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Misty » 28 Aug 2019 12:55 pm » wrote: FIFO?
First in, first out?

Yes.

You're arguing with clem job, and I have a previous question in.

It wasn't rhetorical - I am genuinely curious to understand how you people - I said it - rationalize away something as in-your-face go-****-yourself-ish as Obama and gore purchasing beach front properties, whiling gulling you to believe in ongoing and impending sea level rise.

[Please cite in the Mueller Report
where it claimed he did commit crimes, psycho.

I won't hold my breath.
/quote]

Mueller explained in his report that under longstanding DOJ policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office.

I didn't ask about indictment, psycho.

I asked if Mueller expressed an opinion if Trump had committed any crimes.

That is not only legal to express, but Barr specifically asked him to do so.

Mueller refused and left it to Barr and the Justice Dept. and they determined that Trump had committed no crimes.

No illegal collusion or conspiracy.

No obstruction of justice.

No crimes whatsoever.

Psychopaths like you shriek and lie and smear on the basis of zero evidence.

[qujote]But this is what he said:

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts, that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.”

So he did NOT say that Trump committed 'no crimes whatsoever' you liar.

I never claimed he did, psycho, speaking of lying.

And his statement was a blatant violation of important, longstanding Justice Dept. guidelines and an abuse of power.

Not that you give a rat's ***.

This is the last time I will respond to one of your posts if you remove the snapback to my quote.

I don't care, wackjob.

Take all your lies, **** and smears and go **** yourself.

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 12:58 pm » wrote:

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 12:55 pm » wrote:FIFO?
First in, first out?

Yes.
You're arguing with clem job, and I have a previous question in.
It wasn't rhetorical - I am genuinely curious to understand how you people - I said it - rationalize away something as in-your-face go-****-yourself-ish as Obama and gore purchasing beach front properties, whiling gulling you to believe in ongoing and impending sea level rise.

I don't know.
Maybe because their property is not projected to be swallowed up by the ocean in their lifetime.

Here's a question for you.
Why does Trump want to build a seawall at his golf course in Ireland if he doesn't believe that sea level is rising?

As Politico detailed during the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump International Golf Links sought to build a seawall to protect a golf course he owns in Ireland from “global warming and its effects.”

In a permit application for the wall, Trump International Golf Links cited scientific studies indicating that a rise in sea level could result in damaging erosion in a bay near the golf course.

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/27/18114338 ... se-ireland

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 11:27 am » wrote: Then you obviously are not paying attention.

Pretty sure that the people whose land he is going to seize in order to build his wall won't feel like he is making their life a dream.

I don't think the people who are losing their farms are having much fun either.

I guess that's the only arrow you have left in your quiver.........TDS.

His presidency has not affected my life either way, but I still have compassion for those that it has.
Like the children with cancer he is about to deport who will probably die.

He already deported one sick person who died because he could not get insulin.


Trump made his life a real dream, didn't he?
He was deported to a country that he never knew, where he didn't speak the language.

1. The land is not worth much, won't grow anything and they will be well compensated for it. No different than losing land due to eminent domain for an interstate exit ramp.

2. To my knowledge, no one has lost a farm.

3. Is anyone being deported that came here legally?

Now, how about the millions that lost their insurance because of barrycare. Where is your compassion for them?

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 3:17 pm » wrote: I don't know.
Maybe because their property is not projected to be swallowed up by the ocean in their lifetime

Yes it is.

According to them it is

That's a cop out. Your answer rests in a lie, making it no answer at all.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 3:17 pm » wrote:
Here's a question for you.
Why does Trump want to build a seawall at his golf course in Ireland if he doesn't believe that sea level is rising?

This is the first I've heard of it, but I DO know that there are millions of sea walls that were NOT built because of impending and ongoing sea level rise.

Millions.

Sea walls can be useful against erosion or freak waves. They probably serve other functions - I'm not a sea wallologist. He probably has a technocrat telling him they need it - I mean, I doubt very seriously that he just looked on a map, found this particular property, and said, "We'd best put a sea wall here because of rising oceans, even though obama and gore both live in mansions on the beach."

What is YOUR theory - that trump secretly believes in sea level rise and gore and obama do not?

Why would trump building a sea wall signify ANYTHING to - even register with - a person who can blithely accept obama and gore living on the beach, with zero cognitive dissonance? If you paid as much attention to information that confutes your silly theories as you do to that which makes you salivate (all things trump), you might actually be a bit embarrassed at how silly y'all look when your leaders just rub their dicks in your faces by purchasing beachfront while getting you rubes hysterical over "disappearing islands," climate refugees," and "cities that will soon be underwater."

crimsongulf » 28 Aug 2019 4:14 pm » wrote: Now, how about the millions that lost their insurance because of barrycare. Where is your compassion for them?

We sent out a search party for it, some months back. It hasn't been heard from in many weeks.

Maybe they died in the amazon forest fires. Ya know you can see those **** things FROM SPACE???!!

crimsongulf » 28 Aug 2019 4:14 pm » wrote:

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 11:27 am » wrote:Pretty sure that the people whose land he is going to seize in order to build his wall won't feel like he is making their life a dream.

1. The land is not worth much, won't grow anything and they will be well compensated for it.

Tell that to the people who own that land, like cattle ranchers.
Or to this Native American tribe.

A border tribe, and the wall that will divide it.

I'm sure you would have said the same thing if Obama had told his people to take people's land, and even and if they had to break the law to do it he would pardon them, right?

crimsongulf » 28 Aug 2019 4:14 pm » wrote:2. To my knowledge, no one has lost a farm.

Farm bankruptcies rise as Trump's trade war grinds on.

crimsongulf » 28 Aug 2019 4:14 pm » wrote:3. Is anyone being deported that came here legally?

Actually U.S. citizens have been detained and deported.

Under a program called 'medical deferred action' sick kids were allowed to stay here while they were being treated for serious diseases like cancer.

Trump is now ending that program, because cruelty is the policy.

crimsongulf » 28 Aug 2019 4:14 pm » wrote:Now, how about the millions that lost their insurance because of barrycare. Where is your compassion for them?

How about all the people who gained health insurance under Obamacare?
Aren't you happy for them?

Anyway, that 'millions' figure is an iffy right wing talking point.

Critics of the law now say millions lost their health insurance. But that’s misleading.

Those individual market plans were discontinued, but policyholders weren’t denied coverage.

And the question is, how many millions of insured Americans had plans canceled, and how does that compare with the millions of uninsured Americans who gained coverage under the law.

There is evidence that far more have gained coverage than had their policies canceled.

It’s true that insurance companies discontinued health plans that had covered millions of people who had bought them directly rather than through an employer.

That’s because those plans didn’t meet the coverage standards of the new law.

But those policyholders didn’t lose the ability to have insurance.

In most cases, insurers offered them an alternative plan, though there were some instances of companies exiting the individual market altogether.

Whether offered an alternative or not, individuals could shop for insurance on the federal and state marketplaces, or through a broker or insurance carrier directly.

Many were likely eligible for federal subsidies to help pay for insurance, resulting in better coverage and lower rates for some.

https://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/millions-lost-insurance/

Huey » 28 Aug 2019 7:29 pm » wrote:

Misty » 06 Aug 2017 1:44 pm » wrote:

TheAmerican » 04 Aug 2017 11:40 pm » wrote:YOUR party has been losing seats since 2010!!!! Thanks to the community organizer!Nice try!

I have never been registered in the Democratic party, and actually right now I am a registered Republican.
I registered as a Republican to vote in the primaries last year, and have not yet changed back to 'no affiliation' which is what I was before that and have always been.

Huey posted that here in order to paint me as a liar, but he left out my reply.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 5:30 pm » wrote:I could have worded that better.
Like many people here, The American was referring to the Democratic Party as 'my party' but as I have said several times I was only registered as a Democrat for a very short period of time during the 2008 primary season to allow me to vote in that election.

So I do not consider myself as ever having been a registered Democrat, and that's why I said it that way.
I was registered as a Democrat for convenience only and very temporarily.

I just dug up my old voter registration card from NY from when I changed my affiliation from unaffiliated to Democrat in order to vote in the 2008 Primary Election.
Unfortunately my scanner doesn't work, so the best I could do was take a picture of it with my tablet.

