Aliens and UFO thread.
By sooted up Cyndi
22 Jun 2021 2:19 am in The Water Cooler Chat Room
13 Jun 2023 4:21 pm
Now, that is perhaps the most interesting thing I've read all week.sootedupCyndi » 13 Jun 2023, 3:24 pm » wrote: ↑ ok with last two first? This has been going on since i was a kid. Probably every ten years- 50 years or so...
I know what they think'... They don't think like us!
I never found them to be evil in any way- They are naive... innocent- They don't understand human emotions. They may be advanced on technology... but they are very sweet. They really don't to upset humans...
the last visit was 2008.
two in living room- One was really tall and thin- the other was a fat stout alien. They were standing there in front of the chair in the living room
.they communicate telepathic-
At the time i was taking care of my dying father in the bedroom.. they stood there... and thru mental telepathy - felt the need to inform me this...
"The specimen down the hallway- hasn't got long.
LOLOLOLOL
thank you i said- dick tracy?
they don't get anything..
13 Jun 2023 10:52 pm
Nostradamus'omh » 13 Jun 2023, 4:30 am » wrote: ↑ What changes between know it all about things believed and all there is to understand what each brain knew since conceived? It is just one thing everyone typecast in reality won't admit is possible, by choices made, promises kept, and realities served cradle to grave by each reproduction alive here now.
The will of the people, not accepting their genetic time adapting to the moment here living in series parallel sequence of arrival as ancestrally timed apart here.
Distance between spontaneously alive and simultaneously living one at a time, now. Specific gravity of the situation conceived to replace one's own previous 4 generation gaps living here ancestry.
Accountability by the numbers not statistically averaged to create false facts due to incomplete information justifying people ignoring life in real time.
Evolving is Karma to those worshipping a reality over adapting to space mutually timed ancestrally apart now.
Nostradamus foretold, oh so grand,
In gobbledegook words he did brand,
His prophecies profound,
Yet no one could expound,
For understanding slipped through their hand.
14 Jun 2023 12:32 am
That's a Nostradamus in your avatar? right.Prospero » 13 Jun 2023, 10:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Nostradamus foretold, oh so grand,
In gobbledegook words he did brand,
His prophecies profound,
Yet no one could expound,
For understanding slipped through their hand.
15 Jun 2023 4:23 am
I don't know, he could be making it up but when you see that at the end... it looks.. alien...Jantje_Smit » 10 Jun 2023, 6:21 am » wrote: ↑ It really comes in waves..
https://youtu.be/MHfQAWTiapY
https://youtu.be/yStYd4D7A-0
15 Jun 2023 7:56 am
When your body is evolving like nobody else spontaneously here since conceived and one's brain has to constant navigate around everyone alive and every conflicting narrative governing tomorrows today, it isn't that difficult to navigate beyond deniers never accepting the core of how they exist in the first place.Prospero » 13 Jun 2023, 10:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Nostradamus foretold, oh so grand,
In gobbledegook words he did brand,
His prophecies profound,
Yet no one could expound,
For understanding slipped through their hand.
Space time continuum is a series parallel time of existing here in plain sight. That "Self Evident" clause that give teeth to the idea of Karma delivers 10 fold to those destroying life not complying to an intellectual reality when equally created at occupying time now as a replacement of one's previous 4 generation gaps living forward here.
Everything is uniquely different in same situation all the time. Intellect corrupts, not corrects.
15 Jun 2023 8:10 am
Stop masturbating, Margaret.Prospero » 13 Jun 2023, 10:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Nostradamus foretold, oh so grand,
In gobbledegook words he did brand,
His prophecies profound,
Yet no one could expound,
For understanding slipped through their hand.
17 Jun 2023 4:06 am
Meanwhile in other conspiracies...
Wait…are they REALLY going to do a UFO psy-op?
Late last week it was widely reported that the United States government had recovered an intact alien spacecraft from a crash site.
