of morality

Faith is something made up, actual living is what exists in related displacements populating time since conception here this rotation of the planet's current events plain sight, now.

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 12:34 pm

Exactly. The Jews are not our ambassadors to God. We don't need to go through them to get to God. Period. Only Jesus holds that title.

We don't owe Israel a GOD DAMN thing   
 

*Roshambo » 25 Jun 2026, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:41 pm

We don't owe Israel a GOD DAMN thing  :)  
 

Genetic Origin of Displacement. Conception, not compromise between ideas after birth.

*Roshambo » 25 Jun 2026, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:41 pm

We don't owe Israel a GOD DAMN thing 

I listened to this rabbi talk about how many Americans want us to cut ties with Israel. He said that any country that receives the Jews are blessed. That's why America has so much wealth. However, if they reject the Jews, then those blessings are gone. America will collapse. 

How do you reason with such delusions? 

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:46 pm

I listened to this rabbi talk about how many Americans want us to cut ties with Israel. He said that any country that receives the Jews are blessed. That's why America has so much wealth. However, if they reject the Jews, then those blessings are gone. America will collapse. 

How do you reason with such delusions? 

Staying honest about what you became since conception. Citizens of realities stay on scripted outcomes in history protecting the world staged events happening daily here.

sole » 25 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm

Faith is something made up, actual living is what exists in related displacements populating time since conception here this rotation of the planet's current events plain sight, now.

it's no ones business what people's beliefs are...

the only one's that care are people who believe and those who have a hard time tolerating other people's beliefs

they can't accept the idea that there could be something greater and more important than they are

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:06 pm

Oh you mean here? Whoops. My bad. LOL. Sorry, I thought you referring to my 2.5 billion number. 

I don't think there are any other members here. Jerra is, but he doesn't believe in the Old Testament, which is problematic in the Christian faith.

Problematic for Christ as well.--

 he said not to put the new wine in old wine bottles

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:06 pm

Oh you mean here? Whoops. My bad. LOL. Sorry, I thought you referring to my 2.5 billion number. 

I don't think there are any other members here. Jerra is, but he doesn't believe in the Old Testament, which is problematic in the Christian faith.

Matthew 917 Nor is new wine put into old [a]wineskins [that have lost their elasticity]; otherwise the wineskins burst, and the [fermenting] wine spills and the wineskins are ruined. But new wine is put into fresh wineskins, so both are preserved.”Read full chapter

jerrab » 25 Jun 2026, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 2:00 pm

Problematic for Christ as well.--

 he said not to put the new wine in old wine bottles

To me those are small details that I am sure have a logical explanation. I am not inclined to study every inconsistent detail that may not be inconsistent. They just appear to be at the surface. There are many scholars who could probably reconcile those contradictions. I am more concerned about the essence of Christ. 

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 1:46 pm

I listened to this rabbi talk about how many Americans want us to cut ties with Israel. He said that any country that receives the Jews are blessed. That's why America has so much wealth. However, if they reject the Jews, then those blessings are gone. America will collapse. 

How do you reason with such delusions?

You don't. Just like you can't reason with people that Christ is not pro genocide.

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 2:04 pm

To me those are small details that I am sure have a logical explanation. I am not inclined to study every inconsistent detail that may not be inconsistent. They just appear to be at the surface. There are many scholars who could probably reconcile those contradictions. I am more concerned about the essence of Christ.

it is not a small detail, it is a commandment. And yes there are those who will say he did not mean what he said, and that is a big part of the problems we are having today.  
 
 
 

Separation of Church and State.. Aye!

God is for Peace.. Government is for the people by the people.

It's an employee owned collective.  But I did hear God say Elon is a piece of shyt.
 

*Roshambo » 25 Jun 2026, 5:48 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 5:48 am

To some, Israel is considered the Chosen People of God.
What is our status?  Are we not also the chosen people?

This misconception undermines Jesus and, within Christianity, it distorts the Christian faith. The current Netanyahu administration has motivated Christians to endorse acts of genocide. The very individuals whose forebears crucified Jesus are now utilizing him as a symbol for genocide.

Jews do not accept Jesus as their Messiah, yet they will assert to you, as a Christian, that the Messiah is Jewish. Indeed, but I respond, "your ancestors were responsible for his death."

MIKE HUCKABEE, I OWE NOTHING! Huckabee asserts that we possess an eternal moral obligation to the Jewish people.

What on earth?

An eternal moral obligation to the Jewish people?

Jesus has already paid my debt. As a Christian, I bear no debt to anyone, particularly not on ethical grounds.

This notion of an eternal moral obligation must cease IMMEDIATELY

That's quite the fascist attitude you have there!   

What if the Jews hadn't killed Jesus and the human Son of God had died of old age? Would the New Covenant have been fulfilled?

This could be what Huckabee was referring to. I have no idea.

Trust me, I have more questions than answers!

The Old Testament does not explicitly state that the Jewish people would kill the Messiah. Instead, the Jewish scriptures prophesied that the Messiah would suffer and be handed over to Gentiles (nations outside of Israel) to be put to death

The killing (crucifixion) of Christ marks the transition to the New Covenant. His death fulfilled the Old Covenant (the Mosaic law) and his shed blood served as the ultimate, atoning sacrifice that established the New Covenant between God and humanity.

The New Covenant: Instituted at the Last Supper and sealed by Jesus's death on the cross, this covenant is based on faith, grace, and the forgiveness of sins through Christ.


 

jerrab » 25 Jun 2026, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 2:13 pm

it is not a small detail, it is a commandment. And yes there are those who will say he did not mean what he said, and that is a big part of the problems we are having today.

A commandment? Nothing about wine is in the 10 commandments. Also I doubt any serious Christian theologian would claim that Christ never meant what he said. 

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 2:42 pm

A commandment? Nothing about wine is in the 10 commandments. Also I doubt any serious Christian theologian would claim that Christ never meant what he said.

At least people still remember what Jesus said.

Trump has forgotten stuff he passed already.
 

Vegas » 25 Jun 2026, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 2:42 pm

A commandment? Nothing about wine is in the 10 commandments. Also I doubt any serious Christian theologian would claim that Christ never meant what he said.

///They change the meaning into something else./////

Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.//////.    His teachings will conflict with the old wine skins and they will burst and the new wine--his teachings-- will spill out and be ruined  --: ===else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out,---===
 

JohnnyYou » 25 Jun 2026, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 2:47 pm

At least people still remember what Jesus said.

Trump has forgotten stuff he passed already.

Don't forget to flush the stuff you're passing.

 

jerrab » 25 Jun 2026, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2026, 3:12 pm

///They change the meaning into something else./////

Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.//////.    His teachings will conflict with the old wine skins and they will burst and the new wine--his teachings-- will spill out and be ruined  --: ===else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out,---===

I don't know. I really just don't focus on these things. I don't think it contradicts who Christ is and his sacrifice. Like I said, I am certain that if you research what theologians say about it, then you will receive a satisfactory answer.