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President Donald Trump may have broken federal law by altering a map from the National Hurricane Center to lend credence to his false claim over the weekend that Alabama was in the path of Hurricane Dorian.

The map showed a semicircle of black ink (made with a sharpie) that extended the farthest reaches of Dorian's impact cone beyond Florida and into Alabama.

The National Hurricane Center did not include Alabama in its forecast, and some observers pointed out on Wednesday that Trump's altered map may have violated the law.

"Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both," the relevant part of the US Code reads.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-m ... map-2019-9

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:12 pm » wrote:Trump may have broken federal law by altering Hurricane Dorian's path on a map.

Huey » 04 Sep 2019 4:15 pm » wrote:This is a joke, right?

Huey » 04 Sep 2019 4:15 pm » wrote:This is a joke, right?

PS. Remember the last time you guys ranted about the AL comment I told you the original tracks had it crossing FL and heading to the Gulf. In a northwest direction? Look at the map and see where AL is. Seems to me you just down your own argument.

Photos posted on the White House’s Flickr site reveal that Trump did receive the correct briefing on Aug. 29 from acting National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration head Neil Jacobs, in which the National Hurricane Center’s forecast called for Dorian to hit Florida.

Alabama was never included in any National Hurricane Center forecast cone for Dorian, though it was included for a time in a map on the probability of tropical storm conditions, but that showed a low likelihood of that outcome.
[.......]
The National Hurricane Center’s text bulletin at that time included Florida in its discussion five times, but it did not mention Alabama.

Instead, the center urged caution from residents in “the Bahamas, Florida, and elsewhere in the southeastern United States.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... tter-flub/

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:19 pm » wrote:

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:12 pm » wrote:Trump may have broken federal law by altering Hurricane Dorian's path on a map.

Gosh, somehow this doesn't seem quite as important as conspiring illegally with those nasty Russkis to steal the election.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:24 pm » wrote:And I see you ignored the fact that the NOAA map was altered, which is illegal.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:26 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:19 pm » wrote:Gosh, somehow this doesn't seem quite as important as conspiring illegally with those nasty Russkis to steal the election.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

You're right Precious.
His campaign colluding with all those Russians was much worse.

. As mentioned earlier, Steele maintained that a “former top Russian intelligence officer” was one of his principal sources
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine ... y-dossier/

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:29 pm » wrote:

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:26 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:19 pm » wrote:Gosh, somehow this doesn't seem quite as important as conspiring illegally with those nasty Russkis to steal the election.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.

You're right Precious.
His campaign colluding with all those Russians was much worse.

That's her lie, and she's sticking to it!
Except that it was Hillary who colluded with the Russians and the Ukranians.
Steele testified under oath that he got his information from Russian officials including a former high Russian Intelligence official.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:24 pm » wrote: Do you have a link to that map that shows it headed towards Alabama on Sept. 1st?
Are you disputing what the Birmingham National Weather Service said?
And I see you ignored the fact that the NOAA map was altered, which is illegal.

I know where Alabama is Huey.
Every forecast I saw had it on the East Coast, and Alabama is not on the East coast.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:24 pm » wrote: Do you have a link to that map that shows it headed towards Alabama on Sept. 1st?
Are you disputing what the Birmingham National Weather Service said?
And I see you ignored the fact that the NOAA map was altered, which is illegal.

I know where Alabama is Huey.
Every forecast I saw had it on the East Coast, and Alabama is not on the East coast.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:12 pm » wrote:




Just saw him on TV still sticking with his lie that Alabama was in the original forecast.
And the King of the black sharpie has no idea how that black mark got on the map.
The man is so incapable of ever admitting he was wrong about anything that it looks like he may have altered an official NOAA map, which is illegal.

The original Tweet:



The Birmingham National Weather Service correction:

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:38 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:29 pm » wrote:That's her lie, and she's sticking to it!

Except that it was Hillary who colluded with the Russians and the Ukranians.

Steele testified under oath that he got his information from Russian officials including a former high Russian Intelligence official.

Name one Russian that Hillary or anyone in her campaign met with.

Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals.

ut it was Hillary whose campaign met with not one Russian who colluded with Russians.

And as usual you are going completely off topic, then you whine when I use Peanut Gallery.

Start a thread about Trump and the two biggest sycophantic lickspittles on the forum rush in to defend him.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:38 pm » wrote:

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:29 pm » wrote:

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:26 pm » wrote: You're right Precious.
His campaign colluding with all those Russians was much worse.

That's her lie, and she's sticking to it!
Except that it was Hillary who colluded with the Russians and the Ukranians.
Steele testified under oath that he got his information from Russian officials including a former high Russian Intelligence official.

Name one Russian that Hillary or anyone in her campaign met with.

Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals.
But it was Hillary whose campaign met with not one Russian who colluded with Russians.

And as usual you are going completely off topic, then you whine when I use Peanut Gallery.

Start a thread about Trump and the two biggest sycophantic lickspittles on the forum rush in to defend him.

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Lucifershammer » 04 Sep 2019 4:45 pm » wrote:The original forecast had it hitting around palm beach crossing Florida and entering the gulf

Lucifershammer » 04 Sep 2019 4:43 pm » wrote:It wasn't altered you posted the original track put out by the National hurricane center. It's changed 6 times since then.

Misty » 04 Sep 2019 4:24 pm » wrote:

Huey » 04 Sep 2019 4:15 pm » wrote:This is a joke, right?

PS. Remember the last time you guys ranted about the AL comment I told you the original tracks had it crossing FL and heading to the Gulf. In a northwest direction? Look at the map and see where AL is. Seems to me you just down your own argument.

Do you have a link to that map that shows it headed towards Alabama on Sept. 1st?
Are you disputing what the Birmingham National Weather Service said?
And I see you ignored the fact that the NOAA map was altered, which is illegal.

Photos posted on the White House’s Flickr site reveal that Trump did receive the correct briefing on Aug. 29 from acting National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration head Neil Jacobs, in which the National Hurricane Center’s forecast called for Dorian to hit Florida.

Alabama was never included in any National Hurricane Center forecast cone for Dorian, though it was included for a time in a map on the probability of tropical storm conditions, but that showed a low likelihood of that outcome.
[.......]
The National Hurricane Center’s text bulletin at that time included Florida in its discussion five times, but it did not mention Alabama.

Instead, the center urged caution from residents in “the Bahamas, Florida, and elsewhere in the southeastern United States.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... tter-flub/

I know where Alabama is Huey.
Every forecast I saw had it on the East Coast, and Alabama is not on the East coast.

Termin8tor » 04 Sep 2019 4:53 pm » wrote:(a bunch of off topic garbage)

Huey » 04 Sep 2019 5:52 pm » wrote:I dunno what is worse. This or the golf shoes.
Well, I got better better things to think about than what snowflakes are whining about now. I am right on the edge of the latest hurricane warnings.