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DeezerShoove » 23 Jul 2021, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 8:51 am

Are you stupid?

"OP ED" must have confused you, ****.

You whiny little pricks are desperate to find ANYTHING to pick at...
It's so bad you ignore Prezimun Huh/Wha? giant goofs and start missing THIS ****?

         

**** you, ya lying asshole.

Huey » 23 Jul 2021, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 8:45 am

Of course....The DEMA Standard.

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:00 am

Can you figure out why, Recidivist Rube?

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

DeezerShoove » 23 Jul 2021, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:03 am

Gee, a question... Get ****, piece of **** ****.

I know what I posted. YOU are the one that is confused about it.

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:06 am

DeezerShoove » 23 Jul 2021, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:03 am

Gee, a question... Get ****, piece of **** ****.

I know what I posted. YOU are the one that is confused about it.

And I'm asking if you understand why it is posted under "Opinion"..


It matters.....just ask Johnny Solomon - if you can locate him.

 

Blackvegetable » 28 Jun 2021, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jun 2021, 2:41 pm

Huey » 28 Jun 2021, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jun 2021, 2:13 pm

Stilulate right here and tight now that in fact an opinion piece can contain facts.  And that you will never bitch and divert about that ever again.

WTF?

You don't understand the distinction.

This isn't the opinion writer aggregating a set of facts in support of an argument. This is merely reporting the facts of a survey done by a 3rd, unaffiliated, party...

What you need to do now is support your **** hokum about how teabaggers were about Principle, given their considerable support for the Carnicero de Surplus..
 

 

Huey » 23 Jul 2021, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:17 am

BV when he posts opinion pieces

Way to go DEMA.

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:21 am

Dwarf,

I understand that, in your tiny mind, everything is "the same".

But I made a distinction quite clear..

But, simpleton, this isn't about USING opinion, it's about why it is PRINTED as opinion.

Being a moron, with severely compromised recall, you are not expected to recall your humiliation on this very score.

Huey » 23 Jul 2021, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:23 am

DEMA, you post opinion pieces all the time.  Live by your own standards!      

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:24 am

It's not about "posting opinion pieces"..

Nod if you understand.

DeezerShoove » 23 Jul 2021, 6:45 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 6:45 am

Horowitz: Data from India continues to blow up the ‘Delta’ fear narrative

OP-ED DANIEL HOROWITZ  JULY 22, 2021     

Rather than proving the need to sow more panic, fear, and control over people, the story from India — the source of the "Delta" variant — continues to refute every current premise of COVID fascism. The prevailing narrative from Fauci, Walensky, and company is that Delta is more serious than anything before, and even though vaccines are even less effective against it, its spread proves the need to vaccinate even more people. Unless we do that, we must return to the very effective lockdowns and masks. In reality, India's experience proves the opposite true; namely:
1.  Delta is largely an attenuated version, with a much lower fatality rate, that for most people is akin to a cold.
2.  Masks failed to stop the spread there.
3.  The country has come close to the herd immunity threshold with just 3% vaccinated.
4.  Most people are now getting cold-like symptoms from Delta, but to the extent countries hit by Delta suffered some deaths and serious illness, they could have been avoided not with vaccines and masks, but with early and preventive treatment like ivermectin.

 In other words, our government is learning all the wrong lessons from India, and now Israel and the U.K. Let's unpack what we know occurred in India and now in some of the other countries experiencing a surge in cases of the Indian "Delta" variant.The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) recently conducted a fourth nationwide serological test and found that 67.6% of those over 6 years old in June and July had antibodies, including 85% of health care workers. This is a sharp increase from the 24.1% level detected during the December-January study. What we can conclude definitively is that strict mask-wearing (especially among health care workers) failed to stop the spread one bit. Yet now they have achieved herd immunity and burned out the virus with just 3% vaccination (now up to 6%) with roughly one-sixth the death rate of the U.S. and the U.K. and less than one-half that of Israel.

 Immediately, naysayers will suggest that somehow India is vastly undercounting the deaths because it is a shabby third-world country. However, if we are to suggest that, it would mean that so much of the data from so many other countries we use for studies must be ignored. Also, it's true that India is poor in some areas, but it is highly developed and has a very strong bureaucracy and administrative state throughout. There might be undercounting, but the notion that it can account for that wide a gap between India and the U.S./U.K. was always unlikely.However, now that the Delta has spread to other countries like Israel and the U.K., we need not speculate who is right about India's death rate. The fact that Israel and the U.K. have so many Delta cases yet so few deaths relative to the winter spread of the original strain demonstrates that Delta is likely much weaker and India's numbers are probably close to accurate. Remember, most of India's spread, unlike in the West, occurred with Delta, long after the ancestral strain that hit the West was gone. If it really was the bloodbath some are suggesting (a tenfold undercount of deaths, in their estimation), why is the data from the U.K. showing just the opposite?

