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SJConspirator » 30 Dec 2021, 9:36 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:36 pm

exactly.  Every $billion hoarded by the oligarchs is a $billion NOT CIRCULATING IN  ECONOMY that could otherwise spur new building, innovation, employment, prosperity.

The irony here is Libdave supports policies that drive poverty, unemployment, General misery and societal decay

This is why fascist governments basically had the economic model of 'we don't mind if you are rich, but you are going to produce what we tell you to produce when we have a priority to'

I suppose you were saying the same thing about WalMart? Probably believed the Walton family was worth more than half the US citizens. Now it's Amazon. WalMart must not have had as much control as people thought.

When Bezos spends his money it puts people to work. It also furthers our space technology in the process. Next step towards colonizing other lands. He believed this was how he wanted to best spend his money. Magellan probably should have stayed home too?

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 9:40 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:40 pm

I suppose you were saying the same thing about WalMart? Probably believed the Walton family was worth more than half the US citizens. Now it's Amazon. WalMart must not have had as much control as people thought.

Walmart power is or was tied to the Chinese state. That is how Wall mart manages to sell products so cheaply. Thanks to the relation between Walmart and China is has some autonomy over the usa zog empire. Money is not the goal of any large corporation, power is the goal. 

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 9:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:42 pm

When Bezos spends his money it puts people to work. It also furthers our space technology in the process. Next step towards colonizing other lands. He believed this was how he wanted to best spend his money. Magellan probably should have stayed home too?

First of all no it doesn't. Reagan economics does not work. Bezos cannot hire 10 million prostitutes as long as he has only one penis. Nor does he particularly want to spend money. Greed does not drive our economy...power does. You are basing your world view on priors that our elite deliberately programmed you with.

FOS » 30 Dec 2021, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:37 pm

I do not think you are paying his taxes.

But I also think it is worse than you are saying. 

Part of thr motivation for covid lockdowns and legalized shoplifting, for example, is probably to make Amazon the soul retailer in the usa. 

And with completely centralized power like amazon etc.. the merchants can increase their coercive power on the population..

Wasn't Amazon delivery goods to people's homes in an effort to reduce the spread of COVID a good thing?

Or perhaps people just liked the service of not having to go shopping.  Looks like he was the first to realize.  I think he is onto something.  He sure earned a lot providing service to people who valued that service.  Now it's only right he pay MORE than the taxes he owes.  I think he probably should have to give all the money to FOS for a handful of mushrooms.  I disagree with his choice to spend the money he earned someplace other than in your back yard.

Oh... I"M THE ONE who is brainwashed. I see?

Did you ever consider YOU might be the one? It's easier to fool a man than convince him he has been a fool.

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 9:47 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:47 pm

Wasn't Amazon delivery goods to people's homes in an effort to reduce the spread of COVID a good thing?

Or perhaps people just liked the service of not having to go shopping.  Looks like he was the first to realize.  I think he is onto something.  He sure earned a lot providing service to people who valued that service.  Now it's only right he pay MORE than the taxes he owes.  I think he probably should have to give all the money to FOS for a handful of mushrooms.  I disagree with his choice to spend the money he earned someplace other than in your back yard.

First of allnyou should be aware that an Amazon type service was not invented by Amazon. It was actually invented by sears. Shortly after Amazon came into existence sears was sabotaged by its own ceo...obviously deliberately.

there is no entrepreneurial nonsense in our modern economy. It is all power and corruption.

FOS » 30 Dec 2021, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:37 pm

I do not think you are paying his taxes.

But I also think it is worse than you are saying. 

Part of thr motivation for covid lockdowns and legalized shoplifting, for example, is probably to make Amazon the soul retailer in the usa. 

And with completely centralized power like amazon etc.. the merchants can increase their coercive power on the population..

this was the primary reason for the plandemic

https://ips-dc.org/u-s-billionaires-62- ... -pandemic/


they “earned it “. Lol.

If this was true why not prosecute him? If he did something illegal. Are there any rich people whose money you DON'T think you deserve?

FOS » 30 Dec 2021, 9:46 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 9:46 pm

First of all no it doesn't. Reagan economics does not work. Bezos cannot hire 10 million prostitutes as long as he has only one penis. Nor does he particularly want to spend money. Greed does not drive our economy...power does. You are basing your world view on priors that our elite deliberately programmed you with.

he also is stuck in a worldview that is not post scarcity.  