The supposed revelation comes from one David Grusch, a “former” military intelligence agent, who turned “whistleblower” and told the press that this supposed craft “distorted time and space”, was “bigger on the inside than the outside” and made some rescue workers ill.
Just today, he added more to the story, claiming the Vatican has known about this since WWII, and they helped Mussolini retrieve a downed UFO.
Now, assuming none of this is true, it’s not an especially noteworthy incident in and of itself. After all fringe figures coming forward claiming to be “whistleblowers” does happen, and they often tell ludicrous stories with no supporting evidence.
These can occur organically or be staged by agencies of the state, and either way the press is always happy to give them air because a) they are distracting and b) they discredit real “conspiracy theories” by association.
But that’s not what appears to be going on here....
It is strange, the standard conspiracy theory ever since Rosswell is that the government is covering up the truth about Ufo's and aliens.. but now they are pushing stories about them.. why???... maybe they are pushing fake stories to make it look ridiculous so the real stories won't be taken seriously.... but why now, there are plenty of other hoaxes going on to keep people occupied.. why distract people from the climate change apocalypse and oppressed trannies?
Wait…are they REALLY going to do a UFO psy-op?
Late last week it was widely reported that the United States government had recovered an intact alien spacecraft from a crash site.
The supposed revelation comes from one David Grusch, a “former” military intelligence agent, who turned “whistleblower” and told the press that this supposed craft “distorted time and space”, was “bigger on the inside than the outside” and made some rescue workers ill.
Just today, he added more to the story, claiming the Vatican has known about this since WWII, and they helped Mussolini retrieve a downed UFO.
Now, assuming none of this is true, it’s not an especially noteworthy incident in and of itself. After all fringe figures coming forward claiming to be “whistleblowers” does happen, and they often tell ludicrous stories with no supporting evidence.
These can occur organically or be staged by agencies of the state, and either way the press is always happy to give them air because a) they are distracting and b) they discredit real “conspiracy theories” by association.
But that’s not what appears to be going on here....
It is strange, the standard conspiracy theory ever since Rosswell is that the government is covering up the truth about Ufo's and aliens.. but now they are pushing stories about them.. why???... maybe they are pushing fake stories to make it look ridiculous so the real stories won't be taken seriously.... but why now, there are plenty of other hoaxes going on to keep people occupied.. why distract people from the climate change apocalypse and oppressed trannies?
28 Jun 2023 4:00 pm
Why would a bunch of government wonks care if we have proof of alien visitation? Seriously, if it was between knowing if aliens visited this planet or getting a killer stock tip that would make me a bunch of money, I'd go for the latter.Jantje_Smit » 17 Jun 2023, 4:06 am » wrote: ↑ Meanwhile in other conspiracies...
Wait…are they REALLY going to do a UFO psy-op?
Late last week it was widely reported that the United States government had recovered an intact alien spacecraft from a crash site.
The supposed revelation comes from one David Grusch, a “former” military intelligence agent, who turned “whistleblower” and told the press that this supposed craft “distorted time and space”, was “bigger on the inside than the outside” and made some rescue workers ill.
Just today, he added more to the story, claiming the Vatican has known about this since WWII, and they helped Mussolini retrieve a downed UFO.
Now, assuming none of this is true, it’s not an especially noteworthy incident in and of itself. After all fringe figures coming forward claiming to be “whistleblowers” does happen, and they often tell ludicrous stories with no supporting evidence.
These can occur organically or be staged by agencies of the state, and either way the press is always happy to give them air because a) they are distracting and b) they discredit real “conspiracy theories” by association.
But that’s not what appears to be going on here....
It is strange, the standard conspiracy theory ever since Rosswell is that the government is covering up the truth about Ufo's and aliens.. but now they are pushing stories about them.. why???... maybe they are pushing fake stories to make it look ridiculous so the real stories won't be taken seriously.... but why now, there are plenty of other hoaxes going on to keep people occupied.. why distract people from the climate change apocalypse and oppressed trannies?
