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FJB » 15 Jan 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2023, 10:28 am

Thata boy, show that strong TDS you have. Biden is the one on the hot seat now.... keep deflecting.

TDS=Trump Dementia Symptoms
 

You gotta admit, tRump using a sharpie to try to prove his point was some funny ****

FJB » 15 Jan 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2023, 10:28 am

IkeBana » 15 Jan 2023, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2023, 10:24 am

Says you.  Trump lied and still lies about everything.  He's a pathological liar...he lies when there's no reason to lie.  He lies when it's of no direct benefit to himself...why do pathological liars like Trump do that?  Because if their lies cause harm or distress to others, it brings a remarkable level of pleasure to a vile malignant narcissist like Donald Trump.  "I just grab 'em by the ******."

Go **** yourself and get back to me.

Thata boy, show that strong TDS you have. Biden is the one on the hot seat now.... keep deflecting.

Biden is not the one who delayed responding to the National Archives’ repeated requests for months, then failed to fully comply with a DOJ subpoena while falsely saying they he had.
That would be the Former Guy.
As soon as the documents were discovered Biden turned them over to the National Archives.
 

Mrkelly » 16 Jan 2023, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 9:38 am

You gotta admit, tRump using a sharpie to try to prove his point was some funny ****

It's because of his compulsive lying and the acceptance of that by the Republican Party that we now have people like George Santos (if that is indeed his real name) emboldened to run for office.
 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am

Biden is not the one who delayed responding to the National Archives’ repeated requests for months, then failed to fully comply with a DOJ subpoena while falsely saying they he had.
That would be the Former Guy.
As soon as the documents were discovered Biden turned them over to the National Archives.

As soon as the docs were discovered? You mean Biden didn't even know he had those docs.    LMAO


And yes they did delay. Their were fully aware of the docs just days before the midterm.


You really are uninformed Misty.   
 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am

Biden is not the one who delayed responding to the National Archives’ repeated requests for months, then failed to fully comply with a DOJ subpoena while falsely saying they he had.
That would be the Former Guy.
As soon as the documents were discovered Biden turned them over to the National Archives.

So??? He still broke the law... and tried covering it up. You treat trump one way and Biden the other? Not going to work.

roadkill » 16 Jan 2023, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:27 am

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am

Biden is not the one who delayed responding to the National Archives’ repeated requests for months, then failed to fully comply with a DOJ subpoena while falsely saying they he had.
That would be the Former Guy.
As soon as the documents were discovered Biden turned them over to the National Archives.

As soon as the docs were discovered? You mean Biden didn't even know he had those docs.    LMAO

And yes they did delay. Their were fully aware of the docs just days before the midterm.

You really are uninformed Misty.

I'm not saying that Biden handled this perfectly, but there are huge differences between the two cases.


 
 
 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden- ... 023-01-12/
 
 
 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:38 am

I'm not saying that Biden handled this perfectly, but there are huge differences between the two cases.


 
 
 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden- ... 023-01-12/

do his laweryers have security clearance?

FJB » 16 Jan 2023, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:36 am

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:23 am

Biden is not the one who delayed responding to the National Archives’ repeated requests for months, then failed to fully comply with a DOJ subpoena while falsely saying they he had.
That would be the Former Guy.
As soon as the documents were discovered Biden turned them over to the National Archives.

So??? He still broke the law... and tried covering it up. You treat trump one way and Biden the other? Not going to work.

What part of as soon as the documents were discovered he immediately turned them over to the National Archives do you not understand?

The National Archives was not even aware that the Biden documents were missing.
In the Former Guy's case they were aware and were seeking the documents.
And he refused to turn over all of the documents, and lied to the DOJ saying that he had, which is why the executed a search on Mar-a-lago.
Also, Biden has never claimed that he has a right to possess any classified documents, or that he has magically declassified them.

I know you desperately want these two cases to be the same, but they are very different especially in the way both parties handled the situation.
One is fully cooperating with the investigation while the other has done everything to he could to obstruct it.
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Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:38 am

I'm not saying that Biden handled this perfectly, but there are huge differences between the two cases.


 

 

Yes...the huge difference is Trump had the Presidential Records Act authority...Joe Biden did not.
 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:54 am

What part of as soon as the documents were discovered he immediately turned them over to the National Archives do you not understand?

