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...great video with transcript...monetary ignoramuses like indago, **** creek, dweebzer, et al could learn something much MUCH more important than the **** about which they chronically work their hot dog holes... word...

http://transcriptvids.com/v/XcGh1Dex4Yo.html

here's the video without the transcript:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo&t=5918s

...despite his 'goldbuggishness' this guy [mostly] gets it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ&index=3

Sgt Bilko » 19 Sep 2018 12:39 pm » wrote: I enjoy using science against atheists. They almost always run away. Scientific laws refute them every time.

I thought you operated on faith, not science. Do you know the difference?

https://youtu.be/NYR-B52HtQc

...great radio discussion by some solid monetary realists!...scroll down to sound bar...enjoy and learn...

https://www.monetaryalliance.org/moneta ... -offering/

peepee » 14 May 2020, 1:20 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2020, 1:20 am

...great radio discussion by some solid monetary realists!...scroll down to sound bar...enjoy and learn...

https://www.monetaryalliance.org/moneta ... -offering/

only when it fits your rational mind and shared collective beliefs those controlling the value of currency control the global economic outcomes from personal income per person to nations value in global semantical ranking by statistical averaging numbers to vactualize doubt life is limited to reproductions occupying space are only timed apart when alive here proportionate to numbers present in ever changing shape and form since added as a fertilized cell.

Your mantra is just mantra recited for generations and that doesn't change the physical constants of lifetimes only exist as timed apart here. The total sum past ends here and the future constantly develops from now on.

I get the need for symbolism as a society, my problem is those taking charge won't give credit to natural timing, just their time directing outcomes historically controlling each replacements from now on.

Yes, I see the future is alway unpredictable and realities manage the unpredictable to justificed outcomes. But that was to make life easier for all, not a utopia for the few educating incoming replacements to always blame the replacers for things going wrong, when nobody is allowed to correct the system in place governing replacements each generation forward.

Pride comes before the downfall. Covid-19 is humanity's downfall. You are behind itcoming true.

peepee » 06 Nov 2017, 12:34 am » wrote: ↑

06 Nov 2017, 12:34 am

...hmmmm, now where do i start?...here's an article from a mainstream outfit that i'll use to kick off what i hope will be the most popular thread in political forum history!:

What.....you're primarily into banking-theory....as-opposed-to relatively-current screw-ups????

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film ... ll-street/

Phoenix68.2.0 » 14 May 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2020, 11:40 am

What.....you're primarily into banking-theory....as-opposed-to relatively-current screw-ups????

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film ... ll-street/

Would have loved to have seen that. I watched another one that was good. Called The inside Job. Just shook my head.

sooted up Cyndi » 14 May 2020, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

14 May 2020, 12:13 pm

Would have loved to have seen that.

I'm sure there is someone, nearby, who could turn-you-on to the intricacies of launching hypertext.

Phoenix68.2.0 » 14 May 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2020, 11:40 am

What.....you're primarily into banking-theory....as-opposed-to relatively-current screw-ups????

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film ... ll-street/

....i'm FULLY [not primarily] into 'monetary reality'....not 'banking theory'...i.e. the hideous reality of money creation/money issuance...[a hideous reality about which, tmk, not one republicrat truly understands/appreciates]

...little do republicrats know, but they who control the creation/issuance of money control the entire economic and political processes of the world...

...you'd think everyone would have some honest understanding of 'the money'...especially people who like to work their hot-dog holes about some 'illion dollar economy'...but, for only one example, tmk, not a one of those loud, active, republican-sucking dopes over at .org has any honest understandings of 'the money'...if these goddamned fools did understand 'the money' they would focus on the puppetma$ter$...not the orange puppet trump and the blue puppet biden... and that's the way it is!...

peepee » 08 Jan 2020, 5:23 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2020, 5:23 pm

...great video with transcript...monetary ignoramuses like indago, **** creek, dweebzer, et al could learn something much MUCH more important than the **** about which they chronically work their hot dog holes... word...

http://transcriptvids.com/v/XcGh1Dex4Yo.html

here's the video without the transcript:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo&t=5918s

I would argue, in addition to the "Republicrat sphincters" who are "monetary ignoramuses," the Austrian "economists" are also offenders.

