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Blackvegetable » 50 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 51 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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“. . . I also believe we can respect Second Amendment rights while, at the same time, preventing lawbreakers and people who are a danger to others from committing atrocities . . .”
― Mark M. Bello, Betrayal High

How many of the people you quoted were as SPECIFICALLY qualified to comment on the constitutional question as the former Chief Justice?


Just another context...
 

 

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

 

"The right to bare arms is just embarrassing for me, I can't even wear a sun dress".....Black Vegetable.

RebelGator » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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"The right to bare arms is just embarrassing for me, I can't even wear a sun dress".....Black Vegetable.

It's unbearable.. I am actually looking for Trump saluting the North Korean Generals.

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JohnnyYou » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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It's unbearable.. I am actually looking for Trump saluting the North Korean Generals.

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Johnny,

Sweet Donnie famously told a rally crowd in 2018 that they "fell in love" after Kim wrote him "beautiful letters"


Oh man      
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:53 am

Huey » Today, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:51 am

“. . . I also believe we can respect Second Amendment rights while, at the same time, preventing lawbreakers and people who are a danger to others from committing atrocities . . .”
― Mark M. Bello, Betrayal High

How many of the people you quoted were as SPECIFICALLY qualified to comment on the constitutional question as the former Chief Justice?


Just another context...
 

 

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

 

Blackvegetable » Today, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:53 am

How many of the people you quoted were as SPECIFICALLY qualified to comment on the constitutional question as the former Chief Justice?

Just another context...

And another:


"To disarm the people...s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

 

Huey » 2 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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And another:

"To disarm the people...s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

You weigh 145...

The oppressors wouldn't waste the bullet...they'd just wait for the wind to pick up...

 

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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And another:

"To disarm the people...s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

You weigh 145...

The oppressors wouldn't waste the bullet...they'd just wait for the wind to pick up...

 

 

Snd another that knows better than Burger:

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:53 am

Huey » Today, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:51 am

“. . . I also believe we can respect Second Amendment rights while, at the same time, preventing lawbreakers and people who are a danger to others from committing atrocities . . .”
― Mark M. Bello, Betrayal High

How many of the people you quoted were as SPECIFICALLY qualified to comment on the constitutional question as the former Chief Justice?


Just another context...
 

 

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787
 

Huey » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Snd another that knows better than Burger:

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

Blackvegetable » 4 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

27 minutes ago

Snd another that knows better than Burger:

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

 

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

Huey » 11 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

I take that as a "no"...

Blackvegetable » 19 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

Key Quotes from District of Columbia v. Heller

• On Individual Rights and Self-Defense:

  "[It] surely elevates above all other interests the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home."

  [1]

On Public Carry Rights (Bruen, 2022): Justice Thomas noted that American history generally did not show broad prohibitions on carrying firearms for personal defense in public.

On Equal Constitutional Status (Bruen, 2022): He emphasized that the right to bear arms is not inferior to other Bill of Rights guarantees.

On the Scope of the Second Amendment (Bruen, 2022): He affirmed that the Amendment protects "all Americans" in keeping and bearing arms for various purposes, including self-defense.

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 16 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

I take that as a "no"...

 

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Blackvegetable » Today, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:53 am

Huey » Today, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:51 am

“. . . I also believe we can respect Second Amendment rights while, at the same time, preventing lawbreakers and people who are a danger to others from committing atrocities . . .”
― Mark M. Bello, Betrayal High

How many of the people you quoted were as SPECIFICALLY qualified to comment on the constitutional question as the former Chief Justice?


Just another context...
 

 

And another one:"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

 

Huey » 22 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Why?

Huey » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

Key Quotes from District of Columbia v. Heller

• On Individual Rights and Self-Defense:
  
  [1]

On Public Carry Rights (Bruen, 2022): Justice Thomas noted that American history generally did not show broad prohibitions on carrying firearms for personal defense in public.

On Equal Constitutional Status (Bruen, 2022): He emphasized that the right to bear arms is not inferior to other Bill of Rights guarantees.

On the Scope of the Second Amendment (Bruen, 2022): He affirmed that the Amendment protects "all Americans" in keeping and bearing arms for various purposes, including self-defense.

Debunked

Blackvegetable » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Why?

 

My bad.  Should have been scroll.  Some code is preventing me from using the quote function so here is a repost:



Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

Key Quotes from District of Columbia v. Heller

• On Individual Rights and Self-Defense:

  "[It] surely elevates above all other interests the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home."

  [1]

On Public Carry Rights (Bruen, 2022): Justice Thomas noted that American history generally did not show broad prohibitions on carrying firearms for personal defense in public.

On Equal Constitutional Status (Bruen, 2022): He emphasized that the right to bear arms is not inferior to other Bill of Rights guarantees.

On the Scope of the Second Amendment (Bruen, 2022): He affirmed that the Amendment protects "all Americans" in keeping and bearing arms for various purposes, including self-defense.

Blackvegetable » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Debunked

Nope.  


"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

Just curious....was Burger ever able to explain why there was no FEDERAL Firearm Laws from 1791 2when the Bill of Rights was ratified until the NFA of 1934, 143 years?
 

Huey » 13 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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My bad.  Should have been scroll.  Some code is preventing me from using the quote function so here is a repost:

Do you even understand what SCOTUS does?

Key Quotes from District of Columbia v. Heller

• On Individual Rights and Self-Defense:
  
  [1]

On Public Carry Rights (Bruen, 2022): Justice Thomas noted that American history generally did not show broad prohibitions on carrying firearms for personal defense in public.

On Equal Constitutional Status (Bruen, 2022): He emphasized that the right to bear arms is not inferior to other Bill of Rights guarantees.

On the Scope of the Second Amendment (Bruen, 2022): He affirmed that the Amendment protects "all Americans" in keeping and bearing arms for various purposes, including self-defense.

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