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Blackvegetable » 19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm

Here's an idea.


Come up with a credible source detailing a separate development of the "semi auto" AR-15.

I have traced this back to the original 2 dozen "Sporters".....they were the same weapon sold to the military - except they were modified to comply with ATF regs. These were distributed to members of the board at Colt to celebrate the 2nd order from the military.

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

 

You are incorrect.  THe semi automatic Sporter was not available until 1964.

Here is what the AF ordered:

In May 1962, following tests led by Gen. Curtis LeMay, the U.S. Air Force officially ordered a batch of select-fire ArmaLite AR-15s. This initial procurement paved the way for the rifle's widespread adoption and eventual redesignation as the M16. [1, 2, 3, 4]

You understand what Select-Fire is, correct?
 

Blackvegetable » 19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm

Here's an idea.


Come up with a credible source detailing a separate development of the "semi auto" AR-15.

I have traced this back to the original 2 dozen "Sporters".....they were the same weapon sold to the military - except they were modified to comply with ATF regs. These were distributed to members of the board at Colt to celebrate the 2nd order from the military.

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

 

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

AI Overview

Colt created and released its first mass-production civilian semi-automatic AR-15—the Colt AR-15 Sporter (SP1)—in 1964. Colt had developed the semi-automatic concept and produced a limited pre-production run of roughly two dozen rifles for evaluation in 1963, with full-scale production and sales following the next year

Huey » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

8 minutes ago

AI Overview

Colt created and released its first mass-production civilian semi-automatic AR-15—the Colt AR-15 Sporter (SP1)—in 1964. Colt had developed the semi-automatic concept and produced a limited pre-production run of roughly two dozen rifles for evaluation in 1963, with full-scale production and sales following the next year

first mass-production

the first semi auto AR-15 s were not "mass produced"..



 

Squatchman » 19 Jul 2026, 9:30 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2026, 9:30 pm

   Do you think I care about any of that crap?

 
 

 

You shouldn't.  He posted bogus info.  While the Air Force did order Armalite Rifle 15s, they were select fire, not semi auto.

Blackvegetable » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

3 minutes ago

first mass-production

the first semi auto AR-15 s were not "mass produced"..



 

 

So?  That wasn't until 1963.  Next, you forgot to read this post:

Here is what the AF ordered:

In May 1962, following tests led by Gen. Curtis LeMay, the U.S. Air Force officially ordered a batch of select-fire ArmaLite AR-15s. This initial procurement paved the way for the rifle's widespread adoption and eventual redesignation as the M16. [1, 2, 3, 4]

You understand what Select-Fire is, correct?

Using your criteria, you lied.  
 

ROG62 » 57 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

57 minutes ago

still batting zero I see…

Then don't rely on facial recognition, **** idiot.

Blackvegetable » 18 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

18 minutes ago

first mass-production

the first semi auto AR-15 s were not "mass produced"..



 

 

I never said they were.  Buy you said this:

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

That is in correct.  Or as you would say, a lie.  Take your L.

 

Yet soon after launch, Colt would get a boost of legitimacy from the Vietnam War. The company’s AR-15 was the civilian variant of the M16 rifle, which the U.S. military adopted as its service rifle, and the conflict helped popularize both weapons. 

“Now you can buy a hot new combat rifle for sport,” Popular Science wrote in early 1965, welcoming the new AR-15.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... marketing/


We're outta here....again

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

Yet soon after launch, Colt would get a boost of legitimacy from the Vietnam War. The company’s AR-15 was the civilian variant of the M16 rifle, which the U.S. military adopted as its service rifle, and the conflict helped popularize both weapons. 

“Now you can buy a hot new combat rifle for sport,” Popular Science wrote in early 1965, welcoming the new AR-15.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... marketing/


We're outta here....again

 

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

These are you words.  That is a lie.

 

Huey » 29 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

29 minutes ago

I never said they were.  Buy you said this:

That is in correct.  Or as you would say, a lie.  Take your L.

