So you typed all that just to tell us that microsoft is pure evil..... seriously?LibDave » 29 Dec 2021, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑ 3rd attempt same thing after not being able to work from my computer for a day. So 1 days lost wages and it was now Monday. Microsoft still wasn't answering so I opted for the 10 hour wait with DR DOS help line. After 10 hours I started to explain the issue. I didn't even finish my sentence. I said, "I'm trying to install Windows 4.0 and..." then I was interrupted. He said, "Yes we know what the problem is. Boot off your DR DOS floppy and go to your DR DOS directory. Type rename DRDOS.CFG to DRDOS.BAK. Install windows 4.0. It will finish in about 10 hours. After you are done rename DRDOS.BAK back to DRDOS.CFG. You'll be good to go". I was like, "WTF!!!!". He said, "Yes. Windows considers DRDOS a threat to their monopoly of the operating system. So they check before completing the install to see whether this file exists. If it does they won't let you complete the install."
DR DOS received countless calls and it literally swamped their help lines and cost them millions. As a startup this was something they could ill afford. Eventually this and other blatantly unfair trade practices by Microsoft put them under. They filed suit. In the early 80's trying to get a jury of 12 to understand what an operating system even is was an impossible task. But they succeeded.... 10 years later after they had already filed for bankruptcy. Microsoft was found in violation of antitrust and the former stock holders were awarded a pittance in damages. Microsoft remains one of the dominant OS to this day. I will NEVER forgive them for wasting my time and costing me (one of their customers) valuable time and money dealing with their crap. So we agree there are abuses. But these aren't capitalism. We have antitrust laws in place for just this reason. Unfortunately, our legal system is very slow in dealing with this crap and legal fees are outrageous. Lawyers can drag on a case far beyond the point were damages can be fully redressed.
When I finally got to speak to Microsoft to file a complaint and at least vent my anger at SOMEONE from Microsoft they gave me the standard response. "DR DOS is not compatible with WINDOWS 4.0 so were were doing a service to our customers preventing installation of both products to avoid the customer losing data". I continued to run DR DOS for quite some time thereafter and NEVER had any issues. Evidence later came out this was a complete fabrication.


Well, that is both unpleasant, and an admission that you are flying a false flag. Whose sok are you? I never thought to check - took you a face value.LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 1:57 am » wrote: ↑ I've been asked and answered this question several times. Likely by you. You seem to think this is a question which furthers your argument in some manner. It doesn't. It is merely a Red Herring. It is a brain dead query quite frankly and not at all relevant for serious contemplation.
Pretty sure the rest of the board understood I was talking about a redistributionist welfare state mechanism - not government qua government. You SURE you've fielded this question before? Because you're fielding a very different and very stupid question, now. I can see why you find it annoying. As you have misformulated it, it's pretty retarded.LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 1:57 am » wrote: ↑No system of government can exist without a system of government. So all governments which have ever existed cannot be devoid of government. So the hell what? Ask a completely stupid question and you get a stupid answer. But the answer is correct as you framed the question.
Okay, I'm not going any further down this rabbit hole.LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 1:57 am » wrote: ↑ Government provision of ANY function is by definition socialist in some regard.
Minds are formed after birth when brains are educated to communicate shared ideologies. Brains are formed by merger of reproductive cells a body that only exists as eternally separated currently occupying space is alive here now.LibDave » 29 Dec 2021, 3:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Intended for discussions needed and often misunderstood in regards to politics, geopolitics, economics, defense, or science (or anything of interest).
technology isn't good or evil, it is accurate or misleading as you perform here demanding everyone supply doubt for their relative ideology to control tomorrows today. Source of greed, corruption, chaos that expands one generation after another until every ancestor between 16 great great grandparent generation and each arriving great great grandchild sustain achieved doubts combined since dawn of civilization within a species destroying itself and everything else inhabiting the atmosphere of their origin occupying time directly proportioned to reproductive results in plain sight and total behavior practiced historically to date.Jantje_Smit » 30 Dec 2021, 4:45 am » wrote: ↑ So you typed all that just to tell us that microsoft is pure evil..... seriously?
Maybe you should consider cutting back on the nourishment
Bill Gates is definitely evil... and the technology he 'developed' too...don't tell tell me you don't get eneraged when windows promises you better tomorrows if you choose to install the next generation of corrupt updates.... not that you actually have a choice of course....omh » 30 Dec 2021, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑ technology isn't good or evil, it is accurate or misleading as you perform here demanding everyone supply doubt for their relative ideology to control tomorrows today. Source of greed, corruption, chaos that expands one generation after another until every ancestor between 16 great great grandparent generation and each arriving great great grandchild sustain achieved doubts combined since dawn of civilization within a species destroying itself and everything else inhabiting the atmosphere of their origin occupying time directly proportioned to reproductive results in plain sight and total behavior practiced historically to date.
Be careful what you wish for as when those manifesting doubt get it, nobody else is allowed to discuss honest reasons "life is exactly what it is here now."..
It was the CRA which caused the problem.Cannonpointer » 29 Dec 2021, 10:45 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah - no foolin. Wall Street raids Main Street - because wall street capitalism runs the **** show.
Main Streeters can go fish. THAT'S the game. And you need to stop defending it by pretending it's an anomoly and not the game rules.
Well I don't blame George Wallace.
Who did YOU think started the first round of bailouts? Ron Reagan?
I don't only blame W for the bailouts - I blame him and his socialist party for the crash in the first place. After all, it was the American Dream Down Payment Act which broke the game - though the house of cards was destined to fall eventually, notwithstanding.