28 Jun 2023 6:35 pm
I saved the Princess once. That feat in itself might give me reason to believe aliens can travel the speed of light.Skans » 05 Jun 2023, 3:30 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't believe that even near-light-speed travel is possible, let alone FTLS travel. At least, not for anyone physically residing on any planet out there. The energy that it would take to accomplish this is beyond comprehension. And, I don't think Earth is a fart-hair interesting enough for an alien species to invest huge resources getting here, just to sit back and observe.
Here's the deal - NONE OF YOU have any real understanding of just how far it is from Earth to Proxima Centauri. Perhaps a being that exists in a higher dimension than our 3 spacial dimensions can transgress the laws of physics as we 3D beings understand them. It's like pondering on whether Princess Zelda could ever leave her 1992 Nintendo game cartridge. No, she can't. And, no aliens can't travel near light speed.
29 Jun 2023 6:12 am
You would rather make a bunch of money than knowing the truth about the alien coverup... seriously?Skans » 28 Jun 2023, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Why would a bunch of government wonks care if we have proof of alien visitation? Seriously, if it was between knowing if aliens visited this planet or getting a killer stock tip that would make me a bunch of money, I'd go for the latter.
I wonder what aliens landing on the white house lawn would do to the stock market... nothing good I guess...
29 Jun 2023 7:09 am
Because, I already know they haven't been here. If aliens actually visited Earth, we would have way more proof of that. Here's why:Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2023, 6:12 am » wrote: ↑ You would rather make a bunch of money than knowing the truth about the alien coverup... seriously?
I wonder what aliens landing on the white house lawn would do to the stock market... nothing good I guess...
- There would be no reason or need for them to hide from us. Why? Mainly because they wouldn't care enough about our internal reactions to hide. Nor would they care what 195 country "leaders" want from them. Our own government would be powerless to keep their arrival secret.
- There would be way more photos of the Aliens. Where cameras are literally everywhere, they couldn't avoid detection.
- Again, the energy it would take just to get here is astronomically ridiculous.
- There are too many amateur astronomers out there to not see alien craft all the time.
- We would have good quality, detailed photos of the outside and inside of any such craft.
- It makes no sense to come "visit" a planet before making some kind of communicative contact and then, sending investigative probes.
- Think about it, would we use a huge amount of energy from our sun just to go watch a bunch of chimps running around on an alien planet? F- No!
29 Jun 2023 7:22 am
Universal constant can be intellectually ignored by every generation forward, but the consequences doing so are self evident in a species destroying itself inside out each generation gap continuing self deception cradle to grave.Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2023, 6:12 am » wrote: ↑ You would rather make a bunch of money than knowing the truth about the alien coverup... seriously?
I wonder what aliens landing on the white house lawn would do to the stock market... nothing good I guess...
Is that the movie playing Slim Whitman made their heads explode? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y78dtSvzWc4
29 Jun 2023 7:55 am
The thing about aliens is that they are.. alien.. you can't ascribe human motivations to them, they don't think that way...Skans » 29 Jun 2023, 7:09 am » wrote: ↑ Because, I already know they haven't been here. If aliens actually visited Earth, we would have way more proof of that. Here's why:
- There would be no reason or need for them to hide from us. Why? Mainly because they wouldn't care enough about our internal reactions to hide. Nor would they care what 195 country "leaders" want from them. Our own government would be powerless to keep their arrival secret.
- There would be way more photos of the Aliens. Where cameras are literally everywhere, they couldn't avoid detection.
- Again, the energy it would take just to get here is astronomically ridiculous.
- There are too many amateur astronomers out there to not see alien craft all the time.
- We would have good quality, detailed photos of the outside and inside of any such craft.
- It makes no sense to come "visit" a planet before making some kind of communicative contact and then, sending investigative probes.