Huey knows the truth that I had to register as a Democrat for a very short period of time in order to vote in the 2008 Primary Election, because he was in on this exchange:

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 7:26 pm » wrote:

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 3:17 pm » wrote:I don't know.
Maybe because their property is not projected to be swallowed up by the ocean in their lifetime

Yes it is.
According to them it is.

You have a link of them saying that sea level is going to rise enough to swallow up their houses in their lifetime?
If they really believed that, they would never have bought a house on the water.

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 7:26 pm » wrote:

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 3:17 pm » wrote:Here's a question for you.
Why does Trump want to build a seawall at his golf course in Ireland if he doesn't believe that sea level is rising?

This is the first I've heard of it, but I DO know that there are millions of sea walls that were NOT built because of impending and ongoing sea level rise.
Millions.

And his is not one of them.

The New York billionaire is applying for permission to erect a coastal protection works to prevent erosion at his seaside golf resort, Trump International Golf Links & Hotel Ireland, in County Clare.

A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 7:26 pm » wrote:What is YOUR theory - that trump secretly believes in sea level rise and gore and obama do not?

No. That Trump is a **** artist who pretends not believe in sea level rise, while he applies for a permit to build a seawall at his golf resort citing that very reason, and that both Obama and Gore know that the sea is not going to swallow up their homes any time soon.

A Terrifying Sea-Level Prediction Now Looks Far Less Likely

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote: You have a link of them saying that sea level is going to rise enough to swallow up their houses in their lifetime?

If you DON'T believe in ongoing and impending sea level rise, you're a "denier." And a mere foot of rise will "swallow up" the liveability of those homes. You demand a link proving Obama isn't a "denier." That is a dishonest request.

Do you have a link of trump saying climate change is a hoax?

I'm not chasing links to prove that gore and Obama push sea level rise - at least not until you prove that Trump is a climate skeptic, and that fox news is skeptical.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote: If they really believed that, they would never have bought a house on the water.

Keep repeating that until you understand it, sweetheart. That's what I'm trying to wake you up to. If ya believe in ongoing and impending sea level rise you don't buy a house on the beach - duh. Keep repeating it. Just keep repeating it. It might wake you up.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote: No. That Trump is a **** artist who pretends not believe in sea level rise, while he applies for a permit to build a seawall at his golf resort citing that very reason,

Yeah, *** pulls like this desperation ^ require a link, sweetie. I'm not taking the word of some partisan ditz who can swallow ACC-pushers buying ocean front property. Link it or you're lying.

EDIT - I see the politico link. If it's true - and I mean the if, I'll be checking it for fakeness, - I don't care. Trump is a liar. If he wants a sea wall, and citing sea level rise cuts the red tape, he cite it. Then there's the question of who really sought the permit. Are you saying Donnie flew to Ireland, filled it our and and walked it to the office? Does your story even claim he knew about it?

Like I say - Ima check it out, not that it matters. I KNOW trump is a liar. I've never pretended otherwise.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote: and that both Obama and Gore know that the sea is not going to swallow up their homes any time soon.

Yeah - I know they know. And you know they know. And I know you know they know. And now, you know I know you know they know.

They've been lying, and getting you to buy those lies and repeat those lies and defend those lies, and now they dick-slap you idiots by purchasing ocean front property. And you take it across the chops and keep drinking the koolaid and pretend that isn't a game changer.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote: A Terrifying Sea-Level Prediction Now Looks Far Less Likely

Oh, look - you can actually ADMIT your kooky cult is based on hyperbolic pseudo-science ****, when it serves your immediate partisan shuffle. That is extraordinary.

So, trump is a liar, and obama and gore are perfectly innocent when they push sea level rise panic and then buy ocean front homes.

Okay - got it. I was just looking to measure the depth of your commitment to being dishonest with yourself and all around you.

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 8:58 pm » wrote:

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote:You have a link of them saying that sea level is going to rise enough to swallow up their houses in their lifetime?

If you DON'T believe in ongoing and impending sea level rise, you're a "denier." And a mere foot of rise will "swallow up" the liveability of those homes.

