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In a speech as far back as April 11, 2014, President Barack Obama came right out and said what MOST of us knew to be true even BEFORE then. That voting rights are under a GOP attack.

Fact was the GOP has been attacking people's right to vote for sometime now, prior to the 2016 election, prior to the 2020 election, and continuing more in earnest now, even as we speak.

The conservative response is that the laws are necessary to address issues of "voter fraud" which in and of itself IS a FRAUDULENT ARGUMENT, created by the right in order to pass discriminatory legislation.

Nor is their attack upon the right to vote their ONLY attack upon civil rights.  Because the GOP has also LONG been busy curtailing the rights of CERTAIN others as well.

APPARENTLY, if you don't see the world through their narrow minded conservatively MYOPIC point of view, you don't DESERVE rights.

WE (liberals) should be screaming, "STOP THE STEAL!"
Texas Republicans Are Pulling Out All the Stops to Dilute the Voting Power of People of Color – Mother Jones
Republicans Kicking Democrats Out Of Polling Locations
McConnell denied that GOP voting changes were racist — but a NC law just got knocked down as discriminatory - Alternet.org
Madison Cawthorn talks of 'bloodshed' over future elections while pushing voting lies - CNNPolitics
QOSHE - Emails, text messages undercut claim Florida’s election overhaul wasn’t political - Gary Fineout
The far-right insanity in Colorado is a symptom of something much deeper -- Americans should be on red alert - Raw Story
 
 

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am

In a speech as far back as April 11, 2014, President Barack Obama came right out and said what MOST of us knew to be true even BEFORE then. That voting rights are under a GOP attack.

Fact was the GOP has been attacking people's right to vote for sometime now, prior to the 2016 election, prior to the 2020 election, and continuing more in earnest now, even as we speak.

The conservative response is that the laws are necessary to address issues of "voter fraud" which in and of itself IS a FRAUDULENT ARGUMENT, created by the right in order to pass discriminatory legislation.

Nor is their attack upon the right to vote their ONLY attack upon civil rights.  Because the GOP has also LONG been busy curtailing the rights of CERTAIN others as well.

APPARENTLY, if you don't see the world through their narrow minded conservatively MYOPIC point of view, you don't DESERVE rights.

WE (liberals) should be screaming, "STOP THE STEAL!"
Texas Republicans Are Pulling Out All the Stops to Dilute the Voting Power of People of Color – Mother Jones
Republicans Kicking Democrats Out Of Polling Locations
McConnell denied that GOP voting changes were racist — but a NC law just got knocked down as discriminatory - Alternet.org
Madison Cawthorn talks of 'bloodshed' over future elections while pushing voting lies - CNNPolitics
QOSHE - Emails, text messages undercut claim Florida’s election overhaul wasn’t political - Gary Fineout
The far-right insanity in Colorado is a symptom of something much deeper -- Americans should be on red alert - Raw Story

stop the mail in ballots
vote in person
show id.
that simple.
and none of this let the ballots come in for days..
 

sootedupCyndi » 05 Oct 2021, 2:56 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:56 am

stop the mail in ballots
vote in person
show id.
that simple.
and none of this let the ballots come in for days..

Republicans have been voting by mail-in or absentee ballots for decades. Why now? Oh, I forget. To stop that non-existing "voter fraud."

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am

In a speech as far back as April 11, 2014, President Barack Obama came right out and said what MOST of us knew to be true even BEFORE then. That voting rights are under a GOP attack.

Fact was the GOP has been attacking people's right to vote for sometime now, prior to the 2016 election, prior to the 2020 election, and continuing more in earnest now, even as we speak.

The conservative response is that the laws are necessary to address issues of "voter fraud" which in and of itself IS a FRAUDULENT ARGUMENT, created by the right in order to pass discriminatory legislation.

Nor is their attack upon the right to vote their ONLY attack upon civil rights.  Because the GOP has also LONG been busy curtailing the rights of CERTAIN others as well.

APPARENTLY, if you don't see the world through their narrow minded conservatively MYOPIC point of view, you don't DESERVE rights.

