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The Math Behind My Vax Decision
The Math Behind My Vax Decision
By Cannonpointer
31 Dec 2021 3:00 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
31 Dec 2021 10:17 pm
I absolutely agree. But the people I am confronting with this math do not. So I prefer to give them numbers they CAN'T dispute.freeman » 31 Dec 2021, 10:16 pm » wrote: ↑ Little issue with your math. For those under 70 there is indeed an average 3 in 10,000 risk of death from COVID, but that includes obese diabetics with cancer. So if a person isn't obese and doesn't have comorbidities they would have maybe a 10 times lower risk? That would make it an average 3 in 100,000 risk of death for relatively healthy folks under 70.
But that doesn't take into account early outpatient treatment with a multi-drug/nutraceutical therapy that includes HCQ or IVM that have been shown to be 99+% effective in treatment of elderly and high-risk individuals ever since March of 2020, if started within 3-5 days from presentation of symptoms. So add a couple more digits and that would make it more like 3 in 10,000,000 chance of a healthy person dying of COVID, particularly if they have been keeping up their levels of vitamin D, and zinc along with an ionophore like quercetin to get their cells locked and loaded against infection.
I tested positive on Tuesday, did my regular workout on Friday. Tuesday and Wednesday were rough, by thursday the improvement was profound, and I woke up today well.
I'm still going to complete the protocol. though. I have a id from working coming over every day to do it with me - he tested positive the next day after I did.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
31 Dec 2021 10:21 pm
Thank you - I have written and voiced hundreds of spots.LibDave » 31 Dec 2021, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Spot on!!! Same here. I couldn't match or better it. And you should write commercials.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
31 Dec 2021 10:39 pm
Glad you're out of the woods! Seemed like you were a bit under the weather as well as a bit concerned. I don't know if either of my recent experiences that I detailed on the last page were Omicron (based on there being a second infection). I'll probably never know unless I get an antibody or T-detect test.Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 11:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I absolutely agree. But the people I am confronting with this math do not. So I prefer to give them numbers they CAN'T dispute.
I tested positive on Tuesday, did my regular workout on Friday. Tuesday and Wednesday were rough, by thursday the improvement was profound, and I woke up today well.
I'm still going to complete the protocol. though. I have a id from working coming over every day to do it with me - he tested positive the next day after I did.
31 Dec 2021 10:43 pm
I wasn't concerned - I was supremely confident. I had walked a couple of family members through it, and I knew that I have a extremely good immune system. I DID expect a tougher go. I strongly suspect that my positive attitude toward my certain victory was a force multiplier against the disease. Of course, the corollary to THAT is this: I consider many of those who died to have been murdered by the propaganda that built the disease up as the very Reaper himself. They were convinced that catching it was a death sentence - and as they believed, so it was unto them.freeman » 31 Dec 2021, 11:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Glad you're out of the woods! Seemed like you were a bit under the weather as well as a bit concerned. I don't know if either of my recent experiences that I detailed on the last page were Omicron (based on there being a second infection). I'll probably never know unless I get an antibody or T-detect test.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
31 Dec 2021 10:50 pm
I've never had the flu in my adult life and have never had a flu shot. No one ever acted like that was a crime, either. Because the MSM never politicized the flu.freeman » 31 Dec 2021, 11:12 pm » wrote: ↑ On the protocol, two weeks ago I stayed in a sleezy motel and woke up in the middle of the night blowing and sneezing without ceasing for an hour. A little while after waking up in the morning nearly continuous sneezing and blowing started and continued all day, filling the trash can up with used kleenex. Sick as a dog, but all in my nose. Took 24mg ivermectin, 50mg zinc, 500mg quercetin, 15,000 units vitamin D.
Zero trace - not the slightest hint of a runny nose the next day. No other symptoms. But mind you I have been prophylaxing with 1-5,000 units of vitamin D, 25mg zinc and 250mg quercetin along with multi-vitamin and more, on most days, ever since April of 2020...
Kudos for raising a smart kid who is raising your granchild consciously.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
31 Dec 2021 10:55 pm
Indeed it's hard to heal when one is in sheer terror of dying after being propagandized into believing a cold (corona) virus is a fatal condition. Not only killed by the fear porn and mass psychosis ginned up by humanity's would-be global masters, but also directly killed by the hospital Illness Industry by way of Remdesivir, and all because they were too lazy, ignorant or stupid to prepare for early outpatient treatment. Or even to just change the damn channel.Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 11:43 pm » wrote: ↑ I wasn't concerned - I was supremely confident. I had walked a couple of family members through it, and I knew that I have a extremely good immune system. I DID expect a tougher go. I strongly suspect that my positive attitude toward my certain victory was a force multiplier against the disease. Of course, the corollary to THAT is this: I consider many of those who died to have been murdered by the propaganda that built the disease up as the very Reaper himself. They were convinced that catching it was a death sentence - and as they believed, so it was unto them.
https://rumble.com/embed/vona2k/?pub=4
There are usually about 12,000 to 52,000 flu deaths in the U.S. each year. Now imagine how stupid a person has to be to ever again tune in and listen to the sheer stupidity of the morons in this video talking as if a single Omicron death would be news, rather than being repulsed each time they ever have to suffer the misfortune of seeing any of their faces again.
https://youtu.be/BI5E8z89c9U
31 Dec 2021 11:55 pm
Definitely enlightening if looked at as a test run. So was the virus and our reaction to it. Scary ****.SJConspirator » 31 Dec 2021, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑ The vaxx is the most mysterious and terrifying thing to ever be pushed on this country. Think of all the sinister reasons they might want to inject us with mystery serum
To prime our bodies for some future event like mass Cloning?
