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If this is true, these doctors need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they aren't human beings. They aren't test subjects like rats. The inmates are claiming they were told they were vitamins and antibiotics. Whereas , the medical staff said they knew what they were taking. Hopefully the investigation will exhume the truth. 

An Arkansas doctor under investigation for prescribing an anti-parasite drug called ivermectin to jail detainees with COVID-19, even though federal health officials specifically warn against it, has said that those patients took the drug willingly. But several inmates at the Washington County jail say that is not the case — that they were given the pills with no indication of what they really were.CBS News spoke with 29-year-old Edrick Floreal-Wooten over a video call from the jail on Friday. After testing positive for COVID-19 in August, he said he and other inmates went to "pill call" and were given several pills with the explanation that it would help them "get better." He said he and others asked repeatedly what the pills were. "They said they were vitamins, steroids and antibiotics," Floreal-Wooten told CBS News. "We were running fevers, throwing up, diarrhea ... and so we figured that they were here to help us. ... We never knew that they were running experiments on us, giving us ivermectin. We never knew that."Ivermectin is only approved by the Food and Drug Administration for human use to treat parasites, and in some cases, head lice and rosacea. It is not an anti-viral, and the FDA has repeatedly warned against using it to treat or prevent COVID-19. But misinformation promoting the drug on social media has fueled its use. Large doses of the drug can be "dangerous and can cause serious harm," the agency has said. Overdose symptoms may include diarrhea, dizziness and nausea, among other things.  

"They said they were vitamins": Jail inmates unknowingly got ivermectin (msn.com)

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am

If this is true, these doctors need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they aren't human beings. They aren't test subjects like rats. The inmates are claiming they were told they were vitamins and antibiotics. Whereas , the medical staff said they knew what they were taking. Hopefully the investigation will exhume the truth. 

"They said they were vitamins": Jail inmates unknowingly got ivermectin (msn.com)

Clearly this is Biden's fault...
 

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am

If this is true, these doctors need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they aren't human beings. They aren't test subjects like rats. The inmates are claiming they were told they were vitamins and antibiotics. Whereas , the medical staff said they knew what they were taking. Hopefully the investigation will exhume the truth. 

"They said they were vitamins": Jail inmates unknowingly got ivermectin (msn.com)

This should be investigated if what they say is true people should go go JAIL over it
 

solon » 04 Sep 2021, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:56 am

This should be investigated if what they say is true people should go go JAIL over it

I agree. 

Blackvegetable » 04 Sep 2021, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:55 am

Clearly this is Biden's fault...

I thought you would blame Trump....or me.
 

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:57 am

I thought you would blame Trump....or me.

Biden has been breeding Vaccine skepticism and his promotion of quack cures is clearly infecting his cultists..

Blackvegetable » 04 Sep 2021, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 12:21 pm

Biden has been breeding Vaccine skepticism and his promotion of quack cures is clearly infecting his cultists..

LOL! Look whose name you used. And no, I didn't edit it. Moron. 

Harmless.
The steriods were probably worse, but that was ok?

If it was cocaine nobody would have said a **** thing.
 

DeezerShoove » 04 Sep 2021, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 4:51 pm

Harmless.
The steriods were probably worse, but that was ok?

If it was cocaine nobody would have said a **** thing.

They were told they were steroids, and they agreed to them. They knew it ahead of time. However, they were told they were getting one thing, and then they were slipped something else instead. 

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 8:22 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 8:22 pm

They were told they were steroids, and they agreed to them. They knew it ahead of time. However, they were told they were getting one thing, and then they were slipped something else instead.

They're being told they're getting proper nutrition too, I'll bet.  

DeezerShoove » 04 Sep 2021, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 4:51 pm

Harmless.
The steriods were probably worse, but that was ok?

If it was cocaine nobody would have said a **** thing.

Are you saying it was OK?

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am

If this is true, these doctors need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they aren't human beings. They aren't test subjects like rats. The inmates are claiming they were told they were vitamins and antibiotics. Whereas , the medical staff said they knew what they were taking. Hopefully the investigation will exhume the truth. 

"They said they were vitamins": Jail inmates unknowingly got ivermectin (msn.com)

Did the truth die?
 

Ivermectin has been approved for human use for decades. Just because the media has declared war on anything not being promoted by big pharma doesn't discount the legitimate use in humans. I really don't mind testing approved drugs on inmates.

Pengwin » 05 Sep 2021, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2021, 3:57 pm

One, not approved for Covid-19, two, you have to ask their permission.

