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Vegasgiants » 03 Jun 2021, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2021, 3:14 pm

Then why didnt he take it.  Lol

IkeBana » 03 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm

You have a medical degree?  No.
Maybe a doctorate in biochemistry?  No.
PhD in Microbiology?  No.
Genetics?  No.
B.S. in biology?  No.
H.S. diploma?  Maybe.

What’s that got to do with it?

Cedar » 03 Jun 2021, 9:51 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2021, 9:51 pm

At least with cat piss you won’t be dead within 2 years.

lol.

Vegas » wrote:

20 Jan 1970, 7:06 am

Cedar » 03 Jun 2021, 7:56 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2021, 7:56 pm

Neither is your "vaccine" approved to prevent it.

Then dont take it.  Inject cat piss for all I care

 

If their whole lives are going to be ruled by their sick emotional attachment to Donald Trump, because at the bottom of all this...it's what this anti-vaxxer **** is all about now, they can inject cat piss and die for all I care.

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 7:06 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 7:06 am

Except trump never took it when he had covid.  Lol

Everything you have claimed has now been debunked because you are a lying sack of moonbat ****!!!

"President Donald Trump has been touting chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine since March as effective treatments for COVID-19. He even took hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic measure for two weeks in May."

He took hydroxychloroquine!!! It was just not part of his hospital regime.  BUT HE TOOK IT, YOU GODDAMN IGNORANT LIAR!!!

https://reason.com/2020/10/05/hydroxych ... t-regimen/

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 7:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 7:49 am

So he took it to prevent covid AND HE GOT COVID

Deny that

HAHAHAHAHA

That does not matter.  You stated several times that Trump never took hydroxychloroquine and he did.  So you, in your goddamn ****, moonbatty, uninformed idiocy LIED!!!

Deny that, asshole!!!

     

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 7:54 am

Dude did it work

Just answer that

I guarantee that you will run.

I NEVER claimed it worked or anything else about hydroxychloroquine, LIAR.  My claim was/is that Ivermectin works agianst the kung flu.  I have presented seeral sources that prove it does and you have continuously denied them because they are not your bought and paid for propaganda of big pharma and the lapdog media because big pharma is unable to make $BILLIONS in profit from an old, safe, non-patented remedy.  Proving you are a ****, moonbatty, lying idiot.

You claimed Trump never took hydroxychloroquine.  He did, so that makes you a **** LIAR!!!

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 7:54 am

Dude did it work

Just answer that

I guarantee that you will run.

He had a mild case of Rona. Did Hydroxychloroquine lessen the severity of the disease as the vaccines have done in breakout cases? Unknown but certainly possible. 
 

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 8:12 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 8:12 am

Mild case?  He was hospitalized and given 8 different medications to treat it.

And ivermectin was not one of them

Facts are facts

He was up doing business the entire time. Mild case compared to most. Arguable he would have been admitted to the hospital if he wasn't the president. 
 

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 8:10 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 8:10 am

Yeah trump was **** wrong.  It DID NOT HELP PREVENT COVID IN HIM.

HE GOT COVID ANYWAY AND WHEN HE DID HE SURE DID NOT TAKE IVERMECTIN 

NOW DENY THAT IDIOT.  LOL

Oh, so now your trying to change the narrative to Trump , you disingenuous prick.  Your obsessed with Trump being wrong. 

You put your faith (because you are a ****, moonbatty sheople) in what your are told by big pharma and the lapdog, enemy of the people, lying, leftist, in this case big pharma controlled media.  Their claim that Ivermectin has not been tested and therefore unproven is a lie.

Remdesivir: Remdesivir is an anti-viral drug that is given intravenously. Two randomized controlled trials found that the drug improved the outcomes for patients hospitalized for COVID-19. In October, the Food and Drug Administration approved remdesivir as a treatment for COVID-19.
(2-TWO randomized trials and the big pharma owned FDA approves its use, ****!!!)