- Think about it, would we use a huge amount of energy from our sun just to go watch a bunch of chimps running around on an alien planet? F- No!
And who says they couldn't avoid detection if they didn't want to be seen, they can get here, we can't get there so by definition they will be more advanced than us, if their technology is hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us who knows what they can do... with our technology the energy would be a problem, for them it could be easy..
29 Jun 2023 8:44 am
I get what you're saying. But, I don't necessarily believe that technological advancement leads to being able to break the laws of physics.Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2023, 7:55 am » wrote: ↑ The thing about aliens is that they are.. alien.. you can't ascribe human motivations to them, they don't think that way...
And who says they couldn't avoid detection if they didn't want to be seen, they can get here, we can't get there so by definition they will be more advanced than us, if their technology is hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us who knows what they can do... with our technology the energy would be a problem, for them it could be easy..
Also, allow me to indulge in a reverse-scenario thought experiment for a moment:
- When we sent men to explore the moon, we didn't give one thought to being covert or stealthy about it. When we sent robotic rovers to Mars, again, we didn't give one thought to hiding our presence there. We've sent satellites to several moons in our solar system that could potentially have live on them, and we've done nothing to conceal this from any potential inhabitants.
- Furthermore, when we sent Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 flying out of our solar system, we placed things on it to make sure that an alien civilization would know that there is sentient life on Earth - nothing stealthy about that at all.
- If we had the physical ability to go visit Proxima B, do you think we would take measures to NOT engage with any intelligent alien civilization we find on that planet? Heck no! We'd be louder than cage full of chimps at feeding time. The fact that some individuals on the planet might have to change their beliefs due to our arrival wouldn't concern us in the least. We'd go in there with Chinese made trinkets for the leaders and sugary-sweet platitudes for the inhabitants.
- It just doesn't make sense that an Alien civilization would be so concerned about how our Churches and Stock Markets would be affected by their arrival to just say "Hi".
29 Jun 2023 9:19 am
What we think are the laws of physics you mean... Einstein was a genius but who knows, maybe another genius will come along and prove him wrong... it's called the theory of general relativity, not the fact...Skans » 29 Jun 2023, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑ I get what you're saying. But, I don't necessarily believe that technological advancement leads to being able to break the laws of physics.
That's the same thing, aliens don't have to think like we do... and I also think putting those things on Voyager was a big mistake, just like sending out messages announcing to the whole galaxy where we are....Also, allow me to indulge in a reverse-scenario thought experiment for a moment:The reverse, in my opinion, would also be true. There is no need, from an Alien Civilization's perspective, to hide from us and help our government engage in cover-ups. This is both irrational and absurd.
- When we sent men to explore the moon, we didn't give one thought to being covert or stealthy about it. When we sent robotic rovers to Mars, again, we didn't give one thought to hiding our presence there. We've sent satellites to several moons in our solar system that could potentially have live on them, and we've done nothing to conceal this from any potential inhabitants.
- Furthermore, when we sent Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 flying out of our solar system, we placed things on it to make sure that an alien civilization would know that there is sentient life on Earth - nothing stealthy about that at all.
- If we had the physical ability to go visit Proxima B, do you think we would take measures to NOT engage with any intelligent alien civilization we find on that planet? Heck no! We'd be louder than cage full of chimps at feeding time. The fact that some individuals on the planet might have to change their beliefs due to our arrival wouldn't concern us in the least. We'd go in there with Chinese made trinkets for the leaders and sugary-sweet platitudes for the inhabitants.
- It just doesn't make sense that an Alien civilization would be so concerned about how our Churches and Stock Markets would be affected by their arrival to just say "Hi".
But as for it not making sense for aliens to hide their presence.. I like science fiction movies, Star Trek has the prime directive, when they meet primitive aliens they are not allowed to **** up their society by announcing their presence so they go undercover.. aliens could have something like that..
Or maybe they don't want to be seen for other reasons...