Until last month there was no officially approved treatment for Rona. Ivermectin has shown mixed results in clinical trials. Personally I don't see value in it but loading up with nutracuticals makes sense. 
 

Pengwin » 05 Sep 2021, 4:06 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2021, 4:06 pm

It's a **** horse-dewormer.  Why is God's name would you think that would effective on a virus?

You people will believe any **** fed to you as long as it reinforces your paranoia...

It's an anti parasitic. It wouldn't do anything to a virus but could lessen bacterial pneumonia that often kills Rona patients. 
 

Pengwin » 05 Sep 2021, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2021, 4:11 pm

Bacteria and viruses aren't **** PARASITES.

Look it up, *******.

*******??  you are the idiot mindlessly parroting the horse dewormer soundbite. "Put water on plants? You mean like from the toilet?" Idiocracy level stupidity is being pushed by the Fauci followers. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29468054/Abstract

Background: Ivermectin is an endectocide against many parasites. Though being a macrocyclic lactone, its activity against bacteria has been less known, possibly due to the fact that micromolar concentrations at tissue levels are required to achieve a therapeutic effect. Among pathogenic bacteria of major medical significance, Staphylococcus aureus cause a number of diseases in a wide variety of hosts including humans and animals. It has been attributed as one of the most pathogenic organisms. The emergence of methicillin resistance has made the treatment of S. aureus even more difficult as it is now resistant to most of the available antibiotics. Thus, search for alternate anti-staphylococcal agents requires immediate attention.

Methods: Twenty-one clinical isolates of S. aureus were isolated from bovine milk collected from Lahore and Faisalabad Pakistan. Different anthelmintics including levamisole, albendazole and ivermectin were tested against S. aureus to determine their minimum inhibitory concentrations. This was followed-up by growth curve analysis, spot assay and time-kill kinetics.

Results: The results showed that ivermectin but not levamisole or albendazole exhibited a potent anti-staphylococcal activity at the concentrations of 6.25 and 12.5 μg/ml against two isolates. Interestingly, one of the isolate was sensitive while the other was resistant to methicillin/cefoxitin.

Conclusions: Our novel findings indicate that ivermectin has an anti-bacterial effect against certain S. aureus isolates. However, to comprehend why ivermectin did not inhibit the growth of all Staphylococci needs further investigation. Nevertheless, we have extended the broad range of known pharmacological effects of ivermectin. As pharmacology and toxicology of ivermectin are well known, its further development as an anti-staphylococcal agent is potentially appealing
 
 
 

Pengwin » 05 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm

What is a parasite?

What is a bacteria?

And what is a virus?

Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites, which by definition contain either a RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective, virus-coded protein coat. Viruses may be viewed as mobile genetic elements, most probably of cellular origin and characterized by a long co-evolution of virus and host.

Many bacteria are parasitic, though they are more generally thought of as pathogens causing disease.

Parasites are any organism or viron taking resources from a host to survive or procreate. 

 

Pengwin » 05 Sep 2021, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2021, 4:36 pm

Now we're getting somewhere.  I have a broken foot, I think I'll take a paste for horses for it.

And the vaccines were created so you didn't have to try something that wasn't made specifically to help protect you from the virus, but you dumbasses would rather take advice from Internet quacks who think car keys will stick to your forward if you get the vaccine.

You asked how a broad spectrum anti parasitic, antibiotic would help against a virus. The answer is it won't directly kill the virus but does reduce secondary infections that usually result in death with Rona. Calling it horse dewormer is disingenuous and more than a tad idiotic. 


https://youtu.be/-YZnORoAWkA

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am

If this is true, these doctors need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they aren't human beings. They aren't test subjects like rats. The inmates are claiming they were told they were vitamins and antibiotics. Whereas , the medical staff said they knew what they were taking. Hopefully the investigation will exhume the truth. 

"They said they were vitamins": Jail inmates unknowingly got ivermectin (msn.com)

Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs in the history of humanity. It's a known prophylaxis AND TREATMENT against the cov-19 virus. 

What is the matter with your mind, that you are angry at doctors for protecting inmates from a virus? Doctors are responsible to follow the SCIENCE - not bureaucratic directives. Google, "Hippocratic Oath" - and prepare to have your tiny mind blown open. 

So need to slap MSN's penis out of your mouth. They've got you thinking like a cult member.

https://files.catbox.moe/akn276.MP4
 

solon » 04 Sep 2021, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:56 am

This should be investigated if what they say is true people should go go JAIL over it

Jailing doctors for following the science instead of listening to wall street captive bureaucrats is precisely what a sick covid cult-rat like you or a sick covid cult-rat like vegas would call for.