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Jantje_Smit » 30 Jun 2021, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 8:22 am

It's not the same thing as a wormhole... you only warp a tiny portion of space around your ship.. nothing changes to the place you came from or the destination... and nothing happens to time also.. your spaceship wouldn't be moving through space so timeflow would be the same as that of the place you left...

You are sort of missing my point.

If you leave Pt A and reach Pt B instantaneously (wherever that ends up; good luck), ANY time you spend at that location is allowing Pt A to slip away at a high rate of speed. You return to your original "place" Pt A 24 of your hours later and it's gone.

Like I said, magic or some fierce mathematics.

Even Stargate had a device to suck them back to a planet. It wasn't a random shot of luck.
But they still had to use chevrons as a code to establish data points (galaxies which all have moved independently of each other)...
A giant hole in the theory.

I still liked the movie though.   

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm

You are sort of missing my point.

If you leave Pt A and reach Pt B instantaneously (wherever that ends up; good luck), ANY time you spend at that location is allowing Pt A to slip away at a high rate of speed. You return to your original "place" Pt A 24 of your hours later and it's gone.

Like I said, magic or some fierce mathematics.

Even Stargate had a device to suck them back to a planet. It wasn't a random shot of luck.
But they still had to use chevrons as a code to establish data points (galaxies which all have moved independently of each other)...
A giant hole in the theory.

I still liked the movie though. 

Oh dear gawd..Your over my head.. I had Einstein' s  theory of relativity.. Once for a week.. then it took a turn and went outta my head.. LOL to be forever lost... it must have traveled away in light years... i'm serious.  

sootedupCyndi » 30 Jun 2021, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 12:37 pm

Oh dear gawd..Your over my head.. I had Einstein' s  theory of relativity.. Once for a week.. then it took a turn and went outta my head.. LOL to be forever lost... it must have traveled away in light years... i'm serious.

The Theory of Relativity (abridged) by Lincoln Barnett.

I found that to be a fun read when I was in school.
Not everybody's cuppa, though.   

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2021, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 12:47 pm

The Theory of Relativity (abridged) by Lincoln Barnett.

I found that to be a fun read when I was in school.
Not everybody's cuppa, though. 

It's kind of like a complicated thing.. don't lose it.. because it goes away for ever..
 But I heard a fascinating story... I don't think I believe it.. but there was this guy.... his dad was in the intelligent agency.. and they were playing with time travel... skipping time. secret experiments. He sent the kid to the moon..because they could only skip time, a tiny bit... the kid said he went to the moon, and he was a teenager... guess who he met there. Barry.. Obama.. ok all fun.. but you have heard of the  Philadelphia experiment.. hey? I believe that? do you? they shouldn't mess with these things but they do.

sootedupCyndi » 30 Jun 2021, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 1:06 pm

It's kind of like a complicated thing.. don't lose it.. because it goes away for ever..
 But I heard a fascinating story... I don't think I believe it.. but there was this guy.... his dad was in the intelligent agency.. and they were playing with time travel... skipping time. secret experiments. He sent the kid to the moon..because they could only skip time, a tiny bit... the kid said he went to the moon, and he was a teenager... guess who he met there. Barry.. Obama.. ok all fun.. but you have heard of the  Philadelphia experiment.. hey? I believe that? do you? they shouldn't mess with these things but they do.

There was a time when I thought we shouldn't mess with this thing or that thing.

I'm not so sure of that viewpoint.

I'm not educated enough to know.
Most of us aren't about much of anything.

A wise man knows how much he doesn't know.

Philadelphia Experiment is a made up story in my view.
Lots of myth built around something weird that happened. What exactly happened?

Like asking the question "Do you believe in UFO's?"
That's how dumb **** gets started.
Do I believe people saw something in the air and couldn't tell what it was?
Of course I believe that. Context is important.

I've seen things in a ditch I couldn't identify.  

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm

You are sort of missing my point.

If you leave Pt A and reach Pt B instantaneously (wherever that ends up; good luck), ANY time you spend at that location is allowing Pt A to slip away at a high rate of speed. You return to your original "place" Pt A 24 of your hours later and it's gone.

Like I said, magic or some fierce mathematics.

Even Stargate had a device to suck them back to a planet. It wasn't a random shot of luck.
But they still had to use chevrons as a code to establish data points (galaxies which all have moved independently of each other)...
A giant hole in the theory.

I still liked the movie though. 

I see what you mean... but you always need to take that into account when travelling through space... when NASA sends a robot to Mars they don't send it to where Mars is... they send it to the point where Mars will be at the time it arrives... a spaceship with warp drive would work the same way..

