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jerrab » 31 Aug 2026, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:45 am

////////Under Trump, wild horses sold by the government are turning up at slaughter auctions. They are still wearing the government's brand.
The New York Times published the investigation Thursday. Since Trump returned to office, the Bureau of Land Management has more than doubled its sales of federally protected wild horses. It sold about 3,700 in 2025 alone.
At one government sale event in Poteau, Oklahoma, the Times found at least 55 mustangs, identified by the BLM's own freeze brands, surfacing days later at livestock auctions in Kansas and Texas frequented by slaughter buyers.
The government spends roughly $3,000 to capture a wild horse, chasing it down by helicopter and trucking it to holding pens where some 60,000 already stand. Then, if a horse is past ten years old or goes unclaimed through three adoption listings, the law allows it to be sold outright. The moment it sells, the statute stops calling it a wild horse. Every protection Congress wrote falls away with the signature.

Government inefficiency, I'm sure some people would pay good money to machine gun them from a helicopter.

RebelGator » 31 Aug 2026, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:48 am

Government inefficiency, I'm sure some people would pay good money to machine gun them from a helicopter.

Evil maga people?? No doubt.

jerrab » 31 Aug 2026, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:52 am

Evil maga people?? No doubt.

 Maggots, slimy maggots

 

//////Arizona just did what Washington won't: actually protect its wild horses.
A New York Times investigation this month exposed how federal wild horse sales have skyrocketed under Trump, with the Bureau of Land Management offloading roughly 3,700 horses in 2025—more than double the previous year.
Buyers promise not to send them to slaughter, but critics say that pledge falls apart the moment a horse gets flipped to a middleman who never signed anything. Advocates told Newsweek some of these horses have turned up in "k!ll pens," the last stop before slaughter buyers. The Interior Department maintains BLM "does not sell or send wild horses or burros to slaughter."
Arizona isn't leaving it to chance. Gov. Katie Hobbs just halted all removals from the Salt River Horse Herd through 2027, scrapping a plan that would have pulled 25 horses a year from the wild. She's also bumping the herd's target population from 120 to 170 and lining up funding for state universities to study what these horses actually need to survive — pending a Board of Regents vote scheduled for August 27, 2026.
"I am taking action to ensure the sustainability and health of the Salt River Horse Herd for generations to come," Hobbs said.
The reversal comes after a summer of pushback, including a Capitol rally where advocates pressed Hobbs to let science drive the herd's future instead of a fixed removal timeline. Simone Netherlands, who runs the group managing the herd, welcomed the news: "This suspension of removals and new study will allow us to continue our successful management of the herd and ensure that the Salt River Horses are healthy and thriving."
Washington's still looking away. Arizona just showed everyone what actually stepping up looks like. See less

johnedgarslowhorses » 31 Aug 2026, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:25 am

So the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) creates all these problems, and then people are surprised that government **** up yet another thing.

Solution. Abolish the BLM

nothing is ever trump's fault.     

  nothing.      his supporters beat police. Not his fault. 

jerrab » 31 Aug 2026, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:41 am

At trump's instructions.

LOL no.  The horses are old and decrepit and being kept around in crowded holding pens.  If the government does not interfere, then nature takes it course.  Just like all wild animals.  

johnedgarslowhorses » 31 Aug 2026, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:25 am

So the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) creates all these problems, and then people are surprised that government **** up yet another thing.

Solution. Abolish the BLM

Boom.  Gov creates unnatural living conditions, hence creating these issues.  Another one is national parks.  There are a number of national parks in the US that are privately owned and doing well.

On September 15, when wolf-hunting season opens in Wyoming, armed men will go into the woods to kill Yellowstone’s oldest intact pack, with a special interest in 1090F, their leader and the oldest wolf in the Park.
This, of course, isn’t hunting as we usually understand it. Neither is it protecting anything; Mollies’ Pack has never seen livestock and never will. They’ve spent their whole lives protected in Yellowstone National Park, but now that they have wandered out of the Park’s invisible boundaries, they will be killed on September 15 in what is in actuality an act of political violence - “owning the libs” by the mass slaughter of a keystone species. It’s hate-based hunting, and it’s madness.
Mollie's Pack have remained intact longer than any other wolf pack in Yellowstone and perhaps the world. Originally called the Crystal Creek Pack and later renamed in honor of Mollie Beattie, the first female director of the USFWS and champion for wolves and wild places, they were one of the original packs brought from Canada to repopulate Yellowstone. It was from this pack that the great Wolf 8 hailed. Later they became the mortal enemies of the Druid Pack when Druid alpha female 40 staged a raid on the Mollies that turned deadly. The resulting war would last for generations.
For years now the Mollies have lived in Pelican Valley in the Park's interior - the most rugged and remote terrain in Yellowstone. Most ungulates don't brave the winter there, so the Mollies have become specialists in hunting bison, the region's most dangerous prey. Generally dark-colored and known for their powerful females, these wolves have grown large and are rarely spotted, as they have traded abundant and easy prey for what, to them, is a greater prize - uncontested territory; freedom from war.
They have been an intact pack for over 25 years.
Is it possible to save them? Please click the link in comments to urge Wyoming’s Fish & Game Commission to close Area 1 to wolf hunting this season so that a crucial American legacy can survive.
Tim Love
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Non hunters can go out and make noise fire off noise makers be loud to make the wolves move. Ruin the hunts.
People set up rallies to fight b.s.all the time. Why not ralley at these hunt sites? Actually fight for something with real meaning and satisfaction.
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In most states it's illegal to interfere with or harass hunters who are legally hunting. I guess we need much stiffer penalties.

