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Capitlism vs. Free Enterprise
By Cannonpointer
2 May 2014 10:35 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
17 Jul 2022 5:36 pm
no country has all of the means of production owned by the state (not even the USSR was like that) and ALL countries have SOME.Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2022, 5:23 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't know - you would have to define socialism.
If you define it as the state owning all or some of the means of production, then Singapore and Norway are socialist. You can look to those economies for the answer.
and I dunno about Singapore...but i think that in Norway politicians are probably at the mercy of the press and money from NGOs and pressure groups...which is a condition that results in the ascendancy of the merchant.
Liberalism is itself a form of government that expands merchant power as much as possible. Money rules any liberal government.
17 Jul 2022 5:38 pm
Cannonpointer » 02 May 2014, 10:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Instead of definitions, let's talk functions.
Look at the materials required to construct a solar panel.They cost about $200.00. Add a day's labor to that $200.00, and you've got yourself a solar panel. You could sell iffor $400.00, and you've got yourself a job. So, why isn't anyone doing it?We live in a free enterprise economy, do we not?
Not.
We live in a capitalist economy, which games the system to PREVENT free enterprise. You are not allowed to sell your solar panels without a stamp of approval from Underwriters Laboratories -and they are gate keepers for Wall Street.The cost of shaking hands with UL prevents free enterprisers from operating in that market -and the same thing is going on in almost every market. The little guy is locked out by the engineered and manipulated expense of sitting at the table - locked out. Only Wall Streeters, using OTHER PEOPLES' capital, can afford to play in the game.
We need to go back to a free enterprise economy, where the little guy does not face unsurmountable obstacles to starting a small business.
Solar Panels cost about $1 per watt, and they last at least 20 years.
17 Jul 2022 5:40 pm
There is an EXTRA Tariff on Chinese Solar Panels that Biden has not Removed, he wants USA Companies to make Solar Panels.
17 Jul 2022 6:18 pm
Huey » 09 May 2014, 6:09 am » wrote: ↑ YAWN! Blame Reagan blah blah blah. Blame Wall Street BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Entrepenership is not dwindling because of regulation written by wall street. Expansion is non existent not because of the same. 93 million people are not out of work because of the ghost regulation you allude to. It is because of regulation pushed, talked about and signed into law over the last decade. It is because of the cost these regulations impose on people.
I asked one person who post the same propaganda you do to go start a business. Tell us your five year plan. Just how much, factoring in the ACA, EPA regs, possible union costs, what your overhead to run that business will be each year. At this point you can't do it.
Off shoring american jobs? ****, why start a business here taking into account the factors above when it is so much cheaper elsewhere? The current policies of higher taxes and other regulations is counter intuitive and stupid. It is as if your compadres WANT the system to fail. You a fan of the cloward and pivens strategy?
That is what is stifling jobs in America. That is why we have non existent GDP growth. Get government out of the way and keep the socialist policies, and your semi socialist policies, out of the way.
In the US today, small business is being strangled. Not by big government, but by multinationals. Multinational corporations absolutely steamroll small business in ways that even the old soviets could not. Consider the cumulative effects of the following advantages multinationals have
1. Lobbying firms to bribe politicians
2. Bulk volume buying
3. Regulations that hurt small businesses but give advantage to dominant monopolies (see 1)
4. Advertising (control of media)
small business cannot hope to compete, which is why buyouts and mergers devour them if they somehow even begin to turn a profit
17 Jul 2022 6:46 pm
SJConspirator » 17 Jul 2022, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑ In the US today, small business is being strangled. Not by big government, but by multinationals. Multinational corporations absolutely steamroll small business in ways that even the old soviets could not. Consider the cumulative effects of the following advantages multinationals have
1. Lobbying firms to bribe politicians
2. Bulk volume buying
3. Regulations that hurt small businesses but give advantage to dominant monopolies (see 1)
4. Advertising (control of media)
small business cannot hope to compete, which is why buyouts and mergers devour them if they somehow even begin to turn a profit
OH, WAH, Big Business is against me, WAH, Help me Government.
17 Jul 2022 6:56 pm
capitalism is free enterprise. Capitalizing off power of suggestion directing outcomes forward is absolute corruption in the social persuasion of mob rule semantics, "we will destroy anyone not complying to rule of law.". 1%ers own every reality built upon reasonable doubt eternity is anywhere else but here now.Cannonpointer » 02 May 2014, 10:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Instead of definitions, let's talk functions.
Look at the materials required to construct a solar panel.They cost about $200.00. Add a day's labor to that $200.00, and you've got yourself a solar panel. You could sell iffor $400.00, and you've got yourself a job. So, why isn't anyone doing it?We live in a free enterprise economy, do we not?
Not.
We live in a capitalist economy, which games the system to PREVENT free enterprise. You are not allowed to sell your solar panels without a stamp of approval from Underwriters Laboratories -and they are gate keepers for Wall Street.The cost of shaking hands with UL prevents free enterprisers from operating in that market -and the same thing is going on in almost every market. The little guy is locked out by the engineered and manipulated expense of sitting at the table - locked out. Only Wall Streeters, using OTHER PEOPLES' capital, can afford to play in the game.
We need to go back to a free enterprise economy, where the little guy does not face unsurmountable obstacles to starting a small business.
think this is a deception, recap last 60 years. Go back 600. hell go back 6,000 years. Go back 101 generations with a 20 year cycle between born a great great grandchild replacing last 30 people making up your unique DNA and 2022 years ago last honest sole was nailed to a cross convicted of blasphemy by his own people executed by their opposition with permission for the greater good of humanity then. Humanity is the devil's advocate of organized ancestral doubt this moment has always been eternity.