WE (liberals) should be screaming, "STOP THE STEAL!"
Texas Republicans Are Pulling Out All the Stops to Dilute the Voting Power of People of Color – Mother Jones
Republicans Kicking Democrats Out Of Polling Locations
McConnell denied that GOP voting changes were racist — but a NC law just got knocked down as discriminatory - Alternet.org
Madison Cawthorn talks of 'bloodshed' over future elections while pushing voting lies - CNNPolitics
QOSHE - Emails, text messages undercut claim Florida’s election overhaul wasn’t political - Gary Fineout
The far-right insanity in Colorado is a symptom of something much deeper -- Americans should be on red alert - Raw Story

Whaaaaaaa!!!!! We can’t commit mass illegal ballot harvesting and other voting fraud!!!! Whaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

sootedupCyndi » 05 Oct 2021, 2:56 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:56 am

stop the mail in ballots
vote in person
show id.
that simple.
and none of this let the ballots come in for days..

Well republicans should make that law in their states. Notice only republican states say there was voter fraud. 

It's that simple. 
 

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 3:17 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 3:17 am

Republicans have been voting by mail-in or absentee ballots for decades. Why now? Oh, I forget. To stop that non-existing "voter fraud."

right on point. 

Crazytrain » 05 Oct 2021, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 1:23 pm

Well republicans should make that law in their states. Notice only republican states say there was voter fraud. 

It's that simple.

No. There has always been some nation wide early mail in ballots.. that was ok.
I say now its time to stop it.. You aren't there to vote. No vote. Show up in person. Show a basic id. And case is closed... no excuses. but you do know... I've heard about computer flipping of votes as far back as 98. the man who investigated it. Came to an untimely death. so there you have it.

sooted » wrote:

Crazytrain » 05 Oct 2021, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 1:23 pm

Well republicans should make that law in their states. Notice only republican states say there was voter fraud. 

It's that simple.

No. There has always been some nation wide early mail in ballots.. that was ok.
I say now its time to stop it.. You aren't there to vote. No vote. Show up in person. Show a basic id. And case is closed... no excuses. but you do know... I've heard about computer flipping of votes as far back as 98. the man who investigated it. Came to an untimely death. so there you have it.

 

I am so happy I checked the forum.  I can't recall evah seeing a discussion on the GOP attacks on the right to vote.  How original!  
<sarcasm>

sootedupCyndi » 05 Oct 2021, 2:56 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:56 am

stop the mail in ballots
vote in person
show id.
that simple.
and none of this let the ballots come in for days..

Cyndi,

There is no evidence of voter fraud....

If that pillowcase slips smoothly over your pointy skull, sport it with pride...
 

Huey » 05 Oct 2021, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:00 pm

I am so happy I checked the forum.  I can't recall evah seeing a discussion on the GOP attacks on the right to vote.  How original!  
<sarcasm>

Do you acknowledge that it is happening?

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 3:17 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 3:17 am

Republicans have been voting by mail-in or absentee ballots for decades. Why now? Oh, I forget. To stop that non-existing "voter fraud."

It was only recently used to steal an election. 

No more mass mail in voting.
No more "voting months"

in person, on election DAY, with proper identification. 

Blackvegetable » 05 Oct 2021, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:26 pm

Huey » 05 Oct 2021, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:00 pm

I am so happy I checked the forum.  I can't recall evah seeing a discussion on the GOP attacks on the right to vote.  How original!  
&lt;sarcasm&gt;

Do you acknowledge that it is happening?

 

Nope.  I do see bigoted lefties talking about how minorities are not smart enough to figure out how to get an ID, or where or how to vote.  I see people wanting to do away with the pandemic era alternative methods of voting.  

What do you see?

The first time.  I answered your question.  And make a point. 

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am

In a speech as far back as April 11, 2014, President Barack Obama came right out and said what MOST of us knew to be true even BEFORE then. That voting rights are under a GOP attack.

Fact was the GOP has been attacking people's right to vote for sometime now, prior to the 2016 election, prior to the 2020 election, and continuing more in earnest now, even as we speak.

The conservative response is that the laws are necessary to address issues of "voter fraud" which in and of itself IS a FRAUDULENT ARGUMENT, created by the right in order to pass discriminatory legislation.

Nor is their attack upon the right to vote their ONLY attack upon civil rights.  Because the GOP has also LONG been busy curtailing the rights of CERTAIN others as well.