To change our DNA , render us sterile in a bid to reduce global Population?
Anything is possible. And the oligarchs have absolute power, which means they are absolutely corrupt. To submit to the jab is to trust the devil himself
1 Jan 2022 4:16 am
"Pfizer Vaccine EXPOSED! Less than 1% effective, Did More Harm Than Good, They Knew It and Tricked You"Blackvegetable » 31 Dec 2021, 6:32 pm » wrote: ↑ That must be why the unvaxxed die at an appreciably higher rate.
You're a moron, pedoroad..
Go wax the pedovan.
"Pfizer used a math trick to make people believe their vaccine was 95% effective, but the truth is it was 0.8% effective."
https://thenewamerican.com/pfizer-vacci ... icked-you/
1 Jan 2022 4:28 am
"Robert Koch Institute: 95.58% Of German Omicron Cases Are In Vaxxed–Only 4.42% Are Unvaxxed"Blackvegetable » 31 Dec 2021, 6:32 pm » wrote: ↑ That must be why the unvaxxed die at an appreciably higher rate.
You're a moron, pedoroad..
Go wax the pedovan.
"Another vaccine narrative is crumbling."
https://thepalmierireport.com/robert-ko ... -unvaxxed/
1 Jan 2022 4:35 am
What are the odds the (((globalists))) pushing a vaccine supposedly for the purpose of immunizing the population against a virus that is either fake or indistinguishable from the common cold (plz don’t cite manufactured government statistics on Covid CFR, cases/deaths, etc. I couldn’t care less) have benevolent intentions with said vaccine?
Somewhere between 0.01% and 0.02%?
Somewhere between 0.01% and 0.02%?
1 Jan 2022 4:37 am
Btw it’s actually kind of sad even with their fake numbers, they’re allowing conservatives who oppose vaccine mandates and lockdowns to use their own numbers against them.
If you’re going to lie you’d better do it boldly, lol.
If you’re going to lie you’d better do it boldly, lol.
1 Jan 2022 5:18 am
So your OPINION you call "logic", is somehow magically right and mine is well, "just opinion"??Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 8:40 pm » wrote: ↑ All of that is opinion, which you articulate in a manner that conveys you believe to be fact. As to mild cases, I and my family have proved the peer reviewed research which shows MILDER cases when Ivermectin is used.
Your facile assurances are propaganda- based. You spew opinions as if they are objective facts.
Yes, they are.
If you have zero symptoms, did you get the disease? If so, I have had the flu for the past 45 years and not known it. I guess I also "had" polio.
Comparing the way that I "had" polio and "had" flu to the way you pukers get the **** beat out of you by covid is appropriately ****. You're on your game. Only in the politicized world of medicine that you infest is the "no vax COMPLETELY prevents the disease" an excuse for that fact that yours DOESN'T. They lied to you when they said, ""Okay, okay, it doesn't prevent it like we said - but it would be even WORSE if you hadn't played the lab rat." ANd instead of being incensed at being played YET AGAIN, you are obediently parroting their tripe.
You are welcome to that opinion. Let's recount how stupid you are. WATCH:
https://i.postimg.cc/WzgP78Df/vaccine-facts-or-hoax.jpg
However, my OPINION is 100% based on factual science where as your "logic" is based on well, your belief based on whatever it is you based it on which has little to do with any factual science.
Nice try at a dismissal, but you failed miserably here.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
1 Jan 2022 6:17 am
Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 11:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I absolutely agree. But the people I am confronting with this math do not. So I prefer to give them numbers they CAN'T dispute.
I tested positive on Tuesday, did my regular workout on Friday. Tuesday and Wednesday were rough, by thursday the improvement was profound, and I woke up today well.
I'm still going to complete the protocol. though. I have a id from working coming over every day to do it with me - he tested positive the next day after I did.
1 Jan 2022 6:44 am
you're a moron, pedoroad.roadkill » 01 Jan 2022, 5:16 am » wrote: ↑ "Pfizer Vaccine EXPOSED! Less than 1% effective, Did More Harm Than Good, They Knew It and Tricked You"
"Pfizer used a math trick to make people believe their vaccine was 95% effective, but the truth is it was 0.8% effective."
https://thenewamerican.com/pfizer-vacci ... icked-you/
1 Jan 2022 7:09 am
The math adds up to...you are a dumb-***.Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑ This is PG thread and I'll not brook trolling - but I'm leaving it wide open in case those with other views wish to weight in PERTINENTLY.
This is MY math - I stand ready to be corrected if anyone finds an error.
1. 20% of all medicines approved by the FDA are subsequently withdrawn from the market - the majority, for safety concerns. Many of these end up in late night television commercials, soliciting clients for class action law suits: "Did you, or someone you love, take XYZ medication and have your butt hole prolapse or your liver sprout warts or your throat fall out? Call Dewey, Cheatum and Howe - you may be entitle to relief..."
2. The odds of a medication being withdrawn for health and safety reasons go up, when regulatory hurdles are waived to facilitate hasty deployment.
3. My odds of dying from Covid are placed at 3 in 10 thousand, just for being an American. If you get more granular, my odds go up a bit for being over 45, but down a bit for having an extremely good immune system. Not being chronically D-deficient lowers my odds significantly, as, IMO, does my command of the Ivermectin Protocol.
So I was faced with rolling the dice on a 20% chance of an adverse outcome from the jab - and that number is conservative, since the jab was passed in haste through the waiver of ordinary hurdles. Or I could buck the tiