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I need proof. Your words are just ****. Cold hard facts.

PhiloBeddo » 29 Jul 2026, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 4:24 pm

I need proof. Your words are just ****. Cold hard facts.

References included.. 
Yes, the refrigeration and HVAC industry has been heavily impacted by Trump's tariffs, leading to fluctuating material costs, supply chain adjustments, and targeted relief policies. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Cost Pressures and Supply Chain Disruptions

• Metal Duties: Sweeping Section 232 tariffs on steel, aluminum, and copper drove up input prices for refrigeration and heating equipment components like compressors, condensers, and temperature sensors. [1, 2]

• Global Sourcing Penalties: Broad 10% to 12.5% import duties on trading partners (such as 12.5% on China, the EU, and Japan) increased production and shipping complexities for imported cooling hardware. [1, 2]

• Appliance Manufacturing Strain: Major domestic appliance makers like Whirlpool faced mixed outcomes, cutting local manufacturing jobs at specific refrigerator plants while adjusting supply chains and shifting production lines. [1, 2]

Policy Adjustments and Relief

• Reduced Rates: The administration adjusted derivative tariff rates down to 15% for specific HVAC and refrigeration system components to mitigate peak-season cost spikes for contractors and distributors. [1, 2]

• Regulatory Rollbacks: Alongside trade actions, the administration relaxed strict EPA hydrofluorocarbon (HFC) phase-out timelines on cooling equipment to help lower operational overhead for commercial refrigeration and grocery sectors, though industry groups warned it could inject market uncertainty

PhiloBeddo » 29 Jul 2026, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 4:24 pm

I need proof. Your words are just ****. Cold hard facts.

Most of our business was in Canada in the last year of business.

75% of everything was foriegn sourced.
 

Nothing has gone up in price. Appliances, HCAC, Groceries, Cars have all stayed about the same or went down.

PhiloBeddo » 29 Jul 2026, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 4:32 pm

Nothing has gone up in price. Appliances, HCAC, Groceries, Cars have all stayed about the same or went down.

Over the 12-month period ending in June 2026, consumer prices in the U.S. increased by 3.5%, driven largely by notable jumps in energy and food costs according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. [1]

Key Price Changes by Category

• Energy: Rose 15.7% overall over the past year, heavily impacted by a 26.7% spike in gasoline prices and a 4.0% increase in electricity, driven by geopolitical conflict and oil market volatility. [1, 2]

• Food: Increased 3.0% overall. Groceries (food at home) went up 2.7%, while dining out (food away from home) rose 3.4%, compounding long-term post-pandemic spikes where staples like ground beef reached an average of $6.82 per pound. [1, 2]

• Shelter and Housing: Grew at a slower annual rate of 3.3%, though it remains a sticky expense adding ongoing pressure to household budgets. [1, 2]

Would you like information on how these price changes vary by a specific U.S. region, or details on core inflation trends?





 

BLS.. Bullsharting Lieing Suckers. Any stats released have to be approved by Trump first.
 

In the REAL world no. I check ads and buy things and pay utility bills and nothing has gone up. You can't spit down my back and tell me it's raining.

PhiloBeddo » 29 Jul 2026, 4:40 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 4:40 pm

In the REAL world no. I check ads and buy things and pay utility bills and nothing has gone up. You can't spit down my back and tell me it's raining.

The Chef Boy Ar Dee  Beefaroni stayed the same price because they went to bio engineered food ingredients.

Stuff must get shipped to you.  The diesel in transport alone in everything, including the plastic container from takeout, comes from oil.

YOU are not the economy.  Just as a heat wave is not climate change.


 

Beekeeper » 29 Jul 2026, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 4:11 pm

Oh, I can afford them and could EASILY buy 10 or 20 IF THAT WAS MY CHOICE!!

You, on the other hand, don't sense enough to know when to wear one, cupcake!! So, I can ASSURE YOU there isn't a single TIE in your closet!! Not even one from JC Penny or even WALMART!!

       

  I wasn't talking about ties. I could care less about them. Wouldn"t be caught dead wearing a suit and tie.You're right,not a single one in my closet. I'm not a businessman,church goer or any other sort of person that would need one. 
  Laugh all you want but I'd bet just my cowboy boot and hat collection plus my leather jacket collection alone are worth more than your entire wardrobe. Just my B7 Aleutian bomber coat I wear in the coldest weather in Canada cost $2,500.00

 
 

Beekeeper » 29 Jul 2026, 6:01 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 6:01 am

"Reddit users"??

Really?? THAT's your "source"??

Next up, we'll be hearing from The Onion as being 100% RELIABLE for sourcing!!

You're a **** IDIOT!!

Of course that *** would cite reddit.   

Squatchman » 29 Jul 2026, 11:25 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2026, 11:25 pm

  I wasn't talking about ties. I could care less about them. Wouldn"t be caught dead wearing a suit and tie.You're right,not a single one in my closet. I'm not a businessman,church goer or any other sort of person that would need one. 
  Laugh all you want but I'd bet just my cowboy boot and hat collection plus my leather jacket collection alone are worth more than your entire wardrobe. Just my B7 Aleutian bomber coat I wear in the coldest weather in Canada cost $2,500.00

NOBODY really gives a **** since we HAVE NO **** TO GIVE, dickbrains!!

       

Beekeeper » 30 Jul 2026, 5:10 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 5:10 am

NOBODY really gives a **** since we HAVE NO **** TO GIVE, dickbrains!!

     

Exactly why we don't want your kind in leadership.  
 

Re: Dems hate tariffs. Why do they hate Made in America?Post Thu Jul 30, 2026 6:30 am
Johnny You, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post.

As a public service announcement, I DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES read your posts or horse squeeze.

So, in the interest of saving you time and the forum the bandwidth, it's advisable that you stop quoting or replying in any manner since nothing other than this is going to happen here.

TAKE A HIKE, CUPCAKE!! Your ilk happens to NOT be able to get part the LUNATIC AND MORON FILTERS!!

         

Beekeeper » 30 Jul 2026, 5:10 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 5:10 am

NOBODY really gives a **** since we HAVE NO **** TO GIVE, dickbrains!!

     

  You're the one that brought it up. And it looks like it's time for you to turn tail and run. Again.
You make this too easy Bertha.
 

Squatchman » 30 Jul 2026, 6:10 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 6:10 am

  You're the one that brought it up. And it looks like it's time for you to turn tail and run. Again.
You make this too easy Bertha.

STFU you back woods dog ****

FJB » 30 Jul 2026, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 6:16 am

STFU you back woods dog ****

  Aww look. A little pedophile coming to defend another pedophile. How sweet.
 

Squatchman » 30 Jul 2026, 6:10 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 6:10 am

  You're the one that brought it up. And it looks like it's time for you to turn tail and run. Again.
You make this too easy Bertha.

No, YOU started the **** about ties.

Now, YOU can turn tail, run, and show the world how **** STUPID you really are, cockbreath!!

Besides, squatting to pee seems to be something you never deny you do, so there's that, ******!!

         

Beekeeper » 30 Jul 2026, 5:49 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 5:49 am

As a public service announcement, I DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES read your posts or horse squeeze.


 

Public Service

Squatchman » 30 Jul 2026, 6:25 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 6:25 am

  Aww look. A little pedophile coming to defend another pedophile. How sweet.

Slinging ******* **** like you do only makes you STINK, cupcake!! Seeing how you NEVER hit the target!!       

Sucks, huh??

Beekeeper » 30 Jul 2026, 6:27 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2026, 6:27 am

No, YOU started the **** about ties.

Now, YOU can turn tail, run, and show the world how **** STUPID you really are, cockbreath!!

Besides, squatting to pee seems to be something you never deny you do, so there's that, ******!!

       

  I never brought up ties,you did.
I brought up all of the other trump crap made in China. Hats,shirts,flags,watches,phones and most likely the trump bible though I didn't mention it by name. And then I said it was a good thing that **** was made in China because the cult members couldn't afford it if it was made in the US.
  I know you're having a hard laboring under the early onset of dementia but do try to keep up.