I will let the criminal who gave people with no job, no money and no credit free houses on the public teat explain the crime to you in his own words, so that you need not take MY word for anything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ&t=144s
I believe you meant "rationalize" not relegate. IAE, I've clearly supported limiting government as did the Founding Fathers. And like I said, this isn't unique to capitalism or even the American Idea. It's just plain corrupt and has been a facet of every nation under every system since the beginning of time. The fact that people circumvent the law doesn't mean you throw out the law, let alone the entire system. Should we improve our prosecution of such matter? Of course.Cannonpointer » 29 Dec 2021, 9:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Again, you are attempting to relegate a primary feature of capitalism - the corruption and takeover of regulatory agencies to effect monopoly powers - to a mere foible of a few capitalists. But in truth, capitalism is all about government enforced monopolies - and I have given you plenty of examples to dispute, if you can do so.
Explain to us, for example, how the current bullying to get vaxed, using government muscle to force people to take wall street's products, is a mere foible. Or explain how the takeover of the vape market using the government gun is not a feature of capitalism, but a mere foible. Or how preventing new entrants into the market place in the solar pane industry is not a feature, but merely a foible, of capitalism. Or how nullifying the democratic power of governments through trade treaties is not a threat to national sovereignty and an attempt to overthrow/overtake the government from within.
If you would have minimalist government, do not support big government.LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑ I believe you meant "rationalize" not relegate. IAE, I've clearly supported limiting government as did the Founding Fathers. And like I said, this isn't unique to capitalism or even the American Idea. It's just plain corrupt and has been a facet of every nation under every system since the beginning of time. The fact that people circumvent the law doesn't mean you throw out the law, let alone the entire system. Should we improve our prosecution of such matter? Of course.
My apologies. You were indeed speaking of a different matter.Cannonpointer » 30 Dec 2021, 12:09 am » wrote: ↑ I believe we are discussing different disbursements.
I am talking about the socialist giveaway that broke the bank in the first place - not the "loans" that you've been convinced (and I have not) were repaid.
I don't think so. The Canada Regulatory Agency had no power to give homes to unqualified people to reward them for their skin color.
Better than you Trump fascists trying another violent coup attempt.LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ And yes that was fully in the DNC left-wing socialist camp
I think you mean half a trillion.LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑ My apologies. You were indeed speaking of a different matter.
You couldn't be more wrong. Your confirmation bias is showing. The video you refer too, which was spread to you by left-wing propagandists, is a video detailing a 1/2 Billion dollar government program 6 years earlier which was basically another example of socialist welfare entitlements.
Cannonpointer » 30 Dec 2021, 12:51 pm » wrote: ↑ I think you mean half a trillion.
Let me be more precise. I mean half a trillion. And that is soft-selling and under-reporting. Federal programs NEVER operate at their advertised price, and this one was no exception. It was the BALE of straw that broke the camel's back.
I did not bother to read farther - we're not discussing the same issue. I would not have bothered to mention a half billion dollar project, and after constant prodding, you have failed to address a half trillion dollar nanny state republican boondoggle based on race. I prodded you how many times to address the issue in the video? And when you finally addressed it, you reduced by a one thousand times and dismissed it as left wing propaganda. Yes - George W. Bush stood at a podium and rolled out a socialist spending program in order to produce left wing propaganda. No, really. That happened.
Either you made an honest mistake, or you're just not interested in an honest debate. Do apprise me with an appropriate response, won't you? But whatever way you go, do take notice that a man's own words, in context, will never be agreed by me to be his enemies' propaganda. And for that matter, only YOU are abused to believe that he and the clintons are "enemies." W's mom calls bill clinton her "other" son. W supported hitlery over Trump. So, the facile **** that Bush's OWN WORDS are manufactured by the left is rejected, sir.
And libdave believes he is "defending conservatism" when he shills for the chimp that gave us the patriot act/24-7 big brother surveillance, wars for wall street and the crash of the economy - which libdave appears to blame on Canada.SJConspirator » 30 Dec 2021, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑ the Bushes hate Trump. They voted for their neocon globalist in arms.. Hillary

Cannonpointer » 30 Dec 2021, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑ The problem that you are encountering, libdave, is that you are bringing level one arguments to a level 2, level 3 board.
Yes, we are replete with lowbrows, always. And yes, we tire of holding our end and engage in a bit of trolling.
But many of us on this board have worked through the level one **** you are bringing. I mean, you sling adam smith like he's the new kid with the shiny idea. A bit of infill has been experienced since his day. We've gone from theory to practice.
And it is the actual practice of capitalism that affects our lives - not the theory.
You still have not explained why the nanny state needs to be involved in the economy at the level of regulating the trading boards which you APPARENTLY require in order for you and some buddies to go into bidness together...
Cannonpointer » 30 Dec 2021, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑ And libdave believes he is "defending conservatism" when he shills for the chimp that gave us the patriot act/24-7 big brother surveillance, wars for wall street and the crash of the economy - which appears to blame on Canada.
uch MARVELOUS conservatism libdave defends...
ha ha ha.. you must mean the chimp that endorsed Biden.Cannonpointer » 30 Dec 2021, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑ And libdave believes he is "defending conservatism" when he shills for the chimp that gave us the patriot act/24-7 big brother surveillance, wars for wall street and the crash of the economy - which appears to blame on Canada.
uch MARVELOUS conservatism libdave defends...
SJConspirator » 30 Dec 2021, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump was crazy enough to defy the globalists.. that's what I liked about him, despite his being a asshole.
Bush had no redeeming quality. His presidency brought 9/11, killing 3k people and some how got worse from there, ending in total ruin