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B.See » 05 Oct 2021, 7:51 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 7:51 pm

Not.

Patently false.

Also untrue.

More of the BIG LIE Trumpers tell themselves rather that admit they were outvoted.  Or did they think a pathological LIAR O. Office OCCUPANT could get away with stoking hate based, supremacists sentiment, acts of violence, and undermining government WITHOUT people turning out to VOTE his *** out??

Btw, here's just ONE little tidbit Trump and his bamboozled constituency apparently MISSED:

Bill Barr reportedly warned Trump swing voters think he's a 'f---ing a--hole' before election | The Week

Neither will SOME of us, at least, forget nor fail to call it out for WHAT IT IS:

CNN's Pamela Brown on the truth behind Donald Trump's election lie - CNN Video
‘He would foment more violence’: Former Trump insider says he's 'delusional' and fears a 2024 run - Alternet.org
Trump return to White House 'would be a disaster' for US intelligence: Former DHS whistleblower
'MAGA defectors' threaten to expose Trump’s 'unhinged' behavior in wake of Omarosa decision - Alternet.org
We still don't know why a Trump server has mysterious connections to a Russian bank, despite a DOJ indictment

AND:

Never underestimate a psychopath's capacity to do harm.

Taipan » 05 Oct 2021, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 8:42 pm

We must eradicate;

1.  Mail-in Voting.
2.  Wetback Voting.
3.  Late Voting.
4.  No I.D. Voting.
5.  Ballot Harvesting.

Two week early voting cool.
No lines.   None.       Everybody votes when they wish.

God-Bless Texas & 20 other states
that are implementing "Voter Integrity Laws".                 

Crazytrain » 06 Oct 2021, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 8:43 am

which was all proven a big lie by your own people.

Taipan » 06 Oct 2021, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 8:51 am

You will never again see 81 millions Dem Ballots.
Never.    Because of the "Voter Integrity Laws".
The Dem Team does not have that many voters.

Do you wanna bet ?                                  

Crazytrain » 06 Oct 2021, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 8:55 am

Your forensic audit showed more votes for Biden in Arizona. 

I want a forensic audit in Texas so we can find more Biden votes. 

 

Vegasgiants » 06 Oct 2021, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 8:54 am

Yes I want to bet.  You lose and are gone from here forever

Taipan » 05 Oct 2021, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2021, 8:42 pm

We must eradicate;

1.  Mail-in Voting.
2.  Wetback Voting.
3.  Late Voting.
4.  No I.D. Voting.
5.  Ballot Harvesting.

Two week early voting cool.
No lines.   None.       Everybody votes when they wish.

God-Bless Texas & 20 other states
that are implementing "Voter Integrity Laws".                 

Vegasgiants » 06 Oct 2021, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 9:17 am

You said ever.  You change your mind now?  Lol

Vegasgiants » 06 Oct 2021, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 9:26 am

Yeah I knew you were lying.

Vegas » wrote:

21 Jan 1970, 6:30 pm

DeezerShoove » 06 Oct 2021, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 9:50 am

Simple:

ID requiried. Also, ALL VOTERS registered to vote minimum 30 days in advance.

Absentee for military only. Administered through military.

Mail-in restricted to house-bound. Deadline 30 days prior to election day.

Tough **** categories:
Convicts, vacationers, non-citizens, lazy, forgetful, etc.

You must be lazy

One day Voting only in one place in each state


12 forms of id required......unless you hate America?

 

Huey » 06 Oct 2021, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 9:53 am

That's dumb

Crazytrain » 06 Oct 2021, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 9:55 am

I agree with the i.d. to vote. But banning water at the polling aces was stupid. And make voting a holiday.

B.See » 06 Oct 2021, 12:06 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 12:06 am

Seeing as how your responses above are of SOMEWHAT more substance than the usual more obviously racist drive-bys and personal attacks by those of your counterparts (though still of similar mentalities), I decided to give them more attention than my initial replies.

1. Democrats aren't attempting to make fraudulent votes easier. They're trying to make it easier for those who are QUALIFIED to vote, to DO so.  I don't see where there is anything wrong with that. Whereas REPUBICANS have openly admitted that THEY wouldn't win a single election if more people voted.  Their agenda IS to undermine the right to vote.  And it not only includes id requirements that pose difficulties mostly for those unlikely to vote for them, but closing and moving polling places (in mostly minority neighborhoods) gerrymandered districts that assure them wins even with fewer votes, and opposition to mail in voting - a way of voting that Republicans have been using (to their advantage) for decades.  And that's not all. In many states legislation has been crafted that allows Republicans to throw out and overrule electors, and CHANGE voter outcomes THEY don't like.

2. I don't "assume" Democrats are the good guys. I look at what each side has to offer, and what their platforms, ideologies, and support bases (i.e. their CONSTITUENCIES) portend for ALL Americans, and I choose the lesser of two "evils."  And in MY view, there is NO mystery as to which side that IS.

3. Voting MATTERS. It sure as hell seems to matter to Republicans. And I find it disingenuous of you to suggest otherwise.

4. I don't have to "tie" the right to vote to civil rights. It IS A CIVIL RIGHT. And outcomes can have significant impacts upon the civil rights of MANY.  Again you offer a bogus argument about "zero racial discrimination in the 'letter' of the law" in a disingenuous attempt to whitewash disparities in which laws ARE APPLIED.  And speaking of assuming YOU are wrong to  ASSume that I have anti-white priorities. I have ANTI HATE, ANTI DISCRIMINATION, priorities. I find it interesting how you, in one breath, dismiss the quite obvious intent and effect of voter suppression laws, then in the next, claim Affirmative Action is EXPLICITLY "anti-white."

5. While many voters may indeed vote based upon their identity it happens to BE that identity (or more accurately, who or what policies or arguments they identify with) that motivates their vote. White people vote Democrat, and if Republicans weren't always demonizing minorities and engaging in economic policies that enrich the wealthy at the expense of the middle class and the working poor, maybe more Black people would vote for them as well. 

You may be surprised to know that a great many voters, and Black voters in particular, are WELL informed about what their priorities are, and WHO their enemies are.

6. And finally, your last paragraph pretty much says it all about your position, in spite of all you've written before it, DOES IT NOT?  You wrote: "I see nothing wrong with voter suppression. If vote suppression explicitly happened I could find no ethical problem with it...because voters are only involved in a race war...they don't care or think about the future."

So, in effect, you're okay with denying CERTAIN Americans their RIGHT TO VOTE, via voter suppression, and have "no ethical problem with it" because, in your mind, it's not about RETROGRESSIVE POLICIES, FASCISM, AUTHORITARIANISM, THE STOKING OF HATE AND WHITE SUPREMACIST IDEOLOGY...

NOT about OUR FUTURE or that of AMERICA'S future as a democracy of inclusiveness and empathy for ALL AMERICANS?.... it's just a "race war."

Really??? Just a "race war" to people not earning a livable wage? to people on Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare (MANY of them Republicans) who NEED that kind of support? Just a "race war" to people depending on child nutrition services, to those needing pandemic relief, extended unemployment benefits, protection from evictions? Just a "race war" to those burdened by crushing student debt, to the miiddle class who still can't make ends meet because Trump's and the GOP's bogus-assed Tax Break was in reality a break MAINLY FOR THE FILTHY RICH? 

A "race war" to victims of racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, misogyny, sexual assault, unequal pay for women, bounty hunters looking for women who dare to choose their family options? A "race war" for members of the LGBTQ community who have to face various forms of discrimination on a daily basis?

A "race war" for consumers in need of protection from predatory lending practices, and for those seeking fair housing and lending practices?  A race war for people who are tired of disparate treatment by law enforcement?

I could name MORE of those issues you claim people don't care about... but I think I've MADE MY POINT.

FOS » 06 Oct 2021, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 12:47 pm

Dude...wages have been stagnant since the 70s. You are never going to get your living wages. And this isnt because republican keep beating democrats lol...its because democrats ARE republicans.

The purpose of a political career is to make money.

I think it is absurd for you to think your vote matters.

And nobody is going to believe you that the average black is actually studying economics or something before they vote lol...come on...get real

You dont seem to understand wtf I am if you think i am disingenuous. I also dont care if democrats engage in voter fraud because that doesnt matter. I am not a 'republican'...i am a fascist...which means i want a proletariat revolution to destroy the current elite.

Regardless...conservative voters (which i am not) are not stupid nor are they pointlessly cruel. THat is also preposterous and out of touch with reality if you think so. THe only reason you dont understand their point of view is because you are stuck in an echo chamber that lies to you constantly...and so are they.

GHETTOBLASTER » 06 Oct 2021, 10:21 am » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2021, 10:21 am

37% of Detroit precincts had more votes for Clinton than there were people registered to vote.
The rest of the precincts did not allow themselves to be audited....hmmm, nothing to see there folks...
I will  bet Snopes failed to mention that little detail..https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... /95363314/