Do you have any proof that sea level is predicted to rise by a foot in Obama and Gore's lifetime?
The link I gave you said a foot of sea-level rise by 2100.

Obama is 58.
Gore is 71.

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 8:58 pm » wrote:Do you have a link of trump saying climate change is a hoax?

Seriously? He must have said that a hundred times.
You never heard it?







I'm too tired to deal with the rest of your post right now.
Goodnight.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 8:26 pm » wrote: No. That Trump is a **** artist who pretends not believe in sea level rise, while he applies for a permit to build a seawall at his golf resort citing that very reason,

Okay, I fact checked the claim that trump "believes in sea level rise."

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/polit ... in-ireland
Trump has been attempting to secure permission for his proposed wall since shortly after he purchased the golf course and resort in February 2014 for an estimated $10 million. The powerful storms that lashed Ireland that winter caused over 25 feet of frontage along the course’s coastal edge to erode. On the 18-hole course, the 14th hole was washed away and the 5th, 9th and 18th holes were damaged.

Looks to me like Trump believes in getting his sea wall because he needs it now, against what is happening already, and not because he believes sea levels are rising or will do so in the future. Trump will say whatever gets him what he wants - that is not news to anyone.

I give your hysteria over trump's aplication a third of a boner (one chub), and I award your ability to overlook your zeros purchasing ocean front property after inciting sea level panic three grabbed pussies. Three grabbed pussies is at the top of the scale. You're a "winner."

[url=https://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1262615#p1262615]Misty » 28 Aug 2019 9:18 pm[/url] » wrote:
Do you have any proof that sea level is predicted to rise by a foot in Obama and Gore's lifetime?
The link I gave you said a foot of sea-level rise by 2100.

Obama is 58.
Gore is 71.

Seriously? He must have said that a hundred times.
You never heard it?

I just wanted to reward your dishonesty in defending Obama and gore. You still didn't prove that fox is skeptical on climate change. I need that, as soon as possible.

Misty » 28 Aug 2019 9:18 pm » wrote: I'm too tired to deal with the rest of your post right now.
Goodnight.

The link you gave me is a perfunctory retraction of a failed prediction, followed by a worse prediction, but later. That is your team's M.O.

This fellow purchased a 9 million dollar mansion on the beach. Misty questions whether gore ever predicted sea level rise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KkrlhoFbBM

Some people are too stupid to live.

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2019 9:32 pm » wrote:This fellow purchased a 9 million dollar mansion on the beach. Misty questions whether gore ever predicted sea level rise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KkrlhoFbBM

I never questioned any such thing.
I don't give a **** about Al Gore or how he chooses to spend his money.

I guess you forgot that this is supposed to be a humor thread.

If I wanted to get into a long drawn out debate on climate change I would go into one of the many threads on that subject.
I don't do that because it's about as productive as repeatedly bashing my head into a brick wall.

BTW, Gore bought that house in Montecito in 2010.
The house has an ocean view but it is not on the beach.
It is about three miles from the beach and six hundred feet up a hillside.

The beach by the Obama's house in Martha's Vineyard, is not on the ocean.
It is on the Edgartown Great Pond which I'm pretty sure won't be affected by sea level rise.

That's not the ocean in this pic of their house.
It's a pond.

The orange skidmark thinks that FOX News works for him.
He's even pissing off the folks at FOX now.

Misty » 29 Aug 2019 1:02 am » wrote:
I never questioned any such thing.
I don't give a **** about Al Gore or how he chooses to spend his money.

I guess you forgot that this is supposed to be a humor thread.

If I wanted to get into a long drawn out debate on climate change I would go into one of the many threads on that subject.
I don't do that because it's about as productive as repeatedly bashing my head into a brick wall.

BTW, Gore bought that house in Montecito in 2010.
The house has an ocean view but it is not on the beach.
It is about three miles from the beach and six hundred feet up a hillside.

The beach by the Obama's house in Martha's Vineyard, is not on the ocean.
It is on the Edgartown Great Pond which I'm pretty sure won't be affected by sea level rise.

That's not the ocean in this pic of their house.
It's a pond.

Oh, look - fresh talking points on a subject you'd rather not discuss.

Okay, my bad on the thread pick.

A humorous meme for the humor thread.