Baricitinib: A drug originally marketed to treat rheumatoid arthritis, in November, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization for baricitinib as a treatment for COVID-19. An emergency use authorization allows the FDA to approve the use of a treatment during an emergency without the same level of evidence that would fully establish its effectiveness and safety. (Again the FDA approved its use without the standard level of testing)Bamlanivimab: Bamlanivimab is a monoclonal antibody produced by Eli Lilly to treat COVID-19. Monoclonal antibodies are proteins developed in a laboratory that are designed to mimic the way the immune system attacks a pathogen. One randomized controlled trial has found that bamlanivimab reduced the amount of the coronavirus and symptoms in outpatients. It also slightly reduced the number of patients who had to be hospitalized or go to the emergency room. Yet this was only phase two of the trial. A larger phase three needs to be conducted before the full safety and efficacy of the treatment can be determined.
That was enough for the FDA to issue an emergency use authorization for bamlanivimab as a treatment for COVID-19 in November. In response to the FDA’s action, the National Institutes of Health later released a statement saying at present, "there are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of bamlanivimab for the treatment of outpatients with mild to moderate COVID-19. ( Approved by the FDA  with insufficient testing!!!)

 REGN-COV2: This treatment is a cocktail of two monoclonal antibodies, casirivimab and imdevimab, produced by Regeneron. In September, Regeneron released preliminary findings of 275 patients and found that the treatment had reduced the amount of the coronavirus in outpatients. Regeneron released more data in October of 524 patients that showed that the amount of the coronavirus in outpatients who received REGN-COV2 dropped by tenfold when compared to patients who received a placebo. A larger trial of REGN-COV2 is ongoing.

In November, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization for REGN-COV2 as a treatment for COVID-19 in outpatients. However, the NIH released a statement saying there was not yet sufficient data to recommend REGN-COV2 as a treatment for COVID-19. (Enough said)


 Convalescent plasma: This is plasma from people who have recovered from COVID-19 and then infused into a patient who is suffering from the virus. In theory, convalescent plasma contains antibodies that can fight the infection. In August, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization for convalescent plasma. However, the evidence supporting convalescent plasma is weak, leading the NIH to disagree with the FDA’s decision.

A Mayo Clinic study of 35,000 patients found a lower death rate among COVID-19 patients given convalescent plasma within three days of diagnosis versus those who were given it after four days or more. Yet the study lacked a control group, so it is unclear if the lower death rate was caused by the treatment or other factors.


A Chinese study found positive results for convalescent plasma but only had 10 patients in the study. A larger Chinese study of 103 patients found no positive impact. (Again an approval from the FDA with insufficient evidence of it effectiveness)

 Corticosteroids: These types of steroids have been used for years to treat autoimmune diseases. A trial in the United Kingdom found COVID-19 patients treated with one type of corticosteroid, dexamethasone, had a slightly lower death rate than patients who were not treated with it. It seemed to work particularly well for patients who needed a ventilator.

Additionally, a meta-analysis of seven randomized trials found that patients hospitalized with COVID-19 who took a corticosteroid had a lower death rate than those who did not. At present, though, neither the FDA nor the WHO recommends corticosteroids as a treatment for COVID-19. (Hmm, found to work but not recommended by the big pharma owned FDA)


Hydroxychloroquine: This is another drug that was given an emergency use authorization by the FDA to treat COVID-19. When the FDA gave the authorization in March, it based it on limited research done in a laboratory and anecdotal clinical data. In July, the FDA revoked hydroxychloroquine’s emergency use authorization as more data showed that it was not effective at treating COVID-19.  Big pharma owned FDA approved based on LIMITED RESEARCH!!!)

 Ivermectin: Ivermectin is an anti-parasite drug that has shown promise in the laboratory as a treatment that can reduce the amount of the coronavirus. But research in the laboratory conducted on cell cultures is quite different than actually testing it on human beings. A journal article reviewing the laboratory research concluded that the doses of ivermectin used in the laboratories were too large to be used safely in humans.
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But a group of physicians calling themselves the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance has released a review of the research on invermectin as a treatment in actual COVID-19 patients. Much of the research involves using safe dosages in randomized controlled trials. The overall results are promising, showing that those who took invermectin had a shorter duration of symptoms. But critics have attacked those studies for having small sample sizes that can lead to biased outcomes.  ( Completely ignoring the fact that Ivvermectin has been given to 100's of 100,00's around the world showing its effectiveness against the kung flu with virtually no adverse side effects)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... r-BB1cpYTH

Why is the effectiveness of Ivermectin being ignored?  BECAUSE BIG PHARMA CANNOT PROFIT $BILLIONS FROM IVERMECTIN BECAUSE THEY CANNOT RENAME IT AND PATENT IT AND JACK UP THE PRICE.

**** you you disingenuous, ****, moonbatty, lying idiot!!!
 
 

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 7:13 am

Great then show me where the fda has specifically authorized the use of ivermectin FOR THE TREATMENT OF COVID.