 The latest data from the U.K. show that the case fatality rate for the Delta is just 0.2%, much less than the others. And we need not speculate with generalized studies. The raw data shows that since May 1, there have been approximately 1,300 deaths in the U.K. out of roughly 1.1 million confirmed cases. But those are confirmed cases. The likely infection fatality rate is much lower because now more than ever, people are avoiding testing, and the U.K. media has been reporting for weeks that the symptoms of the Delta for most people appear more like a cold.The Guardian reports that based on data from the app-based Zoe COVID symptom study, the symptoms being reported are mainly headaches and runny nose. "People might think they've just got some sort of seasonal cold, and they still go out to parties … we think this is fueling a lot of the problem," said Tim Spector, a professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London, who is leading the work on the reporting app.

The U.K. media are trying to panic people about spreading a cold, but in fact, they are reporting good news! This virus has attenuated for most people to the point that they can't even distinguish it from a cold, much less a flu. Thus, the fact that India achieved most of its immunity throughout the spread of the Delta variant actually lends a lot of credence to the fatality rate of one-sixth of that of the U.S. and the U.K., which experienced most of its deaths from the ancestral strain.If you look at any chart from Scotland, which is now mainly over the curve, there is a complete decoupling of deaths from cases.The same thing is being observed in Israel, which is slightly behind the curve. The country has had just 20 deaths so far in July, but again, 15 of them were of vaccinated individuals.However, to the extent that there are cases, and the relatively rare serious cases, the vaccines have proven to be a bust in preventing them. The Western countries are relying on an exponentially higher vaccination rate than India with a much lower seroprevalence rate from infection. It's simply not working. According to Israel's Ministry of Health, the Pfizer vaccine efficacy against infection dropped 42% since the start of the inoculation drive in Israel, and efficacy against severe illness has dropped 60% among those vaccinated early on. Ditto for the United Kingdom.

In fact, in Israel, the case rates track almost perfectly with the percentage of those vaccinated stratified by age range.Thus, the experience from India and the Delta variant teaches us the exact opposite of what the panic-mongers are pushing. Natural immunity, not vaccination, is king. Which explains the dichotomy between India and countries like Gibraltar. In Gibraltar, nearly every adult in the tiny country has been vaccinated, yet it has the third-highest per capita rate of infection in the world.  

The same trend appears to be playing out in Cyprus:In general, there is zero correlation between vaccination rates and better outcomes, and in fact, many Latin American countries with the highest vaccination rates have recently had high infection rates, and many eastern European countries with lower vaccination rates had many fewer cases than their vaccine-obsessed western European counterparts. Here in the U.S., San Francisco, which had a low infection rate until recently, has seen an explosion in cases, despite a 70% vaccination rate.At the same time, as I chronicled last month in great detail, even within India, the states that used ivermectin to treat COVID experienced a much sharper and quicker drop in cases in May. Imagine if the Western world used ivermectin and many other treatment options pre-emptively and prescribed them at every testing station. That is how you flatten a curve.

 The lesson is clear: The only way out of this is for most people to get it, and the best way to do that safely is to make sure early treatments with drugs like ivermectin are made available and to be used even preventively for vulnerable populations. If this is really about saving lives, rather than doubling down on all of the things that have failed and distorting data and history to comport with pseudo-science, they would try the one thing they have shunned until now – actually treating the virus before people have trouble breathing.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is correct when she says, "Nearly every death, especially among adults, due to Covid-19 is at this point entirely preventable." But the data and learned experience show that it's not because of a lack of vaccines, but a lack of treatment.

supraTruth » 23 Jul 2021, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 3:15 pm

The longer we delay snuffing this **** out, the more it evolves, making vaccinations dated.

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:06 am

And I'm asking if you understand why it is posted under "Opinion"..

It matters.....just ask Johnny Solomon - if you can locate him.

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Huey » 23 Jul 2021, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 9:17 am

BV when he posts opinion pieces

Way to go DEMA.

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

DeezerShoove » 23 Jul 2021, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 4:57 pm

Who the **** is that? I don't know your boyfriends.

DeezerShoove » 23 Jul 2021, 5:02 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 5:02 pm

I want to see how he admits to his **** up.
My guess is - no reply.

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 6:04 pm

staggeringly stupid human being....

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Buffalo » 24 Jul 2021, 8:01 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 8:01 pm

Doctors Raise Awareness on Ivermectin Treatment for COVID-19

BY MEILING LEE July 24, 2021 Updated: July 24, 2021

In an effort to help end the pandemic, an international coalition of medical experts is holding worldwide events Saturday to raise awareness about the effectiveness of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Organizers of the World Ivermectin Day say doctors and supporters of the inexpensive FDA-approved drug will host free online and public events in over a dozen countries.

