There is no Ukraine. No Such State Exists.

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Blackvegetable » 32 minutes ago » wrote: List your sources.

Dive into your Vanity Fair Archives and post your picture of Putin with Svengali....then call Vegas and tell him about confirmation bias, Fredo.
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 3:48 pm » wrote: The thread title is not my claim. It is Russia's claim. 

I just happen to agree with Moscow, 100%.

Consider Russia's argument, and see if you agree.

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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: Does your grandchild know that you're a coward?

No, he thinks I'm a message board profiler.....
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Blackvegetable » 12 minutes ago » wrote: Does your grandchild know that you're a coward?
Will your daughter ever understand her own brain obeying what you believe possible since your own date of birth the generation prior to your daughter's conception by you and a mate? Or is your daughter a step child created by two other soles? Rhetorical question I don't need an answer for. You are a self deceptionist demanding everyone else practice that behavior too.

State of mind is context over chromosomes choosing how to behave each heartbeat added forward now since born into one's specific DNA streaming of current events as specifically displaced by longitude, latitude, ancestral platitude, individual attitude, hemisphere positioned in this atmosphere now.

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Blackvegetable » Today, 5:12 am » wrote: List your sources.
Said a weak queer queerly.

 Let's start with Ukrainska Pravda.
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ROG62 » Today, 5:47 am » wrote: Like the old man saying “you’re dead to me!” ???
Much like that, only framed as for a court case. The legalisms are pretty profound. Russia had a legitimate claim to that territory, and it placed conditions on recognizing Ukraine's sovereignty. Ukraine promised to meed those conditions, and for 24 years it DID meet them. Then there came the US coup, and the ukies were transformed into kurds. And now they are dying like kurds.

Being a US enemy is dangerous. Ask Iran. Being a US friend is even MORE dangerous. Ask South Vietnam. Ask the Iraqi Bathists. Ask the Kurds. 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 57 minutes ago » wrote: Said a weak queer queerly.

Let's start with the Telegraph, gay boy: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/art ... p_catchall

Here's NBC, jackass: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/russia/pu ... rcna232876

Here's fox news ballyhooing it, cretin: https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-intel- ... ion-report

National Security Journal: https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the ... k-on-nato/

Here's european pravda with Carsten Breuner, Germany's defense Chief, suggesting as much: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/05/15/8034766/

That's five, ***. Need fivbe more? 

Yes/No
Google will confirm anything.

There's a spectrum if opinion on the matter....and everyone's gotta make a living.

Any or all of those outcomes are plausible.
 
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 10:05 pm » wrote: It's a legal argument - not "propaganda." When you find yourself calling anything and everything one side says "propaganda," you become part of the problem. You make matters ireeconcilable, since language is no longer language but a dirty word instead. Nothing is left but sticks and stones, once you fromally reject language as a means to end a war. 

Russia DID raise the issue AT THE TIME that Coupkraine broke the Big Treaty of Friendship (Russia's formal recognition of Ukraine's sovereignty, based on Ukraine obeying the treaty - which treaty incorporated the pledges made in the Declaration of Independence). In response to Coupkraine breaking the treaty, Russia took Crimea and began to back the separatists in the oblasts which did not agree with the coup. At the start of the SMO, Russia offered Coupkraine their original borders, minus Crimea - but they had to embrace again the three pledges on which Russia's agreement to recognize their state was based: Non-nuclear, non-aligned, neutral. Ukraine was the solid wall of neutrality and non-alignment between NATO and Moscow, which served the LEGITIMATE insterests of all parties. 

What you need to understand is that when a coup takes place, not everyone is going to recognize the coup. Some will remain loyal. 

In the case of Russian speaking oblasts, remaining loyal was a no-brainer, because the first thing the coup government did was to outlaw the languages of minority Ukrainians. This affects Hungarians, Romainians, Poles, and Russians. That's a problem for people, having their language outlawed. To this day, Hungary is blocking Coupkraine's EU accession steps because of their persecution of ethnic Hungarians on the shared border.

As to Kiev being the original capital of the Rus, that is correct. But the Rus moved their capital. So what? There was no Ukraine until Russia said so. That's a fact. Kiev being their original capiitol is an excuse and a complaint - not a relevant aspect of the issues the war is being fought about.
I will wager dollars to donuts you don't even know what the issue of the war ARE. .
This is exactly why I remain distanced from mincing and parsing in this "chatroom". It becomes a typing exercise in tedium almost every time. Challenging my knowledge of something you obviously follow with fervor. I find ANY detail out-of-whack and out come the knives.

The Russians (Rus) came from Scandinavian areas centuries after Kiev was established. Gosh, they didn't call it a country... Ukraine probably didn't even exist as a word then. Neither did Russian btw. Acting all "sovereign" about a narrative and ignoring that a "sovereign" status was unleashed almost 4 decades ago borders on hypocritical. (Germany and Japan ain't a'sposeta arm themselves either cuz WW2 says they wuz bad once.)
**** changes over time.

The Evil Russian Empire didn't really cut them loose so all other viewpoints are dead?
That "empire" crap is ok, even though our empire **** is the worst thing ever.

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Everything is propaganda when only the convenient facts are used. Like stats and "legal hogwash"...
 
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Cannonpointer » Today, 8:41 am » wrote: Said a weak queer queerly.

Let's start with the Telegraph, gay boy: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/art ... p_catchall

Here's NBC, jackass: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/russia/pu ... rcna232876

Here's fox news ballyhooing it, cretin: https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-intel- ... ion-report

National Security Journal: https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the ... k-on-nato/

Here's european pravda with Carsten Breuner, Germany's defense Chief, suggesting as much: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/05/15/8034766/

That's five, ***. Need fivbe more? 

