This is not your grandfather's americaSJConspirator » 01 Jan 2022, 10:25 pm » wrote: ↑ It's crazy that some people still have this beery sentimental patriotism .for AMERICA . this guy probly gets weepy over a U.S. flag rippling in the wind
Some people still can't see that America is a mall where the stores went out of business 20 years ago and the thugs took over and your gonna get shot in the parking lot
LibDave » 01 Jan 2022, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ USSR, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, India, Vietnam, China, Baltic States, Czech, Hungary, Romania, et al to name just a few have all had identical results.
Venezuela is a perfect modern day example. They were once one of the wealthiest nations in the world. They have the largest sources of oil per capita in the world by far. It is also of the best grade. They have ample other resources and are located in a key geo-political area. They had a very high standard of living under capitalism. Within a very short time after experimenting with socialism they took a dramatic turn. Conditions there now are some of the worst in the world. The people can't even obtain toilet paper, let alone food. Even collecting rain water in a barrel is considered theft of the governments property.
If I lived in the 50s and 60s I probly would been a flag waving Patriot way back then. But now... HELL naw
SJConspirator » 01 Jan 2022, 10:59 pm » wrote: ↑ If I lived in the 50s and 60s I probly would been a flag waving Patriot way back then. But now... HELL naw
I was in the army for 4 years in the 90s and saw thru the ****
All of them have an inferior economy compared to..say...Uruguay. what's thr difference?LibDave » 01 Jan 2022, 11:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Argentina, Bolivia, and Peru were some of the first nations to cast off there socialist system. The rise in the standard of living couldn't be more dramatic. These are perfect empirical examples to test and compare the merits of each. There are many others and many studies go even further. In the US studies clearly indicate our experiment with socialism and the Great Society has also been a complete failure and is responsible for the cracks we are beginning to witness.
These things you speak of exist BECAUSE of socialism creeping into our American Ideal. You can't just see something and say, see that... that's because of capitalism. In a Democratic Socialist system it doesn't suffice to just do as the intellectual elite do and just claim some cause because to do otherwise would hurt the interests of the people in charge. Of course the intelligentsia in the Universities, media, and the bureaucracy would claim it is due to capitalism. But is it really? What about all of Sowell's actual empirical studies which indicate this is not at all the case. We didn't have these issues until after socialist policies. And Sowell has PROVEN the connection. Look at the rate of child-birth and the drop in marriage rate among the black community which only began after the Great Society and the socialist war on poverty. And Sowell didn't just do it for the US data. He broke it down into pieces from virtually all over the world and found time and again the same result. If you pay people more for having children while you have a family income below a certain level is it any surprise you will get an increase in single-mother children. The Great Society penalizes those on these programs but making it known if you do better than the level they consider basic subsistence the funding will be cut off. So they never even try to get above the level to a place of success.SJConspirator » 01 Jan 2022, 10:25 pm » wrote: ↑ It's crazy that some people still have this beery sentimental patriotism .for AMERICA . this guy probly gets weepy over a U.S. flag rippling in the wind
Some people still can't see that America is a mall where the stores went out of business 20 years ago and the thugs took over and your gonna get shot in the parking lot
LibDave » 01 Jan 2022, 11:03 pm » wrote: ↑ These things you speak of exist BECAUSE of socialism creeping into our American Ideal.
34% socialist. But even that is almost more than any capitalist system can withstand. At 34% socialism the motivation equation shows a 75% reduction in the motivation to produce. At the same time those who decide to opt out of producing and live off the socialism make 45% of what the average person who earns makes. So they can make lets say 100,000/year working 40 hours per week or they can get $45,000/year getting food stamps, unemployment, welfare, SS disability, CDCS and other assistance. This leaves them 40 hours per week to do drugs, sell drugs, steal or do really whatever they want up to and including NOT A DAMN THING.
LibDave » 01 Jan 2022, 11:25 pm » wrote: ↑ 34% socialist. But even that is almost more than any capitalist system can withstand. At 34% socialism the motivation equation shows a 75% reduction in the motivation to produce. At the same time those who decide to opt out of producing and live off the socialism make 45% of what the average person who earns makes. So they can make lets say 100,000/year working 40 hours per week or I can get $45,000/year getting food stamps, unemployment, welfare, and SS disability, CDCS and other assistance. These leaves them 40 hours per weeks to do drugs, sell drugs, steal or do really whatever they want up to and including NOT A DAMN THING.
The 100,000/year actually only buys 25% of what it would without the socialism in place. This is why the motivation equation shows a 75% reduction in incentive.
It isn't just blacks or others taking advantage. Although blacks are hurt by the lowering of standards as Sowell's work clearly proves.FOS » 01 Jan 2022, 11:26 pm » wrote: ↑ why would any white person work for this country? What is in it for us?
I don't give a ****. What is in it for me? How does improving the usa benefit whites?LibDave » 01 Jan 2022, 11:27 pm » wrote: ↑ It isn't just blacks or others taking advantage. Although blacks are hurt by the lowering of standards as Sowell's work clearly proves.
Oh, and certain things will basically get you a VERY negative score. For instance you can't have one where a black character commits and sort of crime.FOS » 01 Jan 2022, 11:29 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't give a ****. What is in it for me? How does improving the usa benefit whites?
We are literally discriminated against. Legally. Explicitly.
LibDave » 02 Jan 2022, 12:50 am » wrote: ↑ Oh, and certain things will basically get you a VERY negative score. For instance you can't have one where a black character commits and sort of crime.
Read the anecdote above that.
It isn't about blacks. I agree blacks have no power. Ergo it is jews.
Apparently you are ignoring several other demographics.FOS » 02 Jan 2022, 12:56 am » wrote: ↑ It isn't about blacks. I agree blacks have no power. Ergo it is jews.