The National Archives was not even aware that the Biden documents were missing.
In the Former Guy's case they were aware and were seeking the documents.
And he refused to turn over all of the documents, and lied to the DOJ saying that he had, which is why the executed a search on Mar-a-lago.
Also, Biden has never claimed that he has a right to possess any classified documents, or that he has magically declassified them.

I know you desperately want these two cases to be the same, but they are very different especially in the way both parties handled the situation.
One is fully cooperating with the investigation while the other has done everything to he could to obstruct it.
​​​​​

why did they withhold this information until after the election?
They are the same.
Biden is an embarrassment.

FJB » 16 Jan 2023, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:40 am

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:38 am

I'm not saying that Biden handled this perfectly, but there are huge differences between the two cases.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden- ... 023-01-12/

do his lawyers have security clearance?

No, they do not, which is why his lawyers stopped the search as soon as they discovered classified documents.

(WH lawyer ) Richard Sauber said in a statement Saturday that Biden’s personal lawyers, who did not have security clearances, stopped their search after finding the first page on Wednesday evening.

Sauber found the remaining material Thursday, as he was facilitating their retrieval by the Department of Justice.
 
“While I was transferring it to the DOJ officials who accompanied me, five additional pages with classification markings were discovered among the material with it, for a total of six pages,” Sauber said.

“The DOJ officials with me immediately took possession of them.”

https://apnews.com/article/biden-united ... 5205df3dc0

They handled it by the book, why is a very far cry from how The Former Guy handled it.

 
 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:03 pm

No, they do not, which is why his lawyers stopped the search as soon as they discovered classified documents.

They handled it by the book, why is a very far cry from how The Former Guy handled it.

yet his lawyers found more documents.

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:26 am

It's because of his compulsive lying and the acceptance of that by the Republican Party that we now have people like George Santos (if that is indeed his real name) emboldened to run for office.

agreed , and he helped bigots climb  out from under their rocks 

But because of our compulsive lying government that , with each sides acceptance , gave a POS carnival barker a lane to drive in

 
 

FJB » 16 Jan 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:58 am

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 11:54 am

What part of as soon as the documents were discovered he immediately turned them over to the National Archives do you not understand?

The National Archives was not even aware that the Biden documents were missing.
In the Former Guy's case they were aware and were seeking the documents.
And he refused to turn over all of the documents, and lied to the DOJ saying that he had, which is why the executed a search on Mar-a-lago.
Also, Biden has never claimed that he has a right to possess any classified documents, or that he has magically declassified them.

I know you desperately want these two cases to be the same, but they are very different especially in the way both parties handled the situation.
One is fully cooperating with the investigation while the other has done everything to he could to obstruct it.
​​​​​

why did they withhold this information until after the election?
They are the same.
Biden is an embarrassment.

Yeah, Biden is the embarrassment.
 

 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:07 pm

Yeah, Biden is the embarrassment.

He not Trump is in the White House right now  

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:03 pm

No, they do not, which is why his lawyers stopped the search as soon as they discovered classified documents.

They handled it by the book, why is a very far cry from how The Former Guy handled it.

Two separate issues.

The main concern was he mishandled classified docs.  Just like Trump.  Both broke the law.

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:07 pm

Yeah, Biden is the embarrassment.

 Democrats lash out over Biden classified document scandal: ‘An embarrassment’
https://nypost.com/2023/01/16/democrats ... rrassment/
 

FJB » 16 Jan 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:05 pm

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:03 pm

No, they do not, which is why his lawyers stopped the search as soon as they discovered classified documents.

They handled it by the book, why is a very far cry from how The Former Guy handled it.

yet his lawyers found more documents.

And they immediately turned them over to DOJ officials who were working with them to retrieve any more documents that might be found.
Had the Former Guy done what Biden did, he might have gotten away with it.
But he obstructed the National Archives and the DOJ every step of the way.
He felt he had a right to keep those documents.
Intent matters and obstruction definitely matters.
 

Misty » 16 Jan 2023, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 12:13 pm

And they immediately turned them over to DOJ officials who were working with them to retrieve any more documents that might be found.
Had the Former Guy done what Biden did, he might have gotten away with it.
But he obstructed the National Archives and the DOJ every step of the way.
He felt he had a right to keep those documents.
Intent matters and obstruction definitely matters.

why do you keep talking about Trump?
Biden is the one on the hot seat right now.
His own party members are saying he is an embarrassment.