Yes...I was mistaken on the AF order...


Colt continued to use the AR-15 trademark for its line of semi-automatic-only rifles marketed to civilian and law-enforcement customers, known as Colt AR-15. The Armalite AR-15 is the parent of a variety of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.

Huey » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

3 minutes ago

These are you words.  That is a lie.

Here are the words of your citation.

This article describes the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design


how many families? 


How many designs? 

 

Blackvegetable » 19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm

Here's an idea.


Come up with a credible source detailing a separate development of the "semi auto" AR-15.

I have traced this back to the original 2 dozen "Sporters".....they were the same weapon sold to the military - except they were modified to comply with ATF regs. These were distributed to members of the board at Colt to celebrate the 2nd order from the military.

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

 

I see your diversions.....and call your lie:

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

You are incorrect.  THe semi automatic Sporter was not available until 1964.

Here is what the AF ordered:

In May 1962, following tests led by Gen. Curtis LeMay, the U.S. Air Force officially ordered a batch of select-fire ArmaLite AR-15s. This initial procurement paved the way for the rifle's widespread adoption and eventual redesignation as the M16. [1, 2, 3, 4]

You understand what Select-Fire is, correct?
 
 

Tiny, It's irrelevant to the issue of design.  It's over... You lost.  Again.

Blackvegetable » 19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm

Here's an idea.


Come up with a credible source detailing a separate development of the "semi auto" AR-15.

I have traced this back to the original 2 dozen "Sporters".....they were the same weapon sold to the military - except they were modified to comply with ATF regs. These were distributed to members of the board at Colt to celebrate the 2nd order from the military.

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

 

I see your diversions.....and call your lie:

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

You are incorrect.  THe semi automatic Sporter was not available until 1964.

Here is what the AF ordered:

In May 1962, following tests led by Gen. Curtis LeMay, the U.S. Air Force officially ordered a batch of select-fire ArmaLite AR-15s. This initial procurement paved the way for the rifle's widespread adoption and eventual redesignation as the M16. [1, 2, 3, 4]

You understand what Select-Fire is, correct?
 

Funny how, whenever Tiny goes into full auto mode, his yapping is not reproduced when I hit reply...


How many families?

How many designs?

Blackvegetable » 19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm

Here's an idea.


Come up with a credible source detailing a separate development of the "semi auto" AR-15.

I have traced this back to the original 2 dozen "Sporters".....they were the same weapon sold to the military - except they were modified to comply with ATF regs. These were distributed to members of the board at Colt to celebrate the 2nd order from the military.

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

 

Funny, when BV gets caught in a lie he returns to other lies to diver.

I see your diversions.....and call your lie:

The first order came from the Air Force, ca. 1962....for semi auto AR-15s.

You are incorrect.  THe semi automatic Sporter was not available until 1964.

Here is what the AF ordered:

In May 1962, following tests led by Gen. Curtis LeMay, the U.S. Air Force officially ordered a batch of select-fire ArmaLite AR-15s. This initial procurement paved the way for the rifle's widespread adoption and eventual redesignation as the M16. [1, 2, 3, 4]

You understand what Select-Fire is, correct?

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Time for Tiny to acknowledge his loss.
 

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

Error acknowledged here  

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Time for Tiny to acknowledge his loss.
 

 

I haven't lost anything.  You understand that in 1962 the AF did not order semi automatics, correct?  And all you are doing is repeating w=info I have already given you, although you do not understand it.

Huey » 4 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

4 minutes ago

I haven't lost anything.  

How many families? 


How many designs?


B'bye!

Blackvegetable » 22 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

22 minutes ago

Yes...I was mistaken on the AF order...

Colt continued to use the AR-15 trademark for its line of semi-automatic-only rifles marketed to civilian and law-enforcement customers, known as Colt AR-15. The Armalite AR-15 is the parent of a variety of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.

Mistakes happen and it takes an honest person to admit so.

I made a mistake once.. I thought I was wrong but I was actually correct.