Assault rifle vs. Assault weapon

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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 10:49 am » wrote: Literally every single one of your citations.

As repeatedly demonstrated 

 
Incorrect.  In the 50s Armalite, a division of Fairchild Aircraft, was in competition to design the new combat rifle for the military.  They came up with the AR 10/15.  An automatic rifle.  In 1959, Colt than bought the rights to both, and designated its model number c601, calling it officially the ArmaLite AR-15.  You have the link to that because you often post the the beginning of that article, although you don't understand and don't read beyond the first para. Between them and the Government the name was change to M 16 and the NAME AR 15 was shelved.  A few years later a civilian model was DESIGNED.  I have posted the design changes for you often, and have done so today.  They named it the AR 15 Sporter SP1.  
 
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As REPEATEDLY demonstrated...


The same production line.

Why are you going on?
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 7:38 am » wrote: To prevent a civilian semi-automatic AR-15 from being readily converted for use with the select fire components, several features were changed. Parts changed include the lower receiver, bolt carrier, hammer, trigger, disconnector, and safety/mode selector. The semi-automatic bolt carrier has a longer lightening slot to prevent the bolt's engagement with an automatic sear. Due to a decrease in mass, the buffer spring is heavier. On the select-fire version, the hammer has an extra spur which interacts with the additional auto-sear that holds it back until the bolt carrier group is fully in battery, when the automatic fire is selected.[79] Using a portion of the select fire parts in a semi-automatic rifle will not enable a select fire option (this requires a registered part with the ATF). Lower receivers that are select-fire are identified by a pinhole above the safety/mode selection switch.[80][81][82][83] As designed by Colt, the pins supporting the semi-auto trigger and hammer in the lower receiver are larger than those used in the military rifle to prevent interchangeability between semi-automatic and select-fire components. The pivot pin may also be slightly larger in diameter.
 

 
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FJB » 17 Aug 2026, 9:13 am » wrote: **** YOU 

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*Roshambo » 17 Aug 2026, 10:59 am » wrote: And I am praying you blow your head clean off.  Image   Image  
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You first bitch boy
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nefarious101 » 17 Aug 2026, 8:20 am » wrote: Hey Smelly Snatch....

How tall are you when you stand on your gun?.....​​​​​​
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FJB » 17 Aug 2026, 11:01 am » wrote: You first bitch boy
Lead by example  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
 
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*Roshambo » 17 Aug 2026, 11:02 am » wrote: Lead by example  Image   Image   Image
right after you bitch boy
 
 
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 9:44 am » wrote: Now that we all know you lied, it is time for you to provide...
  He hasn't lied once. In fact he's spot on.
What's happenimg is you're trying to ywist things to fit the gun control rhetoric. 
  It's all cut and dried actually.
 Assault rifles  aren't sold to the general public.
Semi automatic weapons are  I don't use the vague term assault weapon in real life because it's not really a thing. Just political crap.
. Although I do call my ARs war machines.
 
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Already addressed.
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FJB » 17 Aug 2026, 11:11 am » wrote: right after you bitch boy
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Funny thing....I just went down this list of COlt Militray weapons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... ary_models

And I can find the Colt Sporter SP1 AR 15 on the list. Or any non select fire weapon.  And there are a lot of them.

Now, when I go down this Civilian List, guess what I found?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... ian_models

You guessed it!  AR-15 Sporter (SP1)!
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 11:29 am » wrote: Funny thing....I just went down this list of COlt Militray weapons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... ary_models

And I can find the Colt Sporter SP1 AR 15 on the list. Or any non select fire weapon.  And there are a lot of them.

Now, when I go down this Civilian List, guess what I found?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... ian_models

You guessed it!  AR-15 Sporter (SP1)!
So what?
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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 7:03 am » wrote: This is nonsense.

The "civilian" AR-15 is a variant of the original AR-15 design, modified so as not to be a machine gun subject to the 1934 regs.

It doesn't "look" like an assault rifle...it is one.

This terminology debate is irrelevant. The AR-15's design and development predates the etymological discussion. The antecedent is German.




 

 
It doesn't "look" like an assault rifle...it is one.
Even the government does not consider them NFA weapons.  Which Assault Rifles are. 

AI OverviewStandard semi-automatic AR-15–style rifles with a barrel length of 16 inches or more and an overall length of at least 26 inches are not National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms. They are regulated as standard Title I long guns under federal law. [1, 2, 3]
 
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 11:40 am » wrote: Even the government does not consider them NFA weapons. 
Which came first

The design


or

The definitions


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Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/origin ... civilians/

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Blackvegetable » 17 Aug 2026, 11:49 am » wrote: Which came first

The design


or

The definitions


?

 
I am just bringing facts to the table.  When you refused to answer the questions at the link in my sig you lost.

You are also implying the source of the citation you frequently post is not reliable, meaning your citation is not reliable.  
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 11:52 am » wrote: I am just bringing facts 
You're RUNNING from facts...
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Huey » 17 Aug 2026, 11:51 am » wrote: Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/origin ... civilians/

Scroll down to the embedded PDF for the actual decision.
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