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Blackvegetable » 21 Apr 2021, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 10:51 am

It's about reducing availability....

And that's plenty good enough reason.

That ammosexuals will break the law is not a reason to stop making laws controlling the damage wrought by their Maker's cruelty.

It is not reducing availability.  Those hundreds of millions out there are available and will not be affected by the law.  They will still be legal.  Nod if you understand.  If you already have them you are not breaking the law.  

This law does nothing.  It is cheese. And as I stated, as in the VA Tech shooting you claimed was not relevant, some who is going to do that just brings more magazines.  Nod if you understand. 

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:17 am

Is the internet broken?

**** off if you have no argument

I do have an argument.  I go bump the thread where overall gun deaths are discussed.  See my answers there.  THIS is about murders, mass murders and magazine capacity. 

Blackvegetable » 21 Apr 2021, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 10:51 am

It's about reducing availability....

And that's plenty good enough reason.

That ammosexuals will break the law is not a reason to stop making laws controlling the damage wrought by their Maker's cruelty.

Once again, this proposed law, like all the others...past, present and future...is about "punishing" those who obey the law rather than those who break the law.

And you can cut the preemptive bull ****.  We don't hamper the rights of everyone because a very small minority MIGHT decide to break the law one day.
 
 

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:17 am

Is the internet broken?

**** off if you have no argument

My thread junior.

150 died of gun violence in NH n 2019.  That is two weekends in chicago. 

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:23 am

So you dont want me to derail this thread?

Lighten up francis

I don't care if you do or not.  But don't expect me to respond to stuff I have already addressed.

Carry on Mikey.  

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:24 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:24 am

Call a cop

I may start posting on the difference between chicago and New York pizza

Go right on ahead.  It does not reflect on me.  Have fun.  

One is square and deep dish the other is foldable.

THere is all you need to know.  

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:22 am

Actually we do all the time

Related (and relevant) examples?
 
 

Huey » 21 Apr 2021, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:18 am

It is not reducing availability.  Those hundreds of millions out there are available and will not be affected by the law.  They will still be legal.  Nod if you understand.  If you already have them you are not breaking the law.  

This law does nothing.  It is cheese. And as I stated, as in the VA Tech shooting you claimed was not relevant, some who is going to do that just brings more magazines.  Nod if you understand.

You just rebleat the same stupid ****, over and over..

Let's reduce this to your argument:


There shall be no laws proposed having anything to do with firearms because there are too many.


Let's roll with the Utter Mindwarping Idiocy of this proposition.


Say the objective IS to reduce the supply...


Are you more likely to succeed in doing so by continuing to manufacture the item whose supply you seek to control, or by curtailing such manufacture?



 

Huey » 21 Apr 2021, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:27 am

I don't care if you do or not.  But don't expect me to respond to stuff I have already addressed.

Carry on Mikey.

But don't expect me to respond to stuff I have already addressed.

37X, please.....you're killing me over here..

:rofl:  

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:34 am

Do I have the right to vote?

Must register first

Do I have the right to enter my country?

Passport

Those are not related to the basics of the discussion.  Besides, if someone commits voter fraud or votes illegally we don't restrict your right to vote.

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:39 am

Opinion noted and dismissed 


 

Baby

Blackvegetable » 21 Apr 2021, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:34 am

You just rebleat the same stupid ****, over and over..

Let's reduce this to your argument:

There shall be no laws proposed having anything to do with firearms because there are too many.

Let's roll with the Utter Mindwarping Idiocy of this proposition.

Say the objective IS to reduce the supply...

Are you more likely to succeed in doing so by continuing to manufacture the item whose supply you seek to control, or by curtailing such manufacture?

Let's reduce this to your argument:

That is not my argument.  Try again.  


If you had read the information before making comments the fact that "too many are out there" refers to the portion of the bill that keeps them LEGALLY in circulation.  Doesn't matter if it is 50 million or 300 million.  The bill will only affect new purchases.  And since there are 100s of millions already out there this particular bill is worthless.  

Next, as the VA Tech shooting demonstrates, those inclined to do this will just bring MORE magazines.  Only takes a second to change.  So the bill is worthless in that regard.  

You have, as usual, misrepresented my argument because you can not what I am actually arguing.  

What else ya go?  

Blackvegetable » 21 Apr 2021, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:35 am

37X, please.....you're killing me over here..

I bumped the thread with the responses.  He knows it well.  It was his thread.  

Carry on Nan. 

Vegasgiants » 21 Apr 2021, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:41 am

That's your evidence?

HAHAHAHAHA

No, just a well-informed opinion.
 

ConsRule » 21 Apr 2021, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:38 am

Those are not related to the basics of the discussion.  Besides, if someone commits voter fraud or votes illegally we don't restrict your right to vote.

That is an excellent point.  

Huey » 21 Apr 2021, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:41 am

I bumped the thread with the responses.  He knows it well.  It was his thread.  

Carry on Nan.

In other words,

"Read the OP"

Blackvegetable » 21 Apr 2021, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 12:06 pm

In other words,

"Read the OP"

This thread is not about overall gun deaths, whether murder, accidental, or suicide.  Just saying.  

ConsRule » 21 Apr 2021, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 11:38 am

Those are not related to the basics of the discussion.  Besides, if someone commits voter fraud or votes illegally we don't restrict your right to vote.

Except there's no substitute for "vote"..

There are plenty for 10 round mags.
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You're arguing there are already too many in circulation, so how is prohibiting future manufacture a restriction to you?
 

Huey » 21 Apr 2021, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 12:07 pm

This thread is not about overall gun deaths, whether murder, accidental, or suicide.  Just saying.

You gonna divert with yet more NRA spoonfed mendacity?

Blackvegetable » 21 Apr 2021, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2021, 12:10 pm

Except there's no substitute for "vote"..

There are plenty for 10 round mags.
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You're arguing there are already too many in circulation, so how is prohibiting future manufacture a restriction to you?

You still don't get it.  The law is not going to reduce mass murders.  If you were talking 20 or 30 round magazines you would have a point.  Although people would just carry more smaller capacity magazines.