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Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:13 pm

Right, I'm the narcissist that doesn't care whether people remembered that I lived or died.

Your judgment is - nonexistent.  Work on it.  You are thick as a brick.

You are all about control and power. It has nothing to do about when you are dead. You have no control or power then, so it's pointless, even if you were remembered. 

You need to control people. You need power over them. That's why the founding fathers would shoot you. 

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:20 pm

 

Alrighty then. Good talk.
 

Vegas » 27 Dec 2020, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:06 pm

Nope. I don't. I am very careful who I assign that label to. Penquin and BlackVeg are confirmed narcissists. I don't just throw that label around liberally. It's a real disorder.

I used to belong to a narcissist chat group. I joined because I didn't know what one was at the time. Nor did I know I was raised by one. But I always knew there was something wrong. I had two actually. the nasty father and his friend. One was borderline Psychopath. All the psycho had to do was feed the n ego. And the n just ate it up.  When I got there... it all became clear to me.  It actually it helped. Because once I knew.. that N's think they are smarter then everyone else.. it was easy to win. They f-d up at every turn, because they both thought they were so f-ing smart. Boy that was a fun chat group. The stories on that board. I know exactly what your talking about.   it REALLY is a disorder. bv maybe? penguin.. no. penguin is just odd and grouchy.

sootedupCyndi » 27 Dec 2020, 2:24 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:24 pm

I used to belong to a narcissist chat group. I joined because I didn't know what one was at the time. Nor did I know I was raised by one. But I always knew there was something wrong. I had two actually. the nasty father and his friend. One was borderline Psychopath. All the psycho had to do was feed the n ego. And the n just ate it up.  When I got there... it all became clear to me.  It actually it helped. Because once I knew.. that N's think they are smarter then everyone else.. it was easy to win. They f-d up at every turn, because they both thought they were so f-ing smart. Boy that was a fun chat group. The stories on that board. I know exactly what your talking about.   it REALLY is a disorder. bv maybe? penguin.. no. penguin is just odd and grouchy.

They are definitely evil. I was raised with three of them: My grandfather, uncle, and oldest brother. Absolute evil. I am glad that you turned out good. It's not easy. They definitely **** up at every turn. That's why I enjoy troll @Blackvegetable  so much. The guy can't stop **** up. @Pengwin   is a control freak. He needs power and control over others. He cannot get it over his own life, so he tries to control others instead. Classic NPD.

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:31 pm

Making you obey the speed limit while driving to the sex or the pot shop is not - control, it's Liberty*

Try again.

* some limitations may apply.  See details...

Stupid analogy. Can't you come up with something relevant? 

Taking away people's natural right to defend themselves against tyrants like you, or get burned alive, is all 100% control and power over the mass. That's it. Nothing less. That is not liberty. 

Like I said, you don't know the meaning of the word. 

Vegas » 27 Dec 2020, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:28 pm

They are definitely evil. I was raised with three of them: My grandfather, uncle, and oldest brother. Absolute evil. I am glad that you turned out good. It's not easy. They definitely **** up at every turn. That's why I enjoy troll @Blackvegetable  so much. The guy can't stop **** up. @Pengwin   is a control freak. He needs power and control over others. He cannot get it over his own life, so he tries to control others instead. Classic NPD.

It did F me up. All my life I was told I was this or that. Everything he WAS. It sort of left me with the inability to make a decision? I tell you it made no coward outta me.  I mean this guy was a classic hoarder. Who told me I didn't pick up my things. I keep a normal house. When he died he left me with such an evil mess.. you wouldn't believe it. pure evil. I would not want to be in a relationship with one! if you kiss their ***.. They just luv you. HUGE egos.  see I would never do that.

sootedupCyndi » 27 Dec 2020, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:34 pm

It did F me up. All my life I was told I was this or that. Everything he WAS. It sort of left me with the inability to make a decision? I tell you it made no coward outta me.  I mean this guy was a classic hoarder. Who told me I didn't pick up my things. I keep a normal house. When he died he left me with such an evil mess.. you wouldn't believe it. pure evil. I would not want to be in a relationship with one! if you kiss their ***.. They just luv you. HUGE egos.  see I would never do that.

This is why  @Blackvegetable  daughter hates him. He **** her up. I feel bad for her. I really do. No child should have to endure a narcissistic parent. You know what that retard said? He said he is a great father because he is paying her way through school and giving her a free place to live. I **** you not. He is that clueless about being a father. ****, I had a girlfriend whose parents were dirt poor. The father was a cashier at 7/11, the mom worked as a CNA in a nursing home. They couldn't afford anything. Yet, they were the most loving parents I knew. She adored them, and they adored her. Veghead's first and only response was that he has resources that he provides. Stupid mother ****. He still doesn't get why his response was self-centered. 

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:36 pm

The crazy we are stuck with, the guns are optional, and the Liberal Elites set the rules here.  We founded the place.

Self defense is liberty, I don't care if you don't like it. The data about gun violence is not on your side.



You are not an elite. You didn't set rules anywhere. How do you not see how self-centered this comment is? How? You saying that you are an elite, does not make you an elite. We went over this. 



@sooted up Cyndi  Do you see the narcissism here?

Vegas » 27 Dec 2020, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:42 pm

Self defense is liberty, I don't care if you don't like it. The data about gun violence is not on your side.

You are not an elite. You didn't set rules anywhere. How do you not see how self-centered this comment is? How? You saying that you are an elite, does not make you an elite. We went over this. 

@sooted up Cyndi  Do you see the narcissism here?

Nope this is getting by me.? I'll have to think about it a bit and analyze his personality.

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:43 pm

See, that's progress.  

