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Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 9:36 am

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 9:25 am

If you had just posted that earlier when requested we would be further along in the discussion.

My turn to ask.  During the speech on Jan 6th what did Trump tell the crowd to do concerning marching to the capitol building?  

Remember your rule.  Answer the first time.  I already got you on refusing to agree to a stipulation.

Dwarf,

Here we are again.

Evidence in front of your face.


You answer the questions - THE FIRST TIME....and we move swiftly to resolution.

My turn to ask.

No questions.

Your rule.

Remember your rule.  Answer the first time.  I already got you on refusing to agree to a stipulation.

No....you're lying.
 

 

Here we are again.  BV refusing to answer questions when his have been answered.  And he still has not made a case.  

This is what he said:

He said: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

Game over. It was only supported by fringe political groups.

You said a couple of things were wrong.  What is the other?  I bet you won't answer that either.

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 9:48 am

Here we are again.  BV refusing to answer questions when his have been answered.  And he still has not made a case.  

This is what he said:

He said: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

Game over. It was only supported by fringe political groups.

You said a couple of things were wrong.  What is the other?  I bet you won't answer that either.

Dwarf,


NO ONE cares how your influencers have trained you to spin it..
​​​​​
The objective fact that the spin made absolutely no impression on

3 of his cabinet officers

His AG

Leader of the Senate


should give you some idea...

Obliging you to stipulate to it places whatever propaganda you hack up in appropriate context. Specifically, well out of the mainstream of even Grifter Sycophant thinking.







 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 10:15 am

Dwarf,

NO ONE cares how your influencers have trained you to spin it..
​​​​​
The objective fact that the spin made absolutely no impression on

3 of his cabinet officers

His AG

Leader of the Senate

should give you some idea...

Obliging you to stipulate to it places whatever propaganda you hack up in appropriate context. Specifically, well out of the mainstream of even Grifter Sycophant thinking.

That is not spin.  Those are his exact words. What else you got?  You said there were a couple of things wrong.  Where is the other.

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 10:17 am

That is not spin.  Those are his exact words. What else you got?  You said there were a couple of things wrong.  Where is the other.

That is not spin.  Those are his exact words. 

It's the interpretation and weight placed on those words by your influencers that is at issue..


Barr, Chao, McConnell, Azar, DeVos, and Barr aren't unaware of what he said, and did...

They just don't exist to defend it..


 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 10:24 am

It's the interpretation and weight placed on those words by your influencers that is at issue..

Barr, Chao, McConnell, Azar, DeVos, and Barr aren't unaware of what he said, and did...

They just don't exist to defend it..

It is very clear to me.  Are you now saying those are preplanned code words? Are saying that:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

really means:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to loudly and violently assault the capitol." 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 9:16 am

You can't win by running from questions.


 

Pot.Kettle.Black.  

Kill yourself.

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 9:10 am

Yes, you are tapping out from making a case.  You lose.  The meme stands.  The reason I play your game, from agreeing to your stipulation to providing what you asked for is to show you are a troll incapable of supporting your narratives.

@Vegas

I have never met such a coward in all my life. Even the narcissists I have in my family aren't as weak as him.

Vegas » 22 Jun 2021, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 11:40 am

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 9:10 am

Yes, you are tapping out from making a case.  You lose.  The meme stands.  The reason I play your game, from agreeing to your stipulation to providing what you asked for is to show you are a troll incapable of supporting your narratives.


 

I have never met such a coward in all my life. Even the narcissists I have in my family aren't as weak as him.

 

He refuses to answer questions when his have been answered.  It takes him pages to make a point.  He refuses to agree to stipulations even after he demands stipulations himself.  He needs total control.  

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 11:46 am

He refuses to answer questions when his have been answered.  It takes him pages to make a point.  He refuses to agree to stipulations even after he demands stipulations himself.  He needs total control.

It's what narcissists do. This is the game narcissists play. They are cowards. I never play any of his games. His stipulations are only for him to use as a manipulation tool. He has zero ability to debate honestly, so he puts up these shields to hide behind. I will never agree to his cowardly tactics. 

Vegas » 22 Jun 2021, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 11:39 am

Pot.Kettle.Black.  

Kill yourself.

Self Awareness set at 0..

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 10:30 am

It is very clear to me.  Are you now saying those are preplanned code words? Are saying that:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

really means:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to loudly and violently assault the capitol."

No..."fight like hell" is a....uhhhhh....you know....Palindrome....no...wait....it's a pun...


Dwarf,

I know you have been armed with a Talking Point...we've been through this idiocy before..

It's not about what you've convinced yourself of.


It's about what it is..


Which is obvious, even to the partisans referenced.

Vegas » 22 Jun 2021, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 11:58 am

It's what narcissists do. This is the game narcissists play. They are cowards. I never play any of his games. His stipulations are only for him to use as a manipulation tool. He has zero ability to debate honestly, so he puts up these shields to hide behind. I will never agree to his cowardly tactics.

You refuse to answer questions.


**** idiot.
 

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 11:46 am

He refuses to answer questions when his have been answered.  It takes him pages to make a point.  He refuses to agree to stipulations even after he demands stipulations himself.  He needs total control.

Always the retelling..

I showed you how the matter is resolved in 5 posts.

If you answer the first time.

 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 12:21 pm

No..."fight like hell" is a....uhhhhh....you know....Palindrome....no...wait....it's a pun...

Dwarf,

I know you have been armed with a Talking Point...we've been through this idiocy before..

It's not about what you've convinced yourself of.

It's about what it is..

Which is obvious, even to the partisans referenced.

And I thought you claimed to be an intelligent, educated man.  Did you ever learn about metaphors?  I am armed with what the man actually said and meant.  

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

But this is your diversion.  The meme stands.  

 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 12:23 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 12:23 pm

Always the retelling..

I showed you how the matter is resolved in 5 posts.

If you answer the first time.

You have not resolved the matter.  YOU are armed with talking points.  If you would just make your point the first time like everyone else the matter would have been resolved in less than 5 posts.

In the future Smelly Scrawny Data Geeks must provide sources and make a case sooner.

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 12:50 pm

You have not resolved the matter.  YOU are armed with talking points.  If you would just make your point the first time like everyone else the matter would have been resolved in less than 5 posts.

In the future Smelly Scrawny Data Geeks must provide sources and make a case sooner.

No....I'm armed with objective facts to which you have already stipulated..

Given the 5 people referenced, Squeaky, I'm entirely relieved of the tedium of beholding you dwarfsplain.

Unless, of course, you can explain why I should privilege your spin over their personal experience and proximity...
 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 10:15 am

Dwarf,

NO ONE cares how your influencers have trained you to spin it..
​​​​​
The objective fact that the spin made absolutely no impression on

3 of his cabinet officers

His AG

Leader of the Senate

should give you some idea...

Obliging you to stipulate to it places whatever propaganda you hack up in appropriate context. Specifically, well out of the mainstream of even Grifter Sycophant thinking.

I SPANKED the loser on this BS before and he could NEVER answer the issue.  Trumps rally was CALLED STOP THE STEAL. He told his people they COULD NOT LET IT HAPPEN. That weakness could never get their country back and what he was telling them to stop was happeing IN ONE HOUR.  The ONLY MECHANISM left to STOP the steal to STOP the certification of the election was VIOLENCE it was too late to get in touch with their congressman it was too late to orgamize it was hppening in ONE OUR the thing he said they could NOT LET IT HAPPEN was happingin in ONE HOUR and violece was the ONLY MECHAMISM that could stop it. No political avenue to stop it was still avaialbe ONLY VIOLENCE

Trump incited an insrrectionst COUP attempt and only LIARS and BRAINWASHED MORONS can deny it
 

Huey » 22 Jun 2021, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 12:48 pm

And I thought you claimed to be an intelligent, educated man.  Did you ever learn about metaphors?  I am armed with what the man actually said and meant.  

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

But this is your diversion.  The meme stands.

No....you trying to force a narrative bought by no one but the Readily Influenced is a diversion from the objective facts to which you were obliged to stipulate...

If Grifty's own faithful flunky AG makes such a public statement there is nothing of which Dan Bongino can convince you which constitutes a more faithful interpretation of events. Events which involve a lot more than the single sentence you've been told to labor..

 
 

Rock » 20 Jun 2021, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2021, 7:29 pm

Yes. Yes he did. Thanks for agreeing. 

 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2021, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 1:14 pm

No....I'm armed with objective facts to which you have already stipulated..

Given the 5 people referenced, Squeaky, I'm entirely relieved of the tedium of beholding you dwarfsplain.

Unless, of course, you can explain why I should privilege your spin over their personal experience and proximity...

I stipulated that they claim that is why the quit.  That is objective fact to what the claimed.