APPARENTLY, if you don't see the world through their narrow minded conservatively MYOPIC point of view, you don't DESERVE rights.

WE (liberals) should be screaming, "STOP THE STEAL!"
Texas Republicans Are Pulling Out All the Stops to Dilute the Voting Power of People of Color – Mother Jones
Republicans Kicking Democrats Out Of Polling Locations
McConnell denied that GOP voting changes were racist — but a NC law just got knocked down as discriminatory - Alternet.org
Madison Cawthorn talks of 'bloodshed' over future elections while pushing voting lies - CNNPolitics
QOSHE - Emails, text messages undercut claim Florida’s election overhaul wasn’t political - Gary Fineout
The far-right insanity in Colorado is a symptom of something much deeper -- Americans should be on red alert - Raw Story

this attitude you have is based on a lot of unspoken assumptions. First of all...i suppose that any conservative would agree with me that the real issue is that democrats are attempting to make fraudulent votes eaiser. they literally want illegals to vote and have representation on congress. Pushing back against such an agenda is not 'attacking voting rights'...it is literally just an attempt to make us citizenship matter. You only assume that this cannot be the real story cause you assume dems are the good guys...its programming. You have been brainwashed.

Second...you are assuming voting matters. This is not the case. Consider, for example, Iron dome funding passed by 420+ vs 9. Your champion AOC didnt even vote against it. US funding a foreign military is never going to be challenged no matter who you vote for. We are only allowed to argue about trivial stuff and the real goal of voting is for it to be as close as possible to 50/50 so that fools continue to think a real debate is happening and their vote matters.

Meanwhile it is cute that you are tying this to civil rights...because you are also brainwashed into believing that only 'minorities' (soon to be the majority) can possibly be oppressed. But there is zero racial discrimination in the letter of any law in the USA, except against white people. Affirmative action is explicitly anti white. Nothing is anti black nor any mestizo etc. This is just a plain fact...but you simply assume it doesnt matter because of your anti white priors.

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:49 am

In a speech as far back as April 11, 2014, President Barack Obama came right out and said what MOST of us knew to be true even BEFORE then. That voting rights are under a GOP attack.

Fact was the GOP has been attacking people's right to vote for sometime now, prior to the 2016 election, prior to the 2020 election, and continuing more in earnest now, even as we speak.

The conservative response is that the laws are necessary to address issues of "voter fraud" which in and of itself IS a FRAUDULENT ARGUMENT, created by the right in order to pass discriminatory legislation.

Nor is their attack upon the right to vote their ONLY attack upon civil rights.  Because the GOP has also LONG been busy curtailing the rights of CERTAIN others as well.

APPARENTLY, if you don't see the world through their narrow minded conservatively MYOPIC point of view, you don't DESERVE rights.

WE (liberals) should be screaming, "STOP THE STEAL!"
Texas Republicans Are Pulling Out All the Stops to Dilute the Voting Power of People of Color – Mother Jones
Republicans Kicking Democrats Out Of Polling Locations
McConnell denied that GOP voting changes were racist — but a NC law just got knocked down as discriminatory - Alternet.org
Madison Cawthorn talks of 'bloodshed' over future elections while pushing voting lies - CNNPolitics
QOSHE - Emails, text messages undercut claim Florida’s election overhaul wasn’t political - Gary Fineout
The far-right insanity in Colorado is a symptom of something much deeper -- Americans should be on red alert - Raw Story

furthermore... consider this. 

The vast majority of voters simply vote based on their identity. They don't give a fk about policy or arguments. White men will vote for Republicans and black ppl will vote Democrat. That is all.

It is basically nothing more than a demographic head count. No validity of the argument matters. 

ThereFore I see nothing wrong with voter suppression. If vote suppression explicitly happened I could find no ethical problem with it...because voters are only involved in a race war...they don't care or think about the future.

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 3:17 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 3:17 am

Republicans have been voting by mail-in or absentee ballots for decades. Why now? Oh, I forget. To stop that non-existing "voter fraud."

Straw man rebuttal. 