They think going back to a "gold standard" would alleviate this problem, when in fact, "money-as-debt" was/is BORN FROM THE GOLD STANDARD.

Nobody wanted to carry around/stow a bunch of gold, which gave the bankers a viable business model.

Polar1ty » 15 May 2020, 1:19 pm » wrote: ↑

15 May 2020, 1:19 pm

I would argue, in addition to the "Republicrat sphincters" who are "monetary ignoramuses," the Austrian "economists" are also offenders.

They think going back to a "gold standard" would alleviate this problem, when in fact, "money-as-debt" was/is BORN FROM THE GOLD STANDARD.

Nobody wanted to carry around/stow a bunch of gold, which gave the bankers a viable business model.

...great point... i was banned from the ron paul forum for repeatedly pointing out to a few of the stoooooooooooopid **** republicans over there that there never has been any [honest] 'gold standard' to 'go back' to... that is, these banksters of yesteryear merely used gold as 'the reserves' in their iteration of this STINKING **** IMMORAL, INSANE "FRACTIONAL RESERVE DEPOSIT CREATION" scheme under which we are enslaved today...

..you see it... omh doesn't see it, dweebzer doesn't see it, duck **** doesn't see it, not one .orger tmk 'sees it'......you can always tell a monetary ignoramus by the way they focus on the puppet$...they are blind to the puppetmaster$...

...btw, you, especially, might enjoy that sound bar i posted at #745...older people, greens, i believe, nailing 'the money'...it starts out slow but it's worth the listen...btw, their organization, the 'Alliance For Just Money' is at the top of 'money groups' imo... they are the progeny of the late great steve zarlenga, the greatest monetary historian of the last 100 years, tmk...btw if you know of a better monetary historian/monetary realist please name...

SJConspirator » 03 Mar 2020, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Mar 2020, 7:58 pm

I thought you operated on faith, not science. Do you know the difference?

Science fiction vs spiritual fantasies both mentally distort what actual life does in natural reproductive displacements so far timed apart now. Ironic how during daylight the sun is the north star but at night navigation without a compass there are North Star and Southern Cross.

So is dawn and dusk left and right or is north pole and south pole left and right. Double entendre. Gee which is more confusing reproductions always timed apart now as ancestrally positioned to an ever changing population or nobody knows how life works in plain sight?

peepee » 16 May 2020, 8:00 am » wrote: ↑

16 May 2020, 8:00 am

...great point... i was banned from the ron paul forum for repeatedly pointing out to a few of the stoooooooooooopid **** republicans over there that there never has been any [honest] 'gold standard' to 'go back' to... that is, these banksters of yesteryear merely used gold as 'the reserves' in their iteration of this STINKING **** IMMORAL, INSANE "FRACTIONAL RESERVE DEPOSIT CREATION" scheme under which we are enslaved today...

..you see it... omh doesn't see it, dweebzer doesn't see it, duck **** doesn't see it, not one .orger tmk 'sees it'......you can always tell a monetary ignoramus by the way they focus on the puppet$...they are blind to the puppetmaster$...

...btw, you, especially, might enjoy that sound bar i posted at #745...older people, greens, i believe, nailing 'the money'...it starts out slow but it's worth the listen...btw, their organization, the 'Alliance For Just Money' is at the top of 'money groups' imo... they are the progeny of the late great steve zarlenga, the greatest monetary historian of the last 100 years, tmk...btw if you know of a better monetary historian/monetary realist please name...

Yes, I believe a greater % of "greens" (esp. old school) than "libertarians" understand the monetary system...

Unfortunately, the greens also have a long agenda of items I disagree with (Carbon tax, open borders, massively expanding the welfare state including UBI, the desire to completely eliminate fossil fuels, etc.) so you'll have to accept their flaws.

Polar1ty » 16 May 2020, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑

16 May 2020, 6:23 pm

Yes, I believe a greater % of "greens" (esp. old school) than "libertarians" understand the monetary system...

Unfortunately, the greens also have a long agenda of items I disagree with (Carbon tax, open borders, massively expanding the welfare state including UBI, the desire to completely eliminate fossil fuels, etc.) so you'll have to accept their flaws.

.....steve zarlenga called himself a socialist and his favorite politician was dennis kucinich.. [who, along with alan grayson and ron paul are the only politicians who 'see it', ime...all are ferocious advocates of complete transparency in thi$ hideou$ realm...that alone is enough to put a knife into it deeply..]

...there are so few people who 'see it' that talking percentages is purely anecdotal...i don't know any republicrats who 'see it'...believe it or not the guy that turned me on many moons ago called himself 'a libertarian' but he ran for the state legislature as a green...he didn't win but i believe he still holds some records for garnering ?19%...

peepee » 17 May 2020, 6:58 am » wrote: ↑

17 May 2020, 6:58 am

.....steve zarlenga called himself a socialist and his favorite politician was dennis kucinich.. [who, along with alan grayson and ron paul are the only politicians who 'see it', ime...all are ferocious advocates of complete transparency in thi$ hideou$ realm...that alone is enough to put a knife into it deeply..]

...there are so few people who 'see it' that talking percentages is purely anecdotal...i don't know any republicrats who 'see it'...believe it or not the guy that turned me on many moons ago called himself 'a libertarian' but he ran for the state legislature as a green...he didn't win but i believe he still holds some records for garnering ?19%...

IIRC there were quite a few Sanders' staffers who were also "monetary realists" and advocated "sovereign monetary policy."

Where I might have disagreed with them is on how much money should be "printed" by the government under this theoretical new framework.

I would like to see close to 0% inflation (actual inflation, not the **** figures put out by the BLS that claim 2% inflation when actual inflation is running at 4-5%), but Sanders' staffers are to the left of me and would probably embark on a huge spending spree with the digital printing presses.

It just goes to show that even if you take away the bankers' "unholy and demonic" powers, nirvana isn't waiting on the other side.


Edit: Ah yes, I remember Alan Grayson. He was a liberal firebrand but ultimately got nothing done. He also criticized Obamacare for being a "corporate insurance giveaway" (true) but then voted for it anyways.

Oh well, sounds like typical American politics.

peepee » 16 May 2020, 8:00 am » wrote: ↑

16 May 2020, 8:00 am

...great point... i was banned from the ron paul forum for repeatedly pointing out to a few of the stoooooooooooopid **** republicans over there that there never has been any [honest] 'gold standard' to 'go back' to... that is, these banksters of yesteryear merely used gold as 'the reserves' in their iteration of this STINKING **** IMMORAL, INSANE "FRACTIONAL RESERVE DEPOSIT CREATION" scheme under which we are enslaved today...

..you see it... omh doesn't see it, dweebzer doesn't see it, duck **** doesn't see it, not one .orger tmk 'sees it'......you can always tell a monetary ignoramus by the way they focus on the puppet$...they are blind to the puppetmaster$...

...btw, you, especially, might enjoy that sound bar i posted at #745...older people, greens, i believe, nailing 'the money'...it starts out slow but it's worth the listen...btw, their organization, the 'Alliance For Just Money' is at the top of 'money groups' imo... they are the progeny of the late great steve zarlenga, the greatest monetary historian of the last 100 years, tmk...btw if you know of a better monetary historian/monetary realist please name...

Here's an excellent takedown of "libertardian" ideas.

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/us-coronavi ... nt-3902246

Basically, libertardians think if the government gets out of the way, we will have a "free market economy." But in reality, we will have an economy (and government) run by the BANKERS.

My only wish is that you would call out (((the tribe))) more often, as they are the ones largely in control of the 'hideous monetary system' - with the aid of their goyim compatriots like Jerome Powell, another billionaire/globalist/banker asset..

