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FOS » 08 Sep 2021, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:07 pm

less than the impact of lockdowns WITHIN the country, lol. wtf...you think we have no business in the US?

You're a **** moron.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 08 Sep 2021, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:11 pm

You're a **** moron.

well if our economy is entirely dependent on imports, perhaps we would be better off using the nazi concept of autarky. will make us less vulnerable to pandemics.

Blackvegetable » 08 Sep 2021, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:10 pm

Why do you believe Li'l Kimmie is willing to see his country starve rather than run the risk of a covid epidemic?

5.....4.....3.....

where do you think you live? you think there are no domestic farmers in the USA?

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm

That may be the stupidest thing you ever posted.  Lol

lol prove it. i am quite sure the internal lockdown had more economic impact than temporarily shutting down imports.

in fact we didnt get imports from china for a few months because of THEIR lockdown anyway

FOS » 08 Sep 2021, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:16 pm

where do you think you live? you think there are no domestic farmers in the USA?

How about first considering the question?

Blackvegetable » 08 Sep 2021, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:29 pm

How about first considering the question?

we wouldnt starve without imports. thats retarded

FOS » 08 Sep 2021, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:14 pm

well if our economy is entirely dependent on imports, perhaps we would be better off using the nazi concept of autarky. will make us less vulnerable to pandemics.

using the nazi concept of autarky.

It has a long losing tradition.

FOS » 08 Sep 2021, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:31 pm

we wouldnt starve without imports. thats retarded

You've spent much of your life heavily medicated, haven't you...

FOS » 08 Sep 2021, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:31 pm

we wouldnt starve without imports. thats retarded

These guys believe that we are totally helpless without multinationals.  They think that the U.S. is utterly unable to be self sufficient, despite the fact that we survived, and thrived for the first century of existence independently.  

they are so stupid, it’s surprising they remember to breathe.  And they project that **** onto others.
 

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 4:24 pm

I am quite sure you are an economic moron

you think that shutting down 90% of domestic businesses for months is less harmful to the economy than closing the border…

and someone else is the ignoramus?  Your a **** hoot.
 

These guys are so mentally enslaved to the multinational propaganda, they would literally believe the moon is made of cheese if they were suddenly targeted by ads for “moon cheese” on cable tv. As long as the company was operating in multiple countries, of course.

They would buy McDonalds moon cheese burgers on the strength of branding alone, even if the moon cheese tasted like garbage

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 5:35 pm

Yes.  If you shut down all commercial international trade in the US we collapse as a nation.  Duh

if that is true, then how did Japan thrive as a nation completely isolated from ALL international trade for centuries, idiot?

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 5:42 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 5:42 pm

This I have to hear.  Its priceless.  Please say it was when their culture was samurai based.  Lol

https://www.butterfield.com/get-inspire ... n-of-japan
While Sakoku, Japan’s long period of isolation from 1639 to 1853, kept it closed off from much of the world, one upshot was the rise of cultural touchstones that persist to this day. (Though admittedly, this knowledge would likely have done little to console the lower classes, who lived difficult lives.)A quintessential scene from the streets of JapanSo many of the things we still associate with Japan—such as haiku poetry, kabuki drama, wood-block prints, the tea ceremony, landscape gardening and the cultivation of bonsai trees—date to this period of Japan.

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 5:50 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 5:50 pm

So if we just go back to a pre industrial society we can do this.  That must be why so many do it today!!!!!!

Priceless

No, it was only possible pre industrial revolution.  See, life was actually EASIER before the invention of refrigerators, laundry machines, steam engines, the discovery of penicillin, etc…

now that we have modern luxuries, we couldn’t POSSIBLY SURVIVE as humans did in primitive isolation for centuries.

   
 

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 5:54 pm

I know moron.  This is why we cant close the borders.  We would become North Korea

Amish have 0 trade with multinationals.  No McDonalds, no shopping at Walmart, no smartphone, no laptop .. ZERO

2 questions..


1.  Are the Amish North Korean?

2.  How would it affect the Amish if the border was closed?

that is just one example… there are hundreds of self sustaining, simple farming communities in the U.S. that don’t give A **** if you think they would perish.. they would prove you wrong easily, and we would all be better off, so **** you and your weak brainwashed globalist horse ****.

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 5:59 pm

You want the richest most powerful nation on earth to become a amish community?

Keep going....this is **** priceless 
 
By the way the amish trade with outsiders all the time.  They make great furniture.   Lol

Amish don’t need your foreign made Chinese crap.  They don’t drive cars, they chop wood and build barns and literally do chores all day.  And within their communities there little to none of the things that plague the rest of us.. crime, abortions, drug abuse, overdose, obesity, ADHD, debilitating depression, medical bankruptcy, autism, suicides, pollution, declining life expectancy..

ALL the curses that you love have been rained on us from multinationals like Monsanto, McDonalds, Coca Cola, etc… the more we import foreign garbage at the ports and borders, the more these things destroy us.

so yeh, if we all lived like the Amish, that would be great.  If we all became Taliban, that might even be an improvement
 

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 6:08 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 6:08 pm

Good luck with that dude.

You are not going to get Americans to give up their 60 inch flat screens and their SUVs for a butter churn and a barn raising.  Lol

They would not have to, I was just making a point.

Every modern luxury could be made in the U.S. without any foreign products.  That is why I like Trump’s protectionist trade policies.

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 6:14 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 6:14 pm

No we cant.  Which is why no country does it.  Not even North Korea which is about as close as you would get to your goal

We moved from a manufacturing economy to a service economy.  I grew up in Flint Michigan.  I saw the decline of the auto plants in Flint and Detroit, thanks to the import of Japanese cars.  I saw the town I grew up in go from a vibrant community to a ghetto filled with unemployed bums and watched the Fischer body and GM plants turn into urban ruins, which me and my friends explored as kids.

I saw FIRSTHAND how the globalism you worship ruins Americans, your insistence that prosperity = dependence is Orwellian.

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 6:20 pm

Dude show me this modern paradise that has accomplished this today.  Show me where it is successful

You literally are describing north korea.....the hermit kingdom

or..idiot...he's describing the us 60 years ago

Vegasgiants » 08 Sep 2021, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2021, 6:20 pm

Dude show me this modern paradise that has accomplished this today.  Show me where it is successful

You literally are describing north korea.....the hermit kingdom

Thanks to you and your kind, there is no modern example, IF YOU CONSIDER MODERN TECHNOLOGY ESSENTIAL TO HAVING “PARADISE”

The Amish are luddites.  There are thousands of backward communities all over the world that do organic farming and refuse modern technology, and they are happy.  The unabomber had a point.