Sacrifice your biological time to pay to play a role in their better tomorrows concepts. "Give unto Caesar, what is Caesar's.". Leaders of reality have fellowships of reality and both ignore actual life in plain sight kinetics to evolving here equally created as one of the population left here now.
17 Jul 2022 7:14 pm
You usually spew a good bit of nonsense - but you have surpassed yourself.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:15 pm
FOS » 17 Jul 2022, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑ I would define socialism as simply a political environment where the statesman has greater power than the merchant
A salubrious happenstance - anathema to plunderers and jizz-mouthed retardocons.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:20 pm
Both singapore and norway have a sovereign wealth fund whose managers are market players. A mixed economy, to be sure - but the state's influence and effect on the market is an order of magnitude greater than that of other mixed economies due to the market position of the respective countries. Last I checked, singapore's sovereign wealth fund was, all by itself, a quarter of singapore's market. That's the 800 pound gorilla in the roomFOS » 17 Jul 2022, 5:36 pm » wrote: ↑ no country has all of the means of production owned by the state (not even the USSR was like that) and ALL countries have SOME.
and I dunno about Singapore...but i think that in Norway politicians are probably at the mercy of the press and money from NGOs and pressure groups...which is a condition that results in the ascendancy of the merchant.
Liberalism is itself a form of government that expands merchant power as much as possible. Money rules any liberal government.
I have never looked t norway's share of its market, but I CAN tell you it dwarf's temesek (singapore's sovereign wealth fund) in gross value - by like 50 or 100 times.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:22 pm
Holdor » 17 Jul 2022, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑ Solar Panels cost about $1 per watt, and they last at least 20 years.
Yeah, that isn't what the thread is about, there, Mensa.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:22 pm
I surpassed intellect and instinctively recognize the core of natural separation of life evolving in plain sight. tick tock. And yes I know where your canon came from Prop in the movie The Pride and Passion.Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑ You usually spew a good bit of nonsense - but you have surpassed yourself.
17 Jul 2022 7:27 pm
Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2022, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah, that isn't what the thread is about, there, Mensa.
98% Macho man, are you missing your balls?
You have banned me from everyone of your PNG Threads, some I have not even posted in,
What are scared of?
17 Jul 2022 7:29 pm
omh » 17 Jul 2022, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑ I surpassed intellect and instinctively recognize the core of natural separation of life evolving in plain sight. tick tock. And yes I know where your canon came from Prop in the movie The Pride and Passion.
No, son, it came from the kremlin - it's the tsar cannon, the largest cannon on earth.
It is so powerful that if they used it on godzilla, he would die after he took five steps.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:30 pm
Holdor » 17 Jul 2022, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑ 98% Macho man, are you missing your balls?
You have banned me from everyone of your PNG Threads, some I have not even posted in,
What are scared of?
Never mistake contempt for fear, bring-nothing.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:30 pm
Cannonpointer » 02 May 2014, 10:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Instead of definitions, let's talk functions.
Look at the materials required to construct a solar panel.They cost about $200.00. Add a day's labor to that $200.00, and you've got yourself a solar panel. You could sell iffor $400.00, and you've got yourself a job. So, why isn't anyone doing it?We live in a free enterprise economy, do we not?
Not.
We live in a capitalist economy, which games the system to PREVENT free enterprise. You are not allowed to sell your solar panels without a stamp of approval from Underwriters Laboratories -and they are gate keepers for Wall Street.The cost of shaking hands with UL prevents free enterprisers from operating in that market -and the same thing is going on in almost every market. The little guy is locked out by the engineered and manipulated expense of sitting at the table - locked out. Only Wall Streeters, using OTHER PEOPLES' capital, can afford to play in the game.
We need to go back to a free enterprise economy, where the little guy does not face unsurmountable obstacles to starting a small business.
What is the Thread about?, It looks like it about the cost of a SOlar Panel to me
17 Jul 2022 7:31 pm
Holdor » 17 Jul 2022, 7:30 pm » wrote: ↑ What is the Thread about?, It looks like it about the cost of a SOlar Panel to me
That's how stupid you are, waste.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Jul 2022 7:32 pm
Hawaii has been Subsidizing Solar for YEARS.
They give 10 year no interest loans to install Solar, then will BUy Excess Energy from the People.
They give 10 year no interest loans to install Solar, then will BUy Excess Energy from the People.
17 Jul 2022 7:34 pm
Look at you playing father time and I am just a little human being speckled in the current population nobody else accepts life in real time.Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2022, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑ No, son, it came from the kremlin - it's the tsar cannon, the largest cannon on earth.
It is so powerful that if they used it on godzilla, he would die after he took five steps.
Guess what, you are more responsible for everyone ignoring Natural World Order than I am, as you try saving manifested New World Order each generation passing through..
17 Jul 2022 7:37 pm
The first time I posted you called every vile Trump name you could of think of, Then I find out you ban me for posting good Trump cuts,
You are a Small Child, I am a Big Boy.
17 Jul 2022 7:48 pm
you are a sour winner that must eliminate any opposition before next election. Discrediting type of elimination on the psychological class warfare level.Holdor » 17 Jul 2022, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑ The first time I posted you called every vile Trump name you could of think of, Then I find out you ban me for posting good Trump cuts,
You are a Small Child, I am a Big Boy.
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