Vegasgiants » 05 Oct 2021, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 3:00 pm

Uh....no.  White men vote democrat too.

only white men in homogeneous societies like Vermont which are vanishing rare.
the fact is that macroscopically if only white men voted there would not be a Democrat president since Nixon. 

these trends are macroscopic and furthermore even when there are exceptions there is a reason linked to idrntity...not rational analysis of some debate. 

voting is almost never informed. In fact the most informed ppl don't bother voting cause they know it doesn't matter. 

therefore...given this corcumstsnce...what is WRONG with voter suppression? What even is WRONG with voter fraud? 

just assume ppl will take their own side and count demographics. Coting isn't necessary. 
 

Hank » 05 Oct 2021, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 3:05 pm

Straw man rebuttal.

Not.

FOS » 05 Oct 2021, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:52 pm

furthermore... consider this. 

The vast majority of voters simply vote based on their identity. They don't give a fk about policy or arguments. White men will vote for Republicans and black ppl will vote Democrat. That is all.

It is basically nothing more than a demographic head count. No validity of the argument matters. 

ThereFore I see nothing wrong with voter suppression. If vote suppression explicitly happened I could find no ethical problem with it...because voters are only involved in a race war...they don't care or think about the future.

Patently false.

FOS » 05 Oct 2021, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:41 pm

this attitude you have is based on a lot of unspoken assumptions. First of all...i suppose that any conservative would agree with me that the real issue is that democrats are attempting to make fraudulent votes eaiser. they literally want illegals to vote and have representation on congress. Pushing back against such an agenda is not 'attacking voting rights'...it is literally just an attempt to make us citizenship matter. You only assume that this cannot be the real story cause you assume dems are the good guys...its programming. You have been brainwashed.

Second...you are assuming voting matters. This is not the case. Consider, for example, Iron dome funding passed by 420+ vs 9. Your champion AOC didnt even vote against it. US funding a foreign military is never going to be challenged no matter who you vote for. We are only allowed to argue about trivial stuff and the real goal of voting is for it to be as close as possible to 50/50 so that fools continue to think a real debate is happening and their vote matters.

Meanwhile it is cute that you are tying this to civil rights...because you are also brainwashed into believing that only 'minorities' (soon to be the majority) can possibly be oppressed. But there is zero racial discrimination in the letter of any law in the USA, except against white people. Affirmative action is explicitly anti white. Nothing is anti black nor any mestizo etc. This is just a plain fact...but you simply assume it doesnt matter because of your anti white priors.

Also untrue.

Neo » 05 Oct 2021, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:28 pm

It was only recently used to steal an election. 

No more mass mail in voting.
No more "voting months"

in person, on election DAY, with proper identification.

More of the BIG LIE Trumpers tell themselves rather that admit they were outvoted.  Or did they think a pathological LIAR O. Office OCCUPANT could get away with stoking hate based, supremacists sentiment, acts of violence, and undermining government WITHOUT people turning out to VOTE his *** out??

Btw, here's just ONE little tidbit Trump and his bamboozled constituency apparently MISSED:

Bill Barr reportedly warned Trump swing voters think he's a 'f---ing a--hole' before election | The Week

Neither will SOME of us, at least, forget nor fail to call it out for WHAT IT IS:

CNN's Pamela Brown on the truth behind Donald Trump's election lie - CNN Video
‘He would foment more violence’: Former Trump insider says he's 'delusional' and fears a 2024 run - Alternet.org
Trump return to White House 'would be a disaster' for US intelligence: Former DHS whistleblower
'MAGA defectors' threaten to expose Trump’s 'unhinged' behavior in wake of Omarosa decision - Alternet.org
We still don't know why a Trump server has mysterious connections to a Russian bank, despite a DOJ indictment

AND:

Never underestimate a psychopath's capacity to do harm.

 
 

B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 7:51 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 7:51 pm

Not.

Patently false.

Also untrue.

More of the BIG LIE Trumpers tell themselves rather that admit they were outvoted.  Or did they think a pathological LIAR O. Office OCCUPANT could get away with stoking hate based, supremacists sentiment, acts of violence, and undermining government WITHOUT people turning out to VOTE his *** out??