Those aren't wild horses they're feral horses. They are an introduced species and a detriment to native wildlife. They don't belong there. They usually only bring "meat" price if that. For someone looking for a horse they really aren't worth the cost of the hay that they burn or the fuel and time to transport them. Try one some time, you'll be sorry you did. LOL.

There are lots of hungry people and horse makes a good enough meal.

michaelf » 01 Sep 2026, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2026, 3:14 pm

In most states it's illegal to interfere with or harass hunters who are legally hunting. I guess we need much stiffer penalties.

Those aren't wild horses they're feral horses. They are an introduced species and a detriment to native wildlife. They don't belong there. They usually only bring "meat" price if that. For someone looking for a horse they really aren't worth the cost of the hay that they burn or the fuel and time to transport them. Try one some time, you'll be sorry you did. LOL.

There are lots of hungry people and horse makes a good enough meal.

You are definitely a bushy eyebrowed specimen mike..

*Roshambo » 31 Aug 2026, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:15 am

The legalization of bestiality would would be a sigh of relief for SouthernFried brethren.

That's what your boy, Cenk (D), called for you **** dumb asshole. 

*Roshambo » 31 Aug 2026, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2026, 9:15 am

The legalization of bestiality would would be a sigh of relief for SouthernFried brethren.

GOATFONDLER » 02 Sep 2026, 12:19 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2026, 12:19 am

That's what your boy, Cenk (D), called for you **** dumb asshole.

You really are a **** idiot.

 
 
 
 

michaelf » 01 Sep 2026, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2026, 3:14 pm

In most states it's illegal to interfere with or harass hunters who are legally hunting. I guess we need much stiffer penalties.

Those aren't wild horses they're feral horses. They are an introduced species and a detriment to native wildlife. They don't belong there. They usually only bring "meat" price if that. For someone looking for a horse they really aren't worth the cost of the hay that they burn or the fuel and time to transport them. Try one some time, you'll be sorry you did. LOL.

There are lots of hungry people and horse makes a good enough meal.

The presence of European settlers in North America can be viewed as an invasive force that disrupted the lives and cultures of Native American populations, who were the original inhabitants of the land. Do you see where this is going?
 

*Roshambo » 02 Sep 2026, 3:40 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2026, 3:40 am

The presence of European settlers in North America can be viewed as an invasive force that disrupted the lives and cultures of Native American populations, who were the original inhabitants of the land. Do you see where this is going?

People are not an invasive species. European people are the same species as "native American" people... who didn't start out here either. Do you see where this is going?

Then there's the fact that the topic of the thread was feral horses. We have all sorts of programs and agencies working to limit or get rid of introduced and invasive species from insects to plants and fish. The only reason feral horses get treated differently is that a bunch of science denying goofs decided that we need them around for something and dumped a ton of money into it. 

 

michaelf » 02 Sep 2026, 5:42 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2026, 5:42 am

People are not an invasive species. European people are the same species as "native American" people... who didn't start out here either. Do you see where this is going?

Then there's the fact that the topic of the thread was feral horses. We have all sorts of programs and agencies working to limit or get rid of introduced and invasive species from insects to plants and fish. The only reason feral horses get treated differently is that a bunch of science denying goofs decided that we need them around for something and dumped a ton of money into it.

According to MAGAs people are invading the USA and other countries as well. SouthernFried is rooting for a civil war.
I consider MAGAs as vermin. 

 
 

*Roshambo » 02 Sep 2026, 7:26 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2026, 7:26 am

According to MAGAs people are invading the USA and other countries as well. SouthernFried is rooting for a civil war.
I consider MAGAs as vermin.

Your comment is completely off topic, irrelevant and of no interest at all.

michaelf » 03 Sep 2026, 6:30 am » wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2026, 6:30 am

Your comment is completely off topic, irrelevant and of no interest at all.

That's the 'Shamboner biography.

michaelf » 03 Sep 2026, 6:30 am » wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2026, 6:30 am

Your comment is completely off topic, irrelevant and of no interest at all.

um wutt?

michaelf » 02 Sep 2026, 5:42 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2026, 5:42 am

People are not an invasive species.

 
 

That's correct. People aren't an invasive species but nations have laws and borders. People can violate those laws and borders by committing "illegal entry" (a federal crime) and "illegal reentry" (a federal felony).

michaelf » 03 Sep 2026, 6:48 am » wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2026, 6:48 am

That's correct. People aren't an invasive species but nations have laws and borders. People can violate those laws and borders by committing "illegal entry" (a federal crime) and "illegal reentry" (a federal felony).

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