Polar1ty » 18 May 2020, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

18 May 2020, 11:09 am

Here's an excellent takedown of "libertardian" ideas.

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/us-coronavi ... nt-3902246

Basically, libertardians think if the government gets out of the way, we will have a "free market economy." But in reality, we will have an economy (and government) run by the BANKERS.

My only wish is that you would call out (((the tribe))) more often, as they are the ones largely in control of the 'hideous monetary system' - with the aid of their goyim compatriots like Jerome Powell, another billionaire/globalist/banker asset..

...**** 'the tribe'...i like to call people out individually...name names... i would like to see an honest audit/listing of fed. shareholders which would allow me to name names but the **** republicrats won't demand one...[again, why waste a **** breath on 'the libertardians'!?...they are NOWHERE near power!...btw, powell is CERTAINLY no 'libertardian'...he's republicrat through and through..]

....does your distaste for 'libertardians' have anything to do with 'their' stance on corporate per$onhood? ...btw what does your party [if any] believe about the 'corporate personhood' which enable$ 'the tribe'?...seems to me the libertardians have it about right:...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/co ... corporate/

What's the Libertarian stance on 'Corporate Personhood'?

'The libertarian position is that corporate personhood shouldn't exist. If a person working for a corporation harms an individual the person working for the corporation should be held accountable. That person should not be able to hide behind a corporation.'

'People can pool together their capital to form a corporation. So a corporation is made up of people and their capital. But a corporation itself is an business entity and not a person. Corporate personhood and limited liability protections are an abomination from the libertarian position.

The idea that corporations are an entity different than the people constituents is a government fabrication. '

peepee » 19 May 2020, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

19 May 2020, 10:10 am

...**** 'the tribe'...i like to call people out individually...name names... i would like to see an honest audit/listing of fed. shareholders which would allow me to name names but the **** republicrats won't demand one...[again, why waste a **** breath on 'the libertardians'!?...they are NOWHERE near power!...btw, powell is CERTAINLY no 'libertardian'...he's republicrat through and through..]

....does your distaste for 'libertardians' have anything to do with 'their' stance on corporate per$onhood? ...btw what does your party [if any] believe about the 'corporate personhood' which enable$ 'the tribe'?...seems to me the libertardians have it about right:...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/co ... corporate/

What's the Libertarian stance on 'Corporate Personhood'?

'The libertarian position is that corporate personhood shouldn't exist. If a person working for a corporation harms an individual the person working for the corporation should be held accountable. That person should not be able to hide behind a corporation.'

'People can pool together their capital to form a corporation. So a corporation is made up of people and their capital. But a corporation itself is an business entity and not a person. Corporate personhood and limited liability protections are an abomination from the libertarian position.

The idea that corporations are an entity different than the people constituents is a government fabrication. '

I do not belong to a political party, and even if I did, I certainly would not register as a Demotard or Repuke.

Well that's one GOOD statement coming from libertarians. I could've sworn back in 2010 when Citizens United ruling unfolded, the """libertarians""" on the old liberalforum were jumping with joy and glee.

You'll have to pardon my distate for "libertardianz" when the bulk of them running around are spewing typical Repuke talking points on the nets...kind of like all the "independents" etc.

Polar1ty » 19 May 2020, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

19 May 2020, 11:11 am

I do not belong to a political party, and even if I did, I certainly would not register as a Demotard or Repuke.

Well that's one GOOD statement coming from libertarians. I could've sworn back in 2010 when Citizens United ruling unfolded, the """libertarians""" on the old liberalforum were jumping with joy and glee.

You'll have to pardon my distate for "libertardianz" when the bulk of them running around are spewing typical Repuke talking points on the nets...kind of like all the "independents" etc.

...i can certainly understand your distaste...the nets are chock-full of orange-mouthed republican-radio-level assholes who call themselves 'libertarian' ...[ime, most of them are merely goddamned fool republicans who smoke dope]

...btw, it is my understanding that the best 'libertarians' left 'the libertarian party' after the **** republicans took the party over in 2008 and nominated for president the republican asshole, bob barf...