Stargate was great...real ancient aliens.. and they are evil...

 


 

sootedupCyndi » 30 Jun 2021, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2021, 12:37 pm

Oh dear gawd..Your over my head.. I had Einstein' s  theory of relativity.. Once for a week.. then it took a turn and went outta my head.. LOL to be forever lost... it must have traveled away in light years... i'm serious.

lol... I know what you mean... I have this book by Stephen Hawking in which he explains it in simple language... you read that and think.. I can follow that... I can follow that.. and then... wait, what?... there once was moment I got it all.. but a moment later it was gone...

 

Jantje_Smit » 01 Jul 2021, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

01 Jul 2021, 9:57 am

lol... I know what you mean... I have this book by Stephen Hawking in which he explains it in simple language... you read that and think.. I can follow that... I can follow that.. and then... wait, what?... there once was moment I got it all.. but a moment later it was gone...

yes. That's what happened to me with the theory of relativity.   

Jantje_Smit » 01 Jul 2021, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

01 Jul 2021, 7:53 am

I see what you mean... but you always need to take that into account when travelling through space... when NASA sends a robot to Mars they don't send it to where Mars is... they send it to the point where Mars will be at the time it arrives... a spaceship with warp drive would work the same way..

Stargate was great...real ancient aliens.. and they are evil...

 

Maybe...
But you say it is instantaneous.
So, with no time lag at all, the traveler has to know where the destination point in space is at this moment from light years away.
And with no static reference points, it would have to be magic...  There no feedback that is fast enough to be instant.
Even light isn't that fast.

Here's another speculation: Is there something faster than light? Maybe gravity is.
There is no way to test that though. You can't pop a planet into existence...   

DeezerShoove » 01 Jul 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

01 Jul 2021, 11:49 am

Maybe...
But you say it is instantaneous.
So, with no time lag at all, the traveler has to know where the destination point in space is at this moment from light years away.
And with no static reference points, it would have to be magic...  There no feedback that is fast enough to be instant.
Even light isn't that fast.

Here's another speculation: Is there something faster than light? Maybe gravity is.
There is no way to test that though. You can't pop a planet into existence... 

I didn't say a warp drive is instantaneous... it's a way to get around Einstein's speed limit.. travel to other stars in less time then it takes light to travel that same distance through space.. you wouldn't travel through space but you would move space itself..

And gravity moves at the speed of light... that was proven when they detected gravitational waves and light from two colliding black holes.. or neutron stars at the same time... the History channel has a series about that serious kind of stuff too... besides ancient aliens.. lol.. it's fascinating stuff..also about the big bang and the expansion of the universe... there are galaxies that are moving away from us faster than the speed of light.. well, not the galaxies themselves but the space between us and those galaxies is expanding faster than the speed of light..

 
 
 

Damn, that was yesterday...

Happy World UFO Day! Mysterious Objects Captured on Camera

On 2 July each year, people all across the globe mark World UFO Day. The date was chosen to commemorate one of the most memorable events in Ufology – the 1947 Roswell incident – as many people continue to believe that an alien ship crashed on our planet. However, it turned out to be a nuclear test surveillance balloon.

Meanwhile, the US government issued a report on UFOs last week, saying defence and intelligence analysts still lack sufficient data to determine the nature of several UFOs observed by American military pilots, including whether they are advanced earthly technologies, atmospherics, or of extraterrestrial origin. The report says numerous sightings remain unexplained. 

Thousands of people claim to have witnessed UFOs – there are also scores of photos and videos showing strange objects, but none have been confirmed as anything extraterrestrial. 

Check out Sputnik's gallery to find out whether the truth is out there. 

 

However, that's just the cover up story....

Check out the pictures at the link though... some of them must be fakes but others make you wonder... this is near an airport.. compare that to the plane on the left...


 
 

The evidence of encounters with UFOs is mounting, uncontestable and, thank goodness, being taken seriously for the first time

...Did these new revelations bring about a significant change of opinion by some of the celebrity scientists? Yes and no.

In September 2019, the celebrated physicist, author and TV personality Michio Kaku spoke at a UFO conference in Barcelona, Spain.

On the subject of the US Navy revelations, he said: “We now know they fly between Mach 5 and Mach 20 — five to 20 times the speed of sound. We know they zigzag so fast that any pilot would be crushed by centrifugal force. That they have no exhaust that we can see.” 

The explanations usually invoked for UFO sightings — meteors, weather balloons, even the planet Venus — can’t explain these live-action high-precision shots, said Kaku, leading to either of two possible conclusions: They are of human origin, representing a technology so cutting-edge that even leading scientists are puzzled by it. Or, he said, “maybe they are evidence of an advanced outer-space civilization.”

