THE GLORY HOLE CLEM THREAD

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AmazonTania
17 Feb 2014 10:08 pm
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thelion » 17 Feb 2014 10:06 pm » wrote:
Nope. Used to, though. Right up to 2008, when it became obvious that Rupert's poison had destroyed the WSJ's journalism and reduced them to propaganda.
With additions to some new staffing, the same journalist have written for the WSJ for years, probably decades.

At this point, I'm convinced you're probably making this up.
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bingster
17 Feb 2014 10:11 pm
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golfboy » 17 Feb 2014 3:18 pm » wrote:Off topic spam.
Wow, good job dropping the "off topic spam" and just saying "off topic span". You're maturing. You should feel good about yourself.
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onlyaladd
17 Feb 2014 10:15 pm
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AmazonTania » 17 Feb 2014 9:58 pm » wrote:
You don't have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal, do you?

You'd be very surprised who writes for it, that is, if you bothered to pay the $22.26 a month for it.
Why would you pay for what you have to know is propaganda?
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thelion
17 Feb 2014 10:21 pm
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AmazonTania » 17 Feb 2014 10:08 pm » wrote: With additions to some new staffing, the same journalist have written for the WSJ for years, probably decades.

At this point, I'm convinced you're probably making this up.
Deny the reality of the WSJ's history and Rupert's record of ousting anyone (against his own promises) who opposed his shredding of journalistic integrity.

Denying reality is what Cons are best at.
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bingster
17 Feb 2014 10:21 pm
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RichClem » 17 Feb 2014 3:50 pm » wrote:
Amazing that an ignorant imbecile would give so much weight to her own worthless opinion. :loco:

Hey moonbat, why do publications like the WSJ, IBD and Forbes sell? :\
For the same reason Fox News is popular: our country is full of morons!!!...moron.
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AmazonTania
17 Feb 2014 10:22 pm
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onlyaladd » 17 Feb 2014 10:15 pm » wrote: Why would you pay for what you have to know is propaganda?
The WSJ is one of the oldest publications for economic, market and financial analysis and information, referenced in many scholarly databases. You're going to have a difficult time convincing intellectual thinking people that one of the most used financial sources is propaganda.

Or perhaps you're basing your perception on what you believe about the WSJ from the sections they let you read for free...
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AmazonTania
17 Feb 2014 10:24 pm
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thelion » 17 Feb 2014 10:21 pm » wrote:
Deny the reality of the WSJ's history and Rupert's record of ousting anyone (against his own promises) who opposed his shredding of journalistic integrity.

Denying reality is what Cons are best at.
It's really not a secret that most of the editors and columnist have been at the WSJ for a long time.

My goodness, all you have to do is look at their staff page..

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 8888060011
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Cannonpointer
18 Feb 2014 1:10 am
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AmazonTania » 17 Feb 2014 10:08 pm » wrote:
With additions to some new staffing, the same journalist have written for the WSJ for years, probably decades.

At this point, I'm convinced you're probably making this up.
The same people for years and years, you say? All the more reason they want to keep their jobs and will predictably kowtow to management.

I used to read the WSJ, then I learned to think for myself.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile

"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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Cannonpointer
18 Feb 2014 1:11 am
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bingster » 17 Feb 2014 10:11 pm » wrote:
Wow, good job dropping the "off topic spam" and just saying "off topic span". You're maturing. You should feel good about yourself.
Actually, he posted off topic spam, trying to drag a fight in another thread into this thread. He got edited. By me.

This thread is about posting original material versus puking talking points a la Glory Hole Clem.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile

"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer
18 Feb 2014 1:16 am
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AmazonTania » 17 Feb 2014 10:22 pm » wrote:
The WSJ is one of the oldest publications for economic, market and financial analysis and information, referenced in many scholarly databases. You're going to have a difficult time convincing intellectual thinking people that one of the most used financial sources is propaganda.

Or perhaps you're basing your perception on what you believe about the WSJ from the sections they let you read for free...
That in no way comments on their editorial page, which is what clemmie quotes. The pretense that rupert's paper is not partisan does not serve you, assuming you wish to be perceived as honest or intelligent.

You are not even aware that the federal reserve bank is a private corporation with a money issuing franchise, if I have read your posts correctly. So, what YOU find "scholarly" will not necessarily appear scholarly to people with a GENUINE education (as opposed to folks horribly ruined by indoctrination and pseudo-education).
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile

"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Brattle Street
18 Feb 2014 7:22 am
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WSJ Propaganda Vehicle Foxified

Rupert Murdoch has been busy sullying the Wall Street Journal news department's once impeccable reputation for objectivity. Murdoch made his buddy Robert Thomson the new WSJ editor and made Leslie Hinton the publisher who proceeded to "Fox-ify" the Journal as Joe Nocera described it in his blistering OpEd in the New York Times. Nocera describes the changes at the WSJ like this:

The Journal Becomes Fox-ified.
Within five months, Murdoch had fired the editor and installed his close friend Robert Thomson, fresh from a stint Fox-ifying The Times of London. The new publisher was Leslie Hinton, former boss of the division that published ’s British newspapers, including The News of the World. (He resigned on Friday.) Soon came the changes, swift and sure: shorter articles, less depth, an increased emphasis on politics and, weirdly, sometimes surprisingly unsophisticated coverage of business.