Two nonprofits—Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Alliance and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) group—who have been campaigning for the off-label use of ivermectin to prevent and treat COVID-19 say the event’s focus is to let more people know that the antiparasitic drug can treat COVID-19, possibly end the pandemic, and help eliminate fear of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

“We have an incredibly positive and uplifting message to share: ivermectin treats and prevents COVID and it is the key to unlocking the never-ending cycle of pandemic peaks and personal restrictions and will help restart economies,” Dr. Tess Lawrie, cofounder of the BIRD group said in a press release.

Lawrie is also a co-author of a peer-reviewed meta-analysis study published in the American Journal of Therapeutics that found ivermectin to be effective against COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP virus. Lawrie and her team concluded with a moderate level of confidence that ivermectin reduced the risk of death by an average of 62 percent, at a 95 percent confidence interval of 0.19-0.73, especially when prescribed early.

FLCCC Alliance also conducted their own review of 18 randomized controlled trials on COVID-19 treatment with ivermectin. They found “large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.” The authors also said that studies on the prevention of COVID-19 reported significantly reduced risks of the disease with regular use of the drug.

Members of the FLCCC Alliance have developed various protocols for the prevention and early treatment of COVID-19, instead of having patients wait until they develop a severe illness to receive treatment at the hospital. These treatment protocols including one for the management of long COVID are being used globally.

The current standard protocol for COVID-19 positive patients is to isolate at home, avoid dehydration, rest, and take over-the-counter medications for fever, headache, cough, and body pain.

According to updated guidance from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 and who are at high risk of disease progression, are recommended to take a monoclonal antibody if hospitalization or supplemental oxygen is not required.

Despite evidence showing ivermectin may treat all stages of COVID-19 and reduce death and hospitalization as a result of its anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties, the FDA has not approved its use, saying that the drug isn’t an anti-viral. The federal regulator issued a warning that people should not take ivermectin intended for horses as the larger doses may be harmful to humans.

The NIH has not changed its neutral stance on the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19, while the World Health Organization (WHO) does not recommend the use of the drug except in a clinical study. Both organizations cite insufficient data for not making a recommendation.

Unprecedented Censorship
Online discussions of ivermectin have faced an unprecedented level of suppression with doctors claiming that their videos are being taken down or their LinkedIn accounts closed.

Lawrie said she has experienced censorship with her work on ivermectin, claiming that her videos about the drug have been removed and posts censored on social media.

“I have experienced a lot of censorship ever since I started doing work on ivermectin (never before),” Lawrie told The Epoch Times via email. “I have had my post of my published peer-reviewed scientific manuscript removed from LinkedIn.”

She also said that many people have informed her that their accounts would be restricted or censored “if they post the work my company has produced on ivermectin or interviews that I have done.”

LinkedIn did not reply to a request for comment.

Dr. Mobeen Syed, chief executive officer of Drbeen Corp, an online medical education, said YouTube took down three of his videos on ivermectin within 24 hours.

“[Third] book burnt in 24 hours. @Youtube @TeamYouTube continue to burn books,” Syed said on Twitter on July 11. “This video was important to keep people safe who are using ivermectin regardless of what YouTube thinks.”

YouTube did not reply to The Epoch Times inquiry on clarification of which terms or conditions Syed’s videos had violated.

Ivermectin is not the only topic being suppressed or blocked by Big Tech firms. Social media posts about the lab leak theory that the CCP virus escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan, China, and information that goes against the narrative about the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine has also been censored.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki suggested at a White House briefing that people should be banned from all social media platforms if they post misinformation online about COVID-19 vaccines, alleging that this type of information was “leading to people not taking the vaccine.” Psaki’s suggestion has drawn widespread condemnation.

Regardless of the suppression of ivermectin around the world, people have found unique ways to get the information out. Social media posts of lawn signs have appeared in Manitoba, Canada with a simple message that reads, “Ivermectin treats COVID-19” along with the FLCCC website listed.

Members of the FLCCC Alliance said in a reply to an email that they would continue their mission in getting ivermectin approved for COVID-19 despite the censorship.

“Thank you for your email. Abandoning our mission is not [an] option. Yes, it has been hell. But as Winston Churchill once said, ‘If you’re going through hell, keep going.’ So if we need to leave you here, we understand. But we’ll march on. Your life matters that much,” the nonprofit said earlier this month.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_break ... cvqw%3D%3D

supraTruth » 25 Jul 2021, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2021, 1:06 pm

Or just take the safer vaccinations.