Again, another narcissistic comment that you are completely clueless that you made. You are assuming I am making progress on your standards. Your standards...ok? Do you get it yet? You are holding your standards to me, then judging whether or not I am making progress. You have no recognized authority to do so. How do you not see this?

sootedupCyndi » 27 Dec 2020, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:46 pm

Nope this is getting by me.? I'll have to think about it a bit and analyze his personality.

Recap:

• He claims that he is a liberal elite tantamount to that of the founders. That's a delusion of grandeur. 
• He claims that "we set the rules." That's a superiority complex.
• He puts his standards against everyone else, then decides who is making progress and who isn't.
• When he talks about taking our guns away, he uses the "we", not "they." In his mind, he is part of the recognized authority to take our guns, not just the government. More superiority complex and delusion of grandeur.
• He advocates burning families that don't comply. Sociopath

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:50 pm

And, you are, a little bit.  You are still as sharp a marble but we'll see, miracles happen.

And another narcissistic comment. You are on a roll today. 

The founders would shoot you first. LOL!

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:49 pm

He thinks Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Washington are - Narcissists (because they created the laws we all live by).

What a nutbag...

well? I don't know if that's so funny. N's make good leaders? I don't mean good. Good is relative?  I mean they try.  like Trump. He's one. Clinton is one. Obama is one. Some of them are so self centered. They want to go down in history as being the greatest? The founding fathers   might have been. I have to think that over too.

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:48 pm

No, it isn't actually, but it's a de facto "right" accepted by nearly everyone who isn't a pacifist like Jesus.  I accept it as well but in a decent society you wouldn't need to defend yourself or anyone else.

The Liberty part is being able to go to a concert without being slaughtered by some nut with a gun, or 20.  And the data is ~30,000 die here each year from a gun.  That's what needs to be stopped.

The crazy we are stuck with, the guns are optional, and the Elites set the rules you play by.  Get over it.

Yes. It is. Jesus or not, we all have a right to defend ourselves. Nobody cares that you don't like it. Get over it.

I already gave you the data, it destroyed you. I am not going to repost it all. I'll just give you a nice little recap:

• 60% are suicides.
• The majority of the other 40% are inner city gang related. So take their guns since they were stolen anyway.
• Literally hundreds of millions of guns and gun owners...yet, the majority of the violence comes from inner city gangs where the guns were stolen because the laws are laready in place to keep them from owning guns.

You don't make any rules. Get over yourself.

Vegas » 27 Dec 2020, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:51 pm

Recap:

• He claims that he is a liberal elite tantamount to that of the founders. That's a delusion of grandeur. 
• He claims that "we set the rules." That's a superiority complex.
• He puts his standards against everyone else, then decides who is making progress and who isn't.
• When he talks about taking our guns away, he uses the "we", not "they." In his mind, he is part of the recognized authority to take our guns, not just the government. More superiority complex and delusion of grandeur.
• He advocates burning families that don't comply. Sociopath

I need time to think about him.  

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:55 pm

You usually don't shoot your own kind.  You go and get plastered in the local tavern.  They sure did.


 

That's the point. They wouldn't consider you their kind. They would consider you a tyrant, therefore they would shoot you. 

How many times do we have to go through this?

sootedupCyndi » 27 Dec 2020, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:56 pm

I need time to think about him.

He is an embarrassment to the human race. 
 

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:36 pm

Gun control is about the liberty of everyone.  It's not about self-defense.  You can have nonlethal weapons for that.

The crazy we are stuck with, the guns are optional, and the Liberal Elites set the rules here.  We founded the place.

You lost claim to that noble lineage when you decided government was the source of individual liberties rather than an impedance to them.
 

Vegas » 27 Dec 2020, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:39 pm

This is why  @Blackvegetable  daughter hates him. He **** her up. I feel bad for her. I really do. No child should have to endure a narcissistic parent. You know what that retard said? He said he is a great father because he is paying her way through school and giving her a free place to live. I **** you not. He is that clueless about being a father. ****, I had a girlfriend whose parents were dirt poor. The father was a cashier at 7/11, the mom worked as a CNA in a nursing home. They couldn't afford anything. Yet, they were the most loving parents I knew. She adored them, and they adored her. Veghead's first and only response was that he has resources that he provides. Stupid mother ****. He still doesn't get why his response was self-centered.

You know what that retard said?

Does it matter, in the context of a Narrative?

He said he is a great father because he is paying her way through school and giving her a free place to live.

No....I don't think so...
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​​​​​​you idiotically proposed that as a narcissist, I demanded that my daughter stay close to home for college..
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I corrected you. A tedious but necessary excercise...

I **** you not.

How we can be certain you are...

Pengwin » 27 Dec 2020, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Dec 2020, 2:59 pm

I have few, if any, issues with self-defense (just what you use to did it with).

And Gun Control is about all "gun deaths", no matter how, where, or why.

You can make an argument for a gun suicide being a form of "liberty", but it's not a very good one.

As for the law-abiding gun-owners obeying the law, so did the Vegas right up until he slaughter 60 people for no reason hence, the problem with guns - not enough control...

You don't know the meaning of the word liberty. I defend life, you advocate killing it. When meth-heads attack, they aren't in their right mind to just hurt you. Unless you have been in a scenario where your life is being threatened, you really can't say anything. It's real easy for you to sit on the sidelines and just say "well, use non-lethal means to defend yourself." Yeah, I am sure that will work well for a 105 pound mother against some good sized men. 

There you go. Just as I predicted. You default right to the 0.0002% of the cases. Not even close to being the mainstream gun violence. You guys do this with the abortion argument also. Instead of talking about the 99% of abortions, you default to the "raped" ones who make up 0.002% of the cases. You should be ashamed of yourself.