Along with the transformation of a great paper into a mediocre one came a change that was both more subtle and more insidious. The political articles grew more and more slanted toward the Republican party line.
The Journal sometimes took to using the word “Democrat” as an adjective instead of a noun, a usage favored by the right wing. In her book, “War at The Wall Street Journal,” Sarah Ellison recounts how editors inserted the phrase “assault on business” in an article about corporate taxes under President Obama. The Journal was turned into a propaganda vehicle for its owner’s conservative views. That’s half the definition of Fox-ification
Nocera also writes about the softball interview the Journal editors conducted with Murdoch where the thorniest questions were not asked.
On Friday, however, the coverage went all the way to craven. The paper published an interview with Murdoch that might as well have been dictated by the News Corporation public relations department.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/1 ... tive-views#
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RichClem
18 Feb 2014 7:26 am
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greatnpowerfuloz » 17 Feb 2014 4:44 pm » wrote: I can attest to the fact that we both read it religiously while enjoying a post-coital cigarette.

Any more questions about our personal life, pervert?
Another liberal melts down into ignorance, evasions and bulls***.

Congrats on fitting the stereotype. :\
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Brattle Street
18 Feb 2014 7:29 am
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RichClem » 18 Feb 2014 7:26 am » wrote:
Another liberal melts down into ignorance, evasions and bulls***.

Congrats on fitting the stereotype. :\
more sheer propaganda troll crap
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RichClem
18 Feb 2014 7:29 am
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Cannonpointer » 17 Feb 2014 4:54 pm » wrote:I wonder if that retarded, harrumphing *** has taken any note of the poll? The score is currently 100% against his position, in favor of mine.
Largely because you mis-represented my claim in the question, so you're just being dishonest.

And yes, as usual the board's imbeciles and liars side with a psychotic.

Next time get a list of the names so we can have a laugh.
On a board where people sling competing talking points ad nauseam, clemtard attacked me for the SPECIFIC FAUX PAS of posting my own opinions, without googling any talking points to back them up.

I ggogled the phrase "Carter economy better than reagan" and I was the [flash] second[/flash] NOW FIRST! link. https://www.google.com/#q=carter+econom ... han+reagan

I have been pilloried for being original. :die:
No, you're being pillories for being stupid, ignorant and psychotic.

You want to deny established reality on the basis of google searches and your idiocy?

Hilarious. :rofl:
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thelion
18 Feb 2014 7:29 am
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Brattle Street » 18 Feb 2014 7:22 am » wrote:WSJ Propaganda Vehicle Foxified

Rupert Murdoch has been busy sullying the Wall Street Journal news department's once impeccable reputation for objectivity. Murdoch made his buddy Robert Thomson the new WSJ editor and made Leslie Hinton the publisher who proceeded to "Fox-ify" the Journal as Joe Nocera described it in his blistering OpEd in the New York Times. Nocera describes the changes at the WSJ like this: Nocera also writes about the softball interview the Journal editors conducted with Murdoch where the thorniest questions were not asked.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/1 ... tive-views#
Watch this Atazon Mania creature simply deny it in three, two, one...
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RichClem
18 Feb 2014 7:39 am
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greatnpowerfuloz » 17 Feb 2014 5:56 pm » wrote:

And all without ever once providing evidence of the deceit and lies. Which is truly remarkable as I can and have cited those deceit and lies on numerous occasions with none of the obsessive need to do so, which you possess.
I've documented the deceit and lies for literally decades on debate boards, including for several years the Time Magazine debate board. And the inevitable response from liberals is either silence or bulls***.
Why have you failed so miserably to provide the same evidence, I as a liberal, have provided?
About the Carter vs. Reagan years?

I have cited a number of excellent sources, and not one single liberal responded to them.

Big freaking surprise. :\


All of your sources are opinions. You've admitted this and have stood behind it proudly.

So what? The use of logic

The entire **** world knows that opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them. You seem to be in touch with more assholes than I. What does that say about you?

Does it make you better than me because you've been intimate with a greater number of assholes in your lifetime than I?

I'm a magnanimous soul. I will give you credit for that accomplishment.
More utter idiocy from an imbecile.

How unbelievably stupid that you call the best sources (for a conservative) "a**holes while ignoring the facts, logic and analysis they offer.

Yet claim that the stupid, ignorant opinions of you moonbats are valid. :rofl:

The idiocy of that is painfully obvious, but you'll miss it.
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RichClem
18 Feb 2014 7:41 am
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thelion » 17 Feb 2014 10:06 pm » wrote: Nope. Used to, though. Right up to 2008, when it became obvious that Rupert's poison had destroyed the WSJ's journalism and reduced them to propaganda.
Actually, after Murdoch took over, there seems to be slightly more liberals and Democrat mouthpieces carried. Other than that, little change.

So I strongly suspect you're just lying.

Your consistent ignorance supports that.
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golfboy
18 Feb 2014 7:45 am
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bingster » 17 Feb 2014 10:11 pm » wrote:
Wow, good job dropping the "off topic spam" and just saying "off topic span". You're maturing. You should feel good about yourself.
I didn't post that, clearly some moderator changed my post.
Did you do that, or was it the ball-less wonder, Cannon?
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golfboy
18 Feb 2014 7:46 am
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onlyaladd » 17 Feb 2014 10:15 pm » wrote: Why would you pay for what you have to know is propaganda?
You claim the WSJ is propaganda, but the NY Times, is NOT? :rofl:
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RichClem
18 Feb 2014 7:51 am
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golfboy » 18 Feb 2014 7:46 am » wrote: You claim the WSJ is propaganda, but the NY Times, is NOT? :rofl:
I love how idiots who have never even picked it up, let alone read it for a reasonable period, condemn it. :rofl:
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