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Vegas » 07 Aug 2022, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2022, 6:17 pm

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2022, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2022, 5:52 pm

Ivermectin is one of THREE DRUGS KNOWN TO MAN to be declared a "WONDER DRUG" by the world health organization for its profound safety record and its multiplicity of off-label uses. 

It kills covid in vitro and is proven safe in vivo. 

Get your dick out of your mouth - hurry. 

For the record, the other two are aspirin and penicillin.

The OP isn't about the drug itself, it's about the docs not being transparent about what they were giving the inmates. They told them they were taking vitamins. 

Now take away my reddie , since you **** up in understanding what the OP was about.

The doctors didn’t tell the patients that.  If the inmates were told that, it was by the nurse that does pill call.

Either way, inmates have the right to refuse medication.

Vegas » 07 Aug 2022, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2022, 7:27 pm

This is about whether it is right to force treatment on people. Your logic is flawed. period. 

Ok fine. Let's assume all the researchers decided to use Ivermectin instead of the vaccines for the public. Sound good? Ok good. Now, do the docs or anyone in authority have a right to force you to take Ivermectin? 

Are you seeing the flaw in your argument yet?

You are whining about prisoners being given a safe and widely used anti parasitic drug that likely saved many because they weren't fully informed about the nature of the treatment. They were free to refuse and under no risk if they didn't. Contrast that with people being threatened with job loss and inability to freely associate if they didn't participate in the largest test drug study ever conducted in the history of mankind. Free citizens losing their constitutional rights is a far bigger issue than this fart in a prison shower. 
 
 

Neo » 08 Aug 2022, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2022, 8:01 am

You are whining about prisoners being given a safe and widely used anti parasitic drug that likely saved many because they weren't fully informed about the nature of the treatment. They were free to refuse and under no risk if they didn't. Contrast that with people being threatened with job loss and inability to freely associate if they didn't participate in the largest test drug study ever conducted in the history of mankind. Free citizens losing their constitutional rights is a far bigger issue than this fart in a prison shower.

Another dickhead missing the point. ^^^

Vegas » 09 Aug 2022, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2022, 9:47 am

Another dickhead missing the point. ^^^

Oh I get the point, i have been promoted to dickhead. I have no issues with a universally safe and effective drug like ivermectin being given to prisoners without their consent. Would cut down on other parasitic infections even if rona weren't a thing. Prisoners are usually less obese and in better condition than the outside population, bet rona didn't impact prisons much, ivermectin or not. 
 

Vegas » 04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2021, 11:49 am

If this is true, these doctors need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they aren't human beings. They aren't test subjects like rats. The inmates are claiming they were told they were vitamins and antibiotics. Whereas , the medical staff said they knew what they were taking. Hopefully the investigation will exhume the truth. 

"They said they were vitamins": Jail inmates unknowingly got ivermectin (msn.com)

Since the article indicates inmates were told, the complainers likely either forgot or are lying to try to extort some sort of compensation. Perhaps not the most trustworthy group to take their word for something. ".....patients took the drug willingly. But several inmates at the Washington County jail say that is not the case....."

"Rats" for being given one of the safest medications on the planet with a 30 year track record including being safer than Tylenol or Benadryl???

Looking at 30 year established ivermectin - one of the safest drugs on the planet - as experimental, I sure hope you aren't one of the volunteer lab rats for a criminal corporation's experiment - that continues to go so horribly wrong - in their trial of an investigational, experimental, genetically engineered, chemically enhanced, innate immune response reprogramming, leaky, escape mutant training, gene therapy!

Of the 798 COVID deaths in the last 8 weeks, all but 2 were vaccinated (NSW)

This is one of the most appallingly ignorance driven threads in this forum since Ivermectin has been used successfully to treat COVID-19 ever since April of 2020, even by entire hospital systems.

https://youtu.be/nzqnAIfEbv4

WHO Bulletin - Mass treatment with ivermectin underutilized public health strategy

As was done among the 230 million residents of Uttar Pradesh India for a COVID outbreak with stunning results: 230 million people, 310,783 cases April, cut 97.1% in June, just 22 cases August
So where has Big Pharma's trial of their highly profitable and liability free experiment taken folks?
Of the 798 COVID deaths in the last 8 weeks, all but 2 were vaccinated (NSW)

Compared to Dr. Brian Tyson and Dr. George Fareed's 100% successful early treatment of 7,000 COVID patients with only 4 hospitalizations, along with 3 people that died because they showed up too late for early treatment (they use HCQ+zinc+azithromycin, but IVM+zinc+doxycycline is nearly as effective).
Overcoming the COVID-19 Darkness: How Two Doctors Successfully Treated 7000 Patients
 

The 22 mechanisms of action of ivermectin against SARS-CoV2 virus.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z

Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

"The antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses

COVID-19

In a recent in vitro study, the Vero/hSLAM cells infected with the SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19 virus were exposed to 5 µM ivermectin in 48 h, and a 5000-fold reduction in viral RNA compared with control was found [15]. The results showed that treatment with ivermectin effectively kills almost all viral particles within 48 h. The study was the first to assess the antiviral effect of ivermectin on COVID-19. The authors acknowledged that the drug may have antiviral effects by inhibiting the importin (IMP) α/β receptor, which is responsible for transmitting viral proteins into the host cell nucleus. The authors proposed human studies to confirm the potential benefits of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19. Although this study was the first to confirm the antiviral effect of ivermectin on COVID-19 [15], other studies examined the antiviral effects of the drug on both RNA and DNA viruses, which are summarized in Table 1."

 "Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1."