Btw, here's just ONE little tidbit Trump and his bamboozled constituency apparently MISSED:

Bill Barr reportedly warned Trump swing voters think he's a 'f---ing a--hole' before election | The Week

Neither will SOME of us, at least, forget nor fail to call it out for WHAT IT IS:

CNN's Pamela Brown on the truth behind Donald Trump's election lie - CNN Video
‘He would foment more violence’: Former Trump insider says he's 'delusional' and fears a 2024 run - Alternet.org
Trump return to White House 'would be a disaster' for US intelligence: Former DHS whistleblower
'MAGA defectors' threaten to expose Trump’s 'unhinged' behavior in wake of Omarosa decision - Alternet.org
We still don't know why a Trump server has mysterious connections to a Russian bank, despite a DOJ indictment

AND:

Never underestimate a psychopath's capacity to do harm.

We must eradicate;

1.  Mail-in Voting.
2.  Wetback Voting.
3.  Late Voting.
4.  No I.D. Voting.
5.  Ballot Harvesting.

Two week early voting cool.
No lines.   None.       Everybody votes when they wish.

God-Bless Texas & 20 other states
that are implementing "Voter Integrity Laws".                 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 05 Oct 2021, 9:02 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 9:02 pm

Please refreshen my memory. How many consecutive batches of ballots came in during the wee hours of the night that had identical vote counts or else required untrackable  adjudication...?

Hillary Clinton Accused Of Voter Fraud In Detroit After Machines Register More Votes For Her Than Registered Voters (judiciaryreport.com)
Melowese Richardson is an absolute ROCK STAR ROLE MODEL WITH THE DNC..!!!
Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats (breitbart.com)

1. The smattering instances of voter fraud do NOT support the BIG LIE... That Trump lost to a "rigged election" or that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election. Even Republican governors and Trump appointed judges dismissed that BOGUS-A** lie.

2. The only "RIGGING' of elections occurred where Republicans, ILLEGALLY kicked voters off registers closed and moved polling places, and GERRYMANDERED districts in a way that gave them MORE WINS WITH LESS VOTES. 

Oh and that stuff in N.C. where one of the GOP's OWN was found guilty of collecting and filling out ballots.

Opinion | The Real Fraud: Republicans’ Voter-Fraud Scare | Frances Moore Lappé
By the Numbers: Voter Fraud | Washington Week
The real election fraud is being committed by Trump and Republicans - The Washington Post
Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth | Brennan Center for Justice
Trump, Republicans claim voter fraud: Here's what we found

As for the lie about Clinton votes in Detroit:

Were More Votes Than Voters Recorded in Detroit in 2016? | Snopes.com
AP FACT CHECK: No proof of mass vote fraud in Michigan

 
 

FOS » 05 Oct 2021, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:41 pm

this attitude you have is based on a lot of unspoken assumptions. First of all...i suppose that any conservative would agree with me that the real issue is that democrats are attempting to make fraudulent votes eaiser. they literally want illegals to vote and have representation on congress. Pushing back against such an agenda is not 'attacking voting rights'...it is literally just an attempt to make us citizenship matter. You only assume that this cannot be the real story cause you assume dems are the good guys...its programming. You have been brainwashed.

Second...you are assuming voting matters. This is not the case. Consider, for example, Iron dome funding passed by 420+ vs 9. Your champion AOC didnt even vote against it. US funding a foreign military is never going to be challenged no matter who you vote for. We are only allowed to argue about trivial stuff and the real goal of voting is for it to be as close as possible to 50/50 so that fools continue to think a real debate is happening and their vote matters.

Meanwhile it is cute that you are tying this to civil rights...because you are also brainwashed into believing that only 'minorities' (soon to be the majority) can possibly be oppressed. But there is zero racial discrimination in the letter of any law in the USA, except against white people. Affirmative action is explicitly anti white. Nothing is anti black nor any mestizo etc. This is just a plain fact...but you simply assume it doesnt matter because of your anti white priors.

 

FOS » 05 Oct 2021, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 2:52 pm

furthermore... consider this. 

The vast majority of voters simply vote based on their identity. They don't give a fk about policy or arguments. White men will vote for Republicans and black ppl will vote Democrat. That is all.

It is basically nothing more than a demographic head count. No validity of the argument matters. 

ThereFore I see nothing wrong with voter suppression. If vote suppression explicitly happened I could find no ethical problem with it...because voters are only involved in a race war...they don't care or think about the future.