In 1930, there was more feet than shoes.  Now there is more shoes than feet, and we are absolutely over saturated with every commodity, far beyond what we can use. Hence planned obsolescence, which ironically resembles the heart of Communist ideology.. central planned economy.

does that mean that socialism is any more viable now than in 1930.?  Probly not, but it absolutely changes the game

Trump is rich. Do you think he did something wrong? What about Zimmerman? Maxine Waters? Pelosi? Kerry? Sanders? Branson? Michael Jackson? David Beckum? Michael Jordan? Tom Brady? Giselle? Any of these?

Are there ANY rich people who don't stir your avarice?
Cher?  Barbara Streisand?  Robert De  Niro?  Marlon Brando?  Al Pacino?

SJConspirator » 30 Dec 2021, 10:03 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 10:03 pm

he also is stuck in a worldview that is not post scarcity.  

In 1930, there was more feet than shoes.  Now there is more shoes than feet, and we are absolutely over saturated with every commodity, far beyond what we can use. Hence planned obsolescence, which ironically resembles the heart of Communist ideology.. central planned economy.

does that mean that socialism is any more viable now than in 1930.?  Probly not, but it absolutely changes the game

I have a feeling we are going to be living in some extreme scarcity very quickly and fairly soon. The way our state is operating is totally unsustainable and a collapse will happen.

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 10:02 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 10:02 pm

If this was true why not prosecute him? If he did something illegal. Are there any rich people whose money you DON'T think you deserve?

you can't prosecute people who control the legal system

FOS » 30 Dec 2021, 10:07 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 10:07 pm

I have a feeling we are going to be living in some extreme scarcity very quickly and fairly soon. The way our state is operating is totally unsustainable and a collapse will happen.

Not me.

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm

Trump is rich. Do you think he did something wrong? What about Zimmerman? Maxine Waters? Pelosi? Kerry? Sanders? Branson? Michael Jackson? David Beckum? Michael Jordan? Tom Brady? Giselle? Any of these?

Are there ANY rich people who don't stir your avarice?
Cher?  Barbara Streisand?  Robert De  Niro?  Marlon Brando?  Al Pacino?

I don't think Tom Brady did anything wrong. 

but your rant is pretty emotional. 

you should pretend I am a rational human because I actually am. I simply think I know things you do not know. That shouldn't make you upset.

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm

Trump is rich. Do you think he did something wrong? What about Zimmerman? Maxine Waters? Pelosi? Kerry? Sanders? Branson? Michael Jackson? David Beckum? Michael Jordan? Tom Brady? Giselle? Any of these?

Are there ANY rich people who don't stir your avarice?

I have given away more money than you, I wager.  If I was so envious of the rich, why would I not hoard everything like they do?

Its probably inconceivable to you that any motivation for anything could be something other than sheer greed.  Therein lies your brainwashing.. 

have you heard of nuns?  Monks?  The Amish?  Are you aware that millions of people throughout history have refused wealth, even taken vows of poverty?

Trust me. I'm a lot more aware than you will ever be. You don't know the first thing about me. I'm well aware of changes and forces at work. And I have a VERY high understanding of economics, geo politics, finance and anything defense related. I'm also obscenely rich.
And to answer your next question, No I don't pay all that much in taxes.  But I always pay what I owe.

LibDave » 30 Dec 2021, 10:14 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Dec 2021, 10:14 pm

Trust me. I'm a lot more aware than you will ever be. You don't know the first thing about me. I'm well aware of changes and forces at work. And I have a VERY high understanding of economics, geo politics, finance and anything defense related. I'm also obscenely rich.

You just suggested to me that bezos invented the Amazon business model. I had to correct you. It was sears. You can go Google this and confirm I am right. 

So we don't need to take seriously your idea that you know everything lol
 

Furthermore people need to be a lot more open to conspiratorial thinking. Look at this: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/sears-s ... hefts.html

There is more dubious info than this also. I have no doubt that lambert was actually working for Amazon and destroyed sears so that Amazon would have no competition.

It is worth pointing out that he is a jew, for example.