Assault rifle vs. Assault weapon

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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 11:57 am » wrote: How many times must you be beaten with this?

 
Never have and never will be.  Go ahead and try.  Please oh please.  Just do it.  
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Squatchman » 17 Aug 2026, 11:02 am » wrote:   Congrats! You get the first **** off of the thread.
Oh don't get that way Smelly Snatch...we are Buds

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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 11:56 am » wrote: You're RUNNING from facts...

 
More facts

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The semi-automatic-only version of the AR-15 has never been standard military issue. The military version—derived from the original ArmaLite design and Colt production—was built with select-fire capabilities (capable of fully automatic or burst fire), designated as the M16 or M4

Military Adoption Timeline
  • 1963: The U.S. military officially ordered and designated the select-fire variant as the M16, making it standard issue for troops.
  • 1964: Colt began manufacturing and selling the strictly semi-automatic-only variant (marketed as the Colt AR-15 Sporter) to civilians and law enforcement, separate from military contracts.
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 7:47 am » wrote: Did that citation commence as follows?

This article describes the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design

 
You have already questioned the validity of the list when you ignored the lists contained in that article as inaccurate.  
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 12:26 pm » wrote: You have already questioned the validity of the list when you ignored the lists contained in that article as inaccurate.
Have you heard of LWRC?  There were a lot of folks pumping them up.

I could have pursued a position building them for Saudi Arabia..  Drones could be used for peaceful as well as lethal means. Assault firearms have one purpose only..  to kill. I made a conscious  decision I did not want to support production of death out of the barrel..

The tech for lethal drones has gone exponential  in the 20 years I have been out of the arena.  I would pay for the ballroom  if he stayed inside it an STFU..
 
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JohnnyYou » 17 Aug 2026, 12:40 pm » wrote: Have you heard of LWRC?  There were a lot of folks pumping them up.

I could have pursued a position building them for Saudi Arabia..  Drones could be used for peaceful as well as lethal means. Assault firearms have one purpose only..  to kill. I made a conscious  decision I did not want to support production of death out of the barrel..

The tech for lethal drones has gone exponential  in the 20 years I have been out of the arena.  I would pay for the ballroom  if he stayed inside it an STFU..
 

 
Nope, haven't heard of them.
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 12:26 pm » wrote: You have already questioned the validity of the list when you ignored the lists contained in that article as inaccurate.
That's not the problem...

You cannot read.
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 12:25 pm » wrote: More facts

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The semi-automatic-only version of the AR-15 has never been standard military issue. The military version—derived from the original ArmaLite design and Colt production—was built with select-fire capabilities (capable of fully automatic or burst fire), designated as the M16 or M4

Military Adoption Timeline
  • 1963: The U.S. military officially ordered and designated the select-fire variant as the M16, making it standard issue for troops.
  • 1964: Colt began manufacturing and selling the strictly semi-automatic-only variant (marketed as the Colt AR-15 Sporter) to civilians and law enforcement, separate from military contracts.
It was designed in the 50s.
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 12:53 pm » wrote: That's not the problem...

You cannot read.



 
Sorry, I can't take your position seriously when you don't think the source is reliable.  
 
 
 
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 12:55 pm » wrote: Sorry, I can't take your position seriously when you don't think the source is reliable.
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 12:53 pm » wrote: It was designed in the 50s.
Almost everything was...
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 12:53 pm » wrote: It was designed in the 50s.
   So?
His post was about when the military adopted the M16 and when Colt started making the AR 15 available to the public.
 
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Squatchman » 17 Aug 2026, 12:58 pm » wrote:    So?
His post was about when the military adopted the M16 and when Colt started making the AR 15 available to the public.
LWRC bought Colt I think..
 
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 12:53 pm » wrote: It was designed in the 50s.

 
What became the M 16 was designed in the 50s By ArmaLite. 
  • 1964: Colt began manufacturing and selling the strictly semi-automatic-only variant (marketed as the Colt AR-15 Sporter) to civilians and law enforcement, separate from military contracts
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 1:00 pm » wrote: What became the M 16 was designed in the 50s By ArmaLite. 
 
What became the AR-15 was designed in the 50s by Armalite.
 
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Squatchman » 17 Aug 2026, 12:58 pm » wrote:    So?
His post was about when the military adopted the M16 and when Colt started making the AR 15 available to the public.
It was designed without any regard for the etymological debate which followed.
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 12:55 pm » wrote: Sorry, I can't take your position seriously when you don't think the source isn't reliable.
Are you actually going there?

You cannot be but the dumbest **** alive...

This article describes the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design

How many families?

How many designs?



Here's your L.
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 1:02 pm » wrote: What became the AR-15 was designed in the 50s by Armalite.
 

 
Just delete facts.

The NEW design of the lower and it's components was done in the 60s by Colt.  Not ArmaLite:

To prevent a civilian semi-automatic AR-15 from being readily converted for use with the select fire components, several features were changed. Parts changed include the lower receiver, bolt carrier, hammer, trigger, disconnector, and safety/mode selector. The semi-automatic bolt carrier has a longer lightening slot to prevent the bolt's engagement with an automatic sear. Due to a decrease in mass, the buffer spring is heavier. On the select-fire version, the hammer has an extra spur which interacts with the additional auto-sear that holds it back until the bolt carrier group is fully in battery, when the automatic fire is selected.[79] Using a portion of the select fire parts in a semi-automatic rifle will not enable a select fire option (this requires a registered part with the ATF). Lower receivers that are select-fire are identified by a pinhole above the safety/mode selection switch.[80][81][82][83] As designed by Colt, the pins supporting the semi-auto trigger and hammer in the lower receiver are larger than those used in the military rifle to prevent interchangeability between semi-automatic and select-fire components. The pivot pin may also be slightly larger in diameter.
 
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 1:06 pm » wrote: Are you actually going there?

You cannot be but the dumbest **** alive...

This article describes the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design

How many families?

How many designs?



Here's your L.

 
For the hundredth time, one family, multiple design.  Note the words ORIGINAL design.  That means there were design changes.

Now your turn.  Go to the link where that citations comes from.  Post what list the M 16 is on and what list the AR 15 Sporter is on.  Then tell me what what years the Sporter was military issue.

If the Ar 15 Sporter is on the military list and the you can post the dates it was standard army issue for combat I will take the rest of the week off, returning Sunday.  If you don't DO NOT EVAH presume to lecture me or anyone else on this manner again.  

PS.  I posted the links to this thread earlier and you also can get them from my sig box.  
 
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