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Huey » 19 Jan 2017 10:01 am » wrote: You got that law for us? The one that mandates you HAVE to invest in corporations and how does that affect your argument on CU?

Huey » 18 Jan 2017 6:41 pm » wrote: Never said they were.

Huey » 10 May 2014 9:04 am » wrote: Citizens United, and the concept of unions, organizations, and yes, corporations which are all discussed in citizens united says that a group of people do not lose their rights because they are part of an organization. GE is not a person. A Union is not a person. But those that comprimise the group are. And they do not lose their rights because they formed a group.

Huey » 20 May 2014 4:40 am » wrote: The people that comprise Corporations, Unions, and other associations are free to excercise their freedom to assemble and collectively voice their first amendment rights. If you have a problem with that take it with the USSC.

Huey » 20 May 2014 1:31 pm » wrote: I support the rights of people who comprise unions, associations, and corporations to freely associate and practice their first amendment rights. So does the USSC as I posted earlier. If you do not support these constitutionally protected rights just say so.

Remember Ozzie, the UAW or GE does not have first amendment rights. But the people who comprise and run those entities do. Why do you wish to suppress their rights?

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 10:09 am » wrote:Look, ***, once you've been caught in a bald-faced lie, the jig is up. Arguing with you further, after backing you into a corner and beating a lie out of you, is simply not necessary. You lost. Lay down, or keep bawling, bitch.
And here's the lying ***, saying they are:
When I make ya lie, little bitch, I own ya. The rest of your posts on the topic are a desperate attempt to paint over getting caught.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 10:09 am » wrote:Look, ***, once you've been caught in a bald-faced lie, the jig is up. Arguing with you further, after backing you into a corner and beating a lie out of you, is simply not necessary. You lost. Lay down, or keep bawling, bitch.
And here's the lying ***, saying they are:
When I make ya lie, little bitch, I own ya. The rest of your posts on the topic are a desperate attempt to paint over getting caught.

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 7:24 am » wrote: Easy answer. No one is forcing you to buy stock in GE. If you do not like what GE does with it's money. Unlike a Union where in some states you are forced to pay dues and do not like what they do with their money.

So you want big daddy government to come in and regulate that.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 10:12 am » wrote: THIS is where cannon lost his mind.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 6:44 am » wrote:
I am not going to disagree with you. But when I purchase ANYTHING I still have the choice of where to purchase, where to live, where to shop. If I do not like WalMart I can go to Target, or Kroger, or Food Lion. My wife can shop at Kohls, Macy's, or where ever. I can buy my fuel at any number of places. I have 50 states I can choose to live in.

Now, not all the choices are good, but they are choices. And these choices are not dictated by the federal government.

Except for healthcare.

Thanks for the greenie.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 10:20 am » wrote:Keep weaseling, bitch - it'll make your lie disappear.

But don't worry - every time you spam enough whining to turn the page, I'll refresh your lie.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 10:45 am » wrote: lol! Showing the actual point of contention kills your new tactic.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 11:11 am » wrote:Being an exposed liar who keeps shifting the various points of contention through lies is your gay karma. The actual point of contention - which I made you lie about on record - was your pretense that corporations are merely representing their members, and therefor exercising their constituents' rights, when they campaign.

I blew that out of the water, and you screeched, "NO ONE MAKES YOU INVEST!"

You now wish to suck me off with that being the point of contention - the contention ENDED when I recorded your bald faced lie, loser.

Pwned.

Cannonpointer » 17 Jan 2017 7:02 am » wrote:I see the *** dancer is still relying on weird mouthfuls of qualifiers to sell her gay talking points - still pretending that when I buy stock in GE, the lobbyists working for GE magically intuit my political leanings and unerringly represent me with lobbying dollars.

Yeah - I'm just "freely associating by forming a union or corporation and spending my money as I see fit."

Do you ever get off the dick, Nance?

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 7:24 am » wrote: Easy answer. No one is forcing you to buy stock in GE. If you do not like what GE does with it's money. Unlike a Union where in some states you are forced to pay dues and do not like what they do with their money.

So you want big daddy government to come in and regulate that.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 11:20 am » wrote: My contention.

Huey » 18 Jan 2017 6:41 pm » wrote:' Never said they were.

Huey » 10 May 2014 9:04 am » wrote: Citizens United, and the concept of unions, organizations, and yes, corporations which are all discussed in citizens united says that a group of people do not lose their rights because they are part of an organization. GE is not a person. A Union is not a person. But those that comprimise the group are. And they do not lose their rights because they formed a group.

Huey » 20 May 2014 4:40 am » wrote: The people that comprise Corporations, Unions, and other associations are free to excercise their freedom to assemble and collectively voice their first amendment rights. If you have a problem with that take it with the USSC.

Huey » 20 May 2014 1:31 pm » wrote: I support the rights of people who comprise unions, associations, and corporations to freely associate and practice their first amendment rights. So does the USSC as I posted earlier. If you do not support these constitutionally protected rights just say so.
Remember Ozzie, the UAW or GE does not have first amendment rights. But the people who comprise and run those entities do. Why do you wish to suppress their rights?

Cannonpointer » 02 May 2014 10:35 pm » wrote:Instead of definitions, let's talk functions.

Look at the materials required to construct a solar panel.They cost about $200.00. Add a day's labor to that $200.00, and you've got yourself a solar panel. You could sell iffor $400.00, and you've got yourself a job. So, why isn't anyone doing it?We live in a free enterprise economy, do we not?

Not.

We live in a capitalist economy, which games the system to PREVENT free enterprise. You are not allowed to sell your solar panels without a stamp of approval from Underwriters Laboratories -and they are gate keepers for Wall Street.The cost of shaking hands with UL prevents free enterprisers from operating in that market -and the same thing is going on in almost every market. The little guy is locked out by the engineered and manipulated expense of sitting at the table - locked out. Only Wall Streeters, using OTHER PEOPLES' capital, can afford to play in the game.

We need to go back to a free enterprise economy, where the little guy does not face unsurmountable obstacles to starting a small business.

Sgt Bilko » 19 Jan 2017 11:38 am » wrote: You ignore all the overhead in companies. A garage shop might be able to get close to that but not anything bigger. Here is the way it works.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 11:24 am » wrote:You waived contention when caught in your lie, child - I'm chasing your dishonest *** down no more rabbit holes.

You've demonstrated that when cornered you will lie. Why should I corner you again, weasel? You are fodder for varmint dogs - I hunt big game.

Go play, liar panty - I have no time for bald faced liars, cretin.

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 7:24 am » wrote: Easy answer. No one is forcing you to buy stock in GE. If you do not like what GE does with it's money. Unlike a Union where in some states you are forced to pay dues and do not like what they do with their money.

So you want big daddy government to come in and regulate that.

Cannonpointer » 18 Jan 2017 1:59 pm » wrote:And in NEITHER case is GE functioning as my political voice, you **** idiot.

That's where this all went south - your pretense that I am somehow ceding to GE, by investing in an index fund which purchases GE stock, my political agency. Stop being a lying queer with a whole paragraph of gobbledygook to justify a lie, you flaming homo.

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 7:24 am » wrote: Easy answer. No one is forcing you to buy stock in GE. If you do not like what GE does with it's money. Unlike a Union where in some states you are forced to pay dues and do not like what they do with their money.

So you want big daddy government to come in and regulate that.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 12:03 pm » wrote: I never said GE was functioning as your political voice, you **** idiot.

Huey » 10 May 2014 9:04 am » wrote: Citizens United, and the concept of unions, organizations, and yes, corporations which are all discussed in citizens united says that a group of people do not lose their rights because they are part of an organization. GE is not a person. A Union is not a person. But those that comprimise the group are. And they do not lose their rights because they formed a group.

Huey » 20 May 2014 4:40 am » wrote: The people that comprise Corporations, Unions, and other associations are free to excercise their freedom to assemble and collectively voice their first amendment rights. If you have a problem with that take it with the USSC.

Huey » 20 May 2014 1:31 pm » wrote: I support the rights of people who comprise unions, associations, and corporations to freely associate and practice their first amendment rights. So does the USSC as I posted earlier. If you do not support these constitutionally protected rights just say so.
Remember Ozzie, the UAW or GE does not have first amendment rights. But the people who comprise and run those entities do. Why do you wish to suppress their rights?

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 12:07 pm » wrote: Let's review:
Keep lying,bitch. Stomp your feet harder.

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 7:24 am » wrote: Easy answer. No one is forcing you to buy stock in GE. If you do not like what GE does with it's money. Unlike a Union where in some states you are forced to pay dues and do not like what they do with their money.

So you want big daddy government to come in and regulate that.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 12:09 pm » wrote: Again, if you do not like what they support you don't have to spend your money.

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 6:57 am » wrote:Do you really want to defend your position that people who form unions and corporations do not have the right to freely associate and spend their money as they see fit?

Huey » 18 Jan 2017 6:41 pm » wrote:
Never said they were.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 12:18 pm » wrote:Again, rights are created by God Almighty, for His creatures, under American law.

Artificial creatures have no rights - my contention.

Those creatures are merely expressing their MEMBERS' rights - your contention, repeated over and over, in baroque and lawyerly ***-language. **** like this, and several other lawyerly permutations:
Then I cornered you, then you lied.
Now I won't corner you again, because you'll only lie again.

Chasing you down no more rabbit holes, ya lying ****.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 12:32 pm » wrote: You didn't corner me. Nor did I lie. You still have not shown where I am mandated to invest in a company.

Huey » 10 May 2014 9:04 am » wrote: Citizens United, and the concept of unions, organizations, and yes, corporations which are all discussed in citizens united says that a group of people do not lose their rights because they are part of an organization. GE is not a person. A Union is not a person. But those that comprimise the group are. And they do not lose their rights because they formed a group.

Huey » 20 May 2014 4:40 am » wrote: The people that comprise Corporations, Unions, and other associations are free to excercise their freedom to assemble and collectively voice their first amendment rights. If you have a problem with that take it with the USSC.

Huey » 20 May 2014 1:31 pm » wrote: I support the rights of people who comprise unions, associations, and corporations to freely associate and practice their first amendment rights. So does the USSC as I posted earlier. If you do not support these constitutionally protected rights just say so.
Remember Ozzie, the UAW or GE does not have first amendment rights. But the people who comprise and run those entities do. Why do you wish to suppress their rights?