29 Jun 2023 9:48 am
I knew that you would quote me the "prime directive". Star Trek is the only sci-fi series to have a prime-directive. While it makes for good fiction writing, it doesn't make for good fact. most any alien civilization that doesn't immediately destroy us, and that thinks to come all the way to Earth for science and exploration, is going to have the attitude "Don't be such snowflakes - yeah, we're here, we're not going to harm you, just deal with it".Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2023, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑ What we think are the laws of physics you mean... Einstein was a genius but who knows, maybe another genius will come along and prove him wrong... it's called the theory of general relativity, not the fact...
That's the same thing, aliens don't have to think like we do... and I also think putting those things on Voyager was a big mistake, just like sending out messages announcing to the whole galaxy where we are....
But as for it not making sense for aliens to hide their presence.. I like science fiction movies, Star Trek has the prime directive, when they meet primitive aliens they are not allowed to **** up their society by announcing their presence so they go undercover.. aliens could have something like that..
Or maybe they don't want to be seen for other reasons...
29 Jun 2023 10:09 am
lol... you keep trying to put human thoughts in the minds of aliens, it doesn't work that way, it's fun to speculate but no one knows what their motivations are..Skans » 29 Jun 2023, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑ I knew that you would quote me the "prime directive". Star Trek is the only sci-fi series to have a prime-directive. While it makes for good fiction writing, it doesn't make for good fact. most any alien civilization that doesn't immediately destroy us, and that thinks to come all the way to Earth for science and exploration, is going to have the attitude "Don't be such snowflakes - yeah, we're here, we're not going to harm you, just deal with it".
But if it makes you happy, I always thought that the prime directive was ****, you only have to look at human history, when the Spanish discovered the new world, screw the prime directive, we want the gold.. lol.. aliens could be nice but I don't think so..
29 Jun 2023 10:36 am
Dreads?Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2023, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑ What we think are the laws of physics you mean... Einstein was a genius but who knows, maybe another genius will come along and prove him wrong... it's called the theory of general relativity, not the fact...
That's the same thing, aliens don't have to think like we do... and I also think putting those things on Voyager was a big mistake, just like sending out messages announcing to the whole galaxy where we are....
But as for it not making sense for aliens to hide their presence.. I like science fiction movies, Star Trek has the prime directive, when they meet primitive aliens they are not allowed to **** up their society by announcing their presence so they go undercover.. aliens could have something like that..
Or maybe they don't want to be seen for other reasons...
That alien has been hanging with the brothers in Englewood!
29 Jun 2023 10:58 am
Certainly, never in the history of Humanity, did the more technologically advance culture give a **** what its impact would be on the more primitive cultures it came in contact with. As, you pointed out above. So, there is no logical basis for us to believe that a more technologically advanced culture would be so skittish of interacting with humans directly, just because it might upset a few of us for a couple of minutes.Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2023, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑ lol... you keep trying to put human thoughts in the minds of aliens, it doesn't work that way, it's fun to speculate but no one knows what their motivations are..
But if it makes you happy, I always thought that the prime directive was ****, you only have to look at human history, when the Spanish discovered the new world, screw the prime directive, we want the gold.. lol.. aliens could be nice but I don't think so..
Quite the contrary, in fact. I would expect Aliens to throw candy-skittles and shiny things at us to watch us beat the **** out of each other to grab our share.
29 Jun 2023 11:08 am
i see you did a photo shoot in Englewood!Skans » 29 Jun 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑ Certainly, never in the history of Humanity, did the more technologically advance culture give a **** what its impact would be on the more primitive cultures it came in contact with. As, you pointed out above. So, there is no logical basis for us to believe that a more technologically advanced culture would be so skittish of interacting with humans directly, just because it might upset a few of us for a couple of minutes.
Quite the contrary, in fact. I would expect Aliens to throw candy-skittles and shiny things at us to watch us beat the **** out of each other to grab our share.
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