Yes/No

 
There is one word in your post that states all that is needed to understand 5 sources of hypothetical standard set by relative time logistics over actual time living adapting to space now.

that word is suggesting.
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DeezerShoove » Today, 12:02 pm » wrote: This is exactly why I remain distanced from mincing and parsing in this "chatroom". It becomes a typing exercise in tedium almost every time. Challenging my knowledge of something you obviously follow with fervor. I find ANY detail out-of-whack and out come the knives.

The Russians (Rus) came from Scandinavian areas centuries after Kiev was established. Gosh, they didn't call it a country... Ukraine probably didn't even exist as a word then. Neither did Russian btw. Acting all "sovereign" about a narrative and ignoring that a "sovereign" status was unleashed almost 4 decades ago borders on hypocritical. (Germany and Japan ain't a'sposeta arm themselves either cuz WW2 says they wuz bad once.)
**** changes over time.

The Evil Russian Empire didn't really cut them loose so all other viewpoints are dead?
That "empire" crap is ok, even though our empire **** is the worst thing ever.

I'm tired of typing for now.  Image  

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Everything is propaganda when only the convenient facts are used. Like stats and "legal hogwash"...
Y'know that thing about how things change over time?

Coupkraine will be a land-locked rump state soon, and its primary economic engines will continue to be porn, selling kids to euro-elites, and call centers. There likely won't be any more biological warfare laboratories.

But we can definitely agree that **** changes over time. The 24 years DC allowed Ukraine were a gift, I suppose.
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Blackvegetable » Today, 9:34 am » wrote: Google will confirm anything.

There's a spectrum if opinion on the matter....and everyone's gotta make a living.

Any or all of those outcomes are plausible.
All three of those statements are true.

But they all ignore the point.

The people saying Russia is a dead dog in the road farting its very last gas? They're the exact same people declaring it is a looming threat on which trillions of euros (with a t) must be spent.That old saying, "Ya can't have it both way"? Yeah - they're not buying it.

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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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Cannonpointer » 7 minutes ago » wrote: All three of those statements are true.

But they all ignore the point.

The people saying Russia is a dead dog in the road farting its very last gas? They're the exact same people declaring it is a looming threat on which trillions of euros (with a t) must be spent.That old saying, "Ya can't have it both way"? Yeah - they're not buying it.
 
Michelle and Brigitte are men.
And they can bench press a hell of a lot more than your lightweights

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Cannonpointer » 10 minutes ago » wrote: Y'know that thing about how things change over time?
 
Called evolving in space since conceived into a specific ancestral lineage, generation gap, gendered body ancestor adapting in series parallel time by heartbeats from their ever changing original form as a fertilized cell created by previous specific 2 generation gap ancestors, one male and one female with each child being either or not neither nor.
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sole » 5 minutes ago » wrote: Called evolving in space since conceived into a specific ancestral lineage, generation gap, gendered body ancestor adapting in series parallel time by heartbeats from their ever changing original form as a fertilized cell created by previous generation gap ancestors, 2 specific persons being one male and one female reproducing each child being either or not neither nor.
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Johnny You » 3 minutes ago » wrote: There is no SOLE.. YOU does not exist..


 
yet here I am as a single male ancestor of the human species living in series parallel time artificially defined by relative time logistics context over evolving content regardless periodic molecular elements or cellular chromosomes of each ancestor uniquely alive daily here.
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Cannonpointer » 20 minutes ago » wrote: Y'know that thing about how things change over time?

Coupkraine will be a land-locked rump state soon, and its primary economic engines will continue to be porn, selling kids to euro-elites, and call centers. There likely won't be any more biological warfare laboratories.

But we can definitely agree that **** changes over time. The 24 years DC allowed Ukraine were a gift, I suppose.

Personally I hope the Evil Empire annexation is completed soon.
The Ukies (sovereign or not) kinda let things slide into oblivion.
Maybe Putin and his KGB can slap some kind of dictatorial rule into place.
They gotta be better'n the CIA, right?
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sole » Today, 5:11 pm » wrote: yet here I am as a single male ancestor of the human species living in series parallel time artificially defined by relative time logistics context over evolving content regardless periodic molecular elements or cellular chromosomes of each ancestor uniquely alive daily here as biologically positioned by ancestral lineage, generation gap, gender, longitude, latitude, platitude, attitude of being an intellectually superior mind than any brain alive today.

Social pride before the downfall of their own reality imploding in plain sight because everyone pretending now isn't eternity doesn't know how to balance as eternally separated in plain sight..
Welcome to the Idiocracy.
 
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 11:12 pm » wrote: I can't help that Vanity Fair is more interested in fiction than in reportage, fruity. 

For all of the squeezing and resulting inefficiency - and I object to neither claim, - Russia has an enormous advantage over the west. The government controls the MIC. In the west, the MIC controls the government, forcing it to fight with whatever weapons it pleases the MIC to sell. 

What a hundred cardboard drones does to a patriot battery is a source of mirth for the very gods of Olympus. 

PS - FYI, "they" are the european press. Europe is a continent east of here. In fact, it's where Ukraine is.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/W/BW_ ... L1500_.jpg

For the record, I disagree with the inclusion of Turkey.

Also, Greece, Italy, and Albania. 

And Kosovo.

C'mon, man... Is Pluto still a planet, too?

Seriously, I don't believe many people know half of Europe is Russia.
Dere bees some dum muvfukkers out heres.
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