“We’ve reached a turning point,” Kaku concluded. “It used to be that believers had to prove that these objects were from an intelligent race in outer space. Now the burden of proof is on the government to prove they’re not from intelligent beings in outer space.”The possibility that they were vehicles from other planetary civilizations, Kaku predicted, “has to be put on the table.”

 

I've seen Michio Kaku on tv... he's cool... but he's also a smart guy who knows what he's talking about....

It's fun to speculate about aliens and UFO's but it could really be true...


 
 

I have been waiting for some new UFO articles to show so I could bump this thread... but there has been nothing for weeks...which is kind of 'newsworthy' in itself... a while ago there were all these stories about UFO's and aliens everywhere... and now total silence ... why... nothing about the space force too anymore.... makes one wonder....

 


 

 

This should be fun... we don't get Fox over here but I'll watch it on youtube later... Michio Kaku is a fun guy, I love to hear him talk about UFOs...

 

Tucker Carlson Will Detail Pentagon UFO Intel in New TV Special

Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson will present the most sensational UFO evidence from the Pentagon's flying saucer files in a new TV special.

Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku will join the provocative conservative current affairs host on his Tucker Carlson Originals show on August 19.

The US Department of Defence released its files on UFO sightings by air force pilots and other servicemen earlier this year, following decades of conspiracy that crashed alien space-ships and their extra-terrestrial occupants had been concealed at the secretive Nevada Test and Training Range — known as 'Area 51'.

"Oh, UFOs, they’re spooky and kinda funny," the host writes. "Crazy people believe in them. Up until you get to the line, ‘The Pentagon admits it doesn’t know what in the world this is.’ That’s all you need to know. From a national security perspective, that’s a very big problem."


 
 
 

Jantje_Smit » 18 Aug 2021, 12:43 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2021, 12:43 am

This should be fun... we don't get Fox over here but I'll watch it on youtube later... Michio Kaku is a fun guy, I love to hear him talk about UFOs...

 

Tucker Carlson Will Detail Pentagon UFO Intel in New TV Special

Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson will present the most sensational UFO evidence from the Pentagon's flying saucer files in a new TV special.

Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku will join the provocative conservative current affairs host on his Tucker Carlson Originals show on August 19.

The US Department of Defence released its files on UFO sightings by air force pilots and other servicemen earlier this year, following decades of conspiracy that crashed alien space-ships and their extra-terrestrial occupants had been concealed at the secretive Nevada Test and Training Range — known as 'Area 51'.

"Oh, UFOs, they’re spooky and kinda funny," the host writes. "Crazy people believe in them. Up until you get to the line, ‘The Pentagon admits it doesn’t know what in the world this is.’ That’s all you need to know. From a national security perspective, that’s a very big problem."

I'll watch that later too. I heard something about it on fox. 

sootedupCyndi » 18 Aug 2021, 3:34 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2021, 3:34 am

I'll watch that later too. I heard something about it on fox.

It's today, I'll see if I can find it on youtube tomorrow... just for fun, I was googling for UFOs and I saw these... I had a t-shrit with the bottom one on it years ago...  lol...

 


 

Jantje_Smit » 19 Aug 2021, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

19 Aug 2021, 10:04 am

It's today, I'll see if I can find it on youtube tomorrow... just for fun, I was googling for UFOs and I saw these... I had a t-shrit with the bottom one on it years ago...  lol...

 


 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEwvvzJISQ

sootedupCyndi » 20 Aug 2021, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2021, 8:45 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEwvvzJISQ

I watched that video.... fascinating stuff... the moon could be hollow....and it wasn't always there... aliens... ancient aliens...

And it changes colour too....

 


 
 

sootedupCyndi » 22 Jun 2021, 2:28 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2021, 2:28 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoiGr03ZZvU
Insider dissects aliens or clone parts in secret underground base at Los Almos **Very fascinating,  and believable?***

I don't doubt Mr. Smith, but I can tell you Wilcock is a 'sensationalist' , as I have read his books.
He's of the  David Icke "Lizard people' wack jobs!

 
 

nuckinfutz » 21 Aug 2021, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2021, 2:55 pm

I don't doubt Mr. Smith, but I can tell you Wilcock is a 'sensationalist' , as I have read his books.
He's of the  David Icke "Lizard people' wack jobs!

yea yea .. this dude is ONE I believe.. smith...  icke? don't know...maybe not...
but you may laugh and god bless you..because I KNOW.  i have no clue why they picked me out.. but they did.. laugh if you want..  go ahead.. but when they are standing in front of me. In MY living room.. come back..go ahead call me crazy..