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Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 12:38 pm » wrote:Your original contention was that companies are exercising the rights of their owners. I disproved it, and you ran to, "Well you don't have to invest if you don't agree" - as if I could know BEFOREHAND what positions they might take.

Then you lied that you never even SAID they represented the individual owners - which is a flop that leaves you WITHOUT a premise, as we are right back to corporations have no God-given rights under American law - and ALL rights under American law are from the Creator.

Keep running in circles, barky dog - not chasing you around because you lie when cornered.

Here's you, claiming corporations are exercising their OWNERS' rights, not corporate rights, liar boy.

Huey » 17 Jan 2017 7:24 am » wrote: Easy answer. No one is forcing you to buy stock in GE. If you do not like what GE does with it's money. Unlike a Union where in some states you are forced to pay dues and do not like what they do with their money.

So you want big daddy government to come in and regulate that.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 12:42 pm » wrote: My original contention

Huey » 10 May 2014 9:04 am » wrote: Citizens United, and the concept of unions, organizations, and yes, corporations which are all discussed in citizens united says that a group of people do not lose their rights because they are part of an organization. GE is not a person. A Union is not a person. But those that comprimise the group are. And they do not lose their rights because they formed a group.

Huey » 20 May 2014 4:40 am » wrote: The people that comprise Corporations, Unions, and other associations are free to excercise their freedom to assemble and collectively voice their first amendment rights. If you have a problem with that take it with the USSC.

Huey » 20 May 2014 1:31 pm » wrote: I support the rights of people who comprise unions, associations, and corporations to freely associate and practice their first amendment rights. So does the USSC as I posted earlier. If you do not support these constitutionally protected rights just say so.
Remember Ozzie, the UAW or GE does not have first amendment rights. But the people who comprise and run those entities do. Why do you wish to suppress their rights?

Huey » 18 Jan 2017 6:41 pm » wrote: Never said they were.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:11 pm » wrote:Your original contention?

Let me help you with that, bitch.
Then you lied:
It was when you lied that anything else you wanna run became unworthy of entertaining.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:23 pm » wrote: There ya go parsing and editing again. No where does that say they are your political voice. Kinda left that part out, asshole.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:23 pm » wrote: Notice I deal in entire comments. I don't cherry pick as this prick does.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:40 pm » wrote:There ya go, kid. Start reframing what you got caught lying you never said. If you can't deny saying it, maybe you can change its meaning, ya pathetic loser.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:40 pm » wrote:There ya go, kid. Start reframing what you got caught lying you never said. If you can't deny saying it, maybe you can change its meaning, ya pathetic loser.
By the way, cockroach - those quotes were you ENTIRE comment. Now, tell another lie, boy.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:43 pm » wrote:
What exactly are you claiming I claimed I never said three years after I allegedly said it? LOL!

Your NEW claim is I am claiming they are your political voice. Never implied, never said it, never claimed it.

Plus, all of this is a diversion from you having to prove that the government is mandating thru law that you have to invest.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:40 pm » wrote:There ya go, kid. Start reframing what you got caught lying you never said. If you can't deny saying it, maybe you can change its meaning, ya pathetic loser.
By the way, cockroach - those quotes were you ENTIRE comment. Now, tell another lie, boy.

Cannonpointer » 18 Jan 2017 9:06 pm » wrote:When you have to lie like a bitch about what you said in this very thread (snapbacks intact), you're just proving what I've said about your lack of character, sonny/

Here's you pretending - over and over and over - that corporations spening money on politics are merely the individuals who own the corporation, exercising their rights:
When I make ya lie, little bitch, I own ya.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:46 pm » wrote:Lie to yourself, kid. I've reprinted you prattlng precisely what you are now swearing you didn't say, and lying about the time frame. This board has not been UP three years, jagov - and anything you say which you then lie about is current, *** wipe.

If you want to say it no longer counts, then you have to admit you said it, and say you've changed your mind - not deny you said it, you ignorant, wheedling cocksucker.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:47 pm » wrote: Where does it say they are your political voice:

Huey » 10 May 2014 9:04 am » wrote: I agree with.
I disagree with you in general. As far as media ownership, although the 1996 Telecommunications Act signed by Clinton severly relaxed media ownership rules it is still not a free for all. I used to work in the industry and am familiar with them. Here is a website that will explain the existing rules:

http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?b=2030875&c=dkLNK1MQIwG

Your second idea is an example of an overreaching fed gov. Telling people what stocks they can own, what boards they can serve on is border line fascism. I agree. Compaines, corporations, wall street, should sink or swim on their own.
I agree to returning to state appointed senators with term limits. Quite a few states are working on creating a constitutional conventional with that as one of the topics. Add term limits to both the house and the senate.
I agree.
Disagree. Citizens United, and the concept of unions, organizations, and yes, corporations which are all discussed in citizens united says that a group of people do not lose their rights because they are part of an organization. GE is not a person. A Union is not a person. But those that comprimise the group are. And they do not lose their rights because they formed a group.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:47 pm » wrote:
wHERE DOES IT SAY THEY ARE YOUR POLITICAL VOICE, POPS?

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:49 pm » wrote:The red, bold part, queer.

Keep lying, nancy - you're a pathetic hack.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:43 pm » wrote: Plus, all of this is a diversion from you having to prove that the government is mandating thru law that you have to invest.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:53 pm » wrote:No, queer, that is an onus you dishonestly tried to put on me in order to scoot out from under your own words from 17 years ago.

I already showed they passed laws which COERCE folks into doing it, and then you wheedled, "But NOT MANDATE!!! NOT MANDATE!!! THEY DON;T MANDATE!!! YOU STILL HAVE A CHOICE!!! - as if CU is a mandate to invest on wall street.

CU gives corporations the same rights as people, and corporations are not people, my friend - corporations are not people.

Under American law, only PEOPLE can legitimately be vested with rights, and vesting corporations with rights perforce weakens the rights of PEOPLE.

I say power to the people, right on - and you defend power to the corporations, wrong on.

Then you lie, because you have no class, no dignity, no shame.

Cry to someone else, liar. No one MANDATES that you lie, ya ***.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:50 pm » wrote:
I just posted the entire quote from 2014.

NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THEY ARE ACTING AS YOUR POLITICAL VOICE.

You are losing it pops. Can't wait to see your next reframe.

Ps. WHere is that law that forces you to invest?

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:57 pm » wrote:Whichever post you cherry picked is irrelevant, *** - I'm not relitigating with a lying sack of ****. You claimed you never pretended that corporations were merely voicing their various owners' concerns, and expressing their OWNERS' civil rights. I proved that was not possible, and in response you denied you ever said it.

I posted direct quotes of you saying it, snapbacks intact. You're a busted out liar, clinging to my nutsac and demanding I pretend you didn't lie.

The cure is stop lying, not demand special treatment for your lies, you waling sense of entitlement.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:57 pm » wrote: If you dumb enough to invest your money with a group of people you disagree with that is your problem. No one forced you.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2017 1:59 pm » wrote:Show us the law mandating GE tell me what political positions and groups it will fund in the next ten years before I invest money with them.

Where is the mandate? Show us that law?

Listen, insect, you've been stone cold busted - you should stop prattling.

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 2:52 pm » wrote:


Wiggle like a worm, pops.

So you need a law like that, huh?

Huey » 19 Jan 2017 1:58 pm » wrote: No, you cherry picked comments from a three year old discussion to run away from your errors. I posted entire comments.