I'll wait

Remdesivir is approved for covid treatment
 
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... t-covid-19

The mere fact that it has been proved safe in vivo IS the authorization for off label prescription.

Doctors are prescribing it for covid and not being punished. That means it is authorized.

Suck on it, simpleton.
 
 
 

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:13 am

Just take a double dose of DR Trump's hydroxychloroquine "cure all."

Please.  

You would be doing humanity a huge favor. 

Many doctors around the globe are prescribing hydroxychloroquine for covid. And it's working.

Suck on it, kid. You don't HAVE to like it.
 

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:30 am

Are you a doctor?  

Are you yourself and your family taking Hydroxychloroquine for covid?

I'll probably never take DR CP's medical advice...about anything. 

Isn't the virus a hoax?

Many doctors around the globe are prescribing hydroxychloroquine for covid. And it's working.

Suck on it, kid. You don't HAVE to like it.

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am

Where is your proof?

My proof of WHAT, queer?

That doctors are prescribing hydroxychlorquine for covid?

That's one google click away, ***. I'm not going to be accused of a gish gallop. ANYONE can verify my claim - so **** you.

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am

Are you a doctor?

No.

You are a kid that lives in his mother's basement,  that wears a sock on his head,  and sucks on some sort of vaping device. 

Many doctors around the globe are prescribing hydroxychloroquine for covid. And it's working.

Suck on it, kid. You don't HAVE to like it.

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 10:16 am

Ii is not approved by the fda for covid.

Remdesivir is as I showed.

You lose

So you falsified a claim I never made, dick sucker?

Brilliant.

By the way, you did not show that the FDA has approved remdesivir, dumb ***.

You need to sort the difference between authorized and approved.

Rigor, queer. Get some.

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 10:17 am

They can prescribe grapefruit juice too if they want

It sure didnt work for trump.  Lol

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Don't try to understand ****, just grab glans and slam ****, soon you'll be riding on a co-o-o-o-o-ck...

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Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 10:16 am

Cannonpointer » 04 Jun 2021, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 8:57 am

 That means it is authorized.

Ii is not approved
 

The dick sucker is utterly without rigor in her speaking.

She interchanges terms like a small female child.
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jun 2021, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:56 am

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am

Where is your proof?

My proof of WHAT, queer?

That doctors are prescribing hydroxychlorquine for covid?

That's one google click away, ***. I'm not going to be accused of a gish gallop. ANYONE can verify my claim - so **** you.

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:50 am

Are you a doctor?

No.

You are a kid that lives in his mother's basement,  that wears a sock on his head,  and sucks on some sort of vaping device. 

Many doctors around the globe are prescribing hydroxychloroquine for covid. And it's working.

Suck on it, kid. You don't HAVE to like it.

 

 

DennisTheMenace » 04 Jun 2021, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 10:08 am

Cannonpointer » 04 Jun 2021, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 9:56 am

My proof of WHAT, queer?

I've always suspected you were queer.  

Thanks for finally admitting it.   

 
 

 

Itsn't it revealing how the ****, moonbatty, idiots here change the narrative and run when they are being proven liars.  Yet, they try to accuse you/us of doing the running.  Denise, vaginagiant and dikethebanana are the worst.  Some of the others I choose just to ignore their moonbatty drivel.

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 10:24 am

APPROVED

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the antiviral drug Veklury (remdesivir) for use in adult and pediatric patients 12 years of age and older and weighing at least 40 kilograms (about 88 pounds) for the treatment of COVID-19 requiring hospitalization. Vek

You are correct - remdesivir is APPROVED, which is different than authorized.

Here, a real link: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-a ... ectiveness

This approval does not include the entire population that had been authorized to use Veklury under a mechanism called emergency use authorization (EUA), which is not the same as approval.

See that last bit? Authorized and approved have different medical and legal meanings. Rigor, young lady. Get some.
 

Vegasgiants » 04 Jun 2021, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2021, 10:31 am

Yes it is approved for treatment of covid.  Just not for the entire population.  

Which is a exact quote from the fda

Correct. All the other stuff - ivermectin, the vaccines, grapefruit juice - is merely authorized.

I'm glad we were able to find common ground - that you were able to educate me regarding remdesivir, and I was able to educate you regarding authorized vs. approved.

I was ignorant of specific information - I did not know that remdesivir had long been approved in specified circumstances.

You were lacking rigor - now you are without further excuse for mixing up authorized with approved.

We should both be happy with this outcome - I know that I am.