Seeing as how your responses above are of SOMEWHAT more substance than the usual more obviously racist drive-bys and personal attacks by those of your counterparts (though still of similar mentalities), I decided to give them more attention than my initial replies.

1. Democrats aren't attempting to make fraudulent votes easier. They're trying to make it easier for those who are QUALIFIED to vote, to DO so.  I don't see where there is anything wrong with that. Whereas REPUBICANS have openly admitted that THEY wouldn't win a single election if more people voted.  Their agenda IS to undermine the right to vote.  And it not only includes id requirements that pose difficulties mostly for those unlikely to vote for them, but closing and moving polling places (in mostly minority neighborhoods) gerrymandered districts that assure them wins even with fewer votes, and opposition to mail in voting - a way of voting that Republicans have been using (to their advantage) for decades.  And that's not all. In many states legislation has been crafted that allows Republicans to throw out and overrule electors, and CHANGE voter outcomes THEY don't like.

2. I don't "assume" Democrats are the good guys. I look at what each side has to offer, and what their platforms, ideologies, and support bases (i.e. their CONSTITUENCIES) portend for ALL Americans, and I choose the lesser of two "evils."  And in MY view, there is NO mystery as to which side that IS.

3. Voting MATTERS. It sure as hell seems to matter to Republicans. And I find it disingenuous of you to suggest otherwise.

4. I don't have to "tie" the right to vote to civil rights. It IS A CIVIL RIGHT. And outcomes can have significant impacts upon the civil rights of MANY.  Again you offer a bogus argument about "zero racial discrimination in the 'letter' of the law" in a disingenuous attempt to whitewash disparities in which laws ARE APPLIED.  And speaking of assuming YOU are wrong to  ASSume that I have anti-white priorities. I have ANTI HATE, ANTI DISCRIMINATION, priorities. I find it interesting how you, in one breath, dismiss the quite obvious intent and effect of voter suppression laws, then in the next, claim Affirmative Action is EXPLICITLY "anti-white."

5. While many voters may indeed vote based upon their identity it happens to BE that identity (or more accurately, who or what policies or arguments they identify with) that motivates their vote. White people vote Democrat, and if Republicans weren't always demonizing minorities and engaging in economic policies that enrich the wealthy at the expense of the middle class and the working poor, maybe more Black people would vote for them as well. 

You may be surprised to know that a great many voters, and Black voters in particular, are WELL informed about what their priorities are, and WHO their enemies are.

6. And finally, your last paragraph pretty much says it all about your position, in spite of all you've written before it, DOES IT NOT?  You wrote: "I see nothing wrong with voter suppression. If vote suppression explicitly happened I could find no ethical problem with it...because voters are only involved in a race war...they don't care or think about the future."

So, in effect, you're okay with denying CERTAIN Americans their RIGHT TO VOTE, via voter suppression, and have "no ethical problem with it" because, in your mind, it's not about RETROGRESSIVE POLICIES, FASCISM, AUTHORITARIANISM, THE STOKING OF HATE AND WHITE SUPREMACIST IDEOLOGY...

NOT about OUR FUTURE or that of AMERICA'S future as a democracy of inclusiveness and empathy for ALL AMERICANS?.... it's just a "race war."

Really??? Just a "race war" to people not earning a livable wage? to people on Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare (MANY of them Republicans) who NEED that kind of support? Just a "race war" to people depending on child nutrition services, to those needing pandemic relief, extended unemployment benefits, protection from evictions? Just a "race war" to those burdened by crushing student debt, to the miiddle class who still can't make ends meet because Trump's and the GOP's bogus-assed Tax Break was in reality a break MAINLY FOR THE FILTHY RICH? 

A "race war" to victims of racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, misogyny, sexual assault, unequal pay for women, bounty hunters looking for women who dare to choose their family options? A "race war" for members of the LGBTQ community who have to face various forms of discrimination on a daily basis?

A "race war" for consumers in need of protection from predatory lending practices, and for those seeking fair housing and lending practices?  A race war for people who are tired of disparate treatment by law enforcement?

I could name MORE of those issues you claim people don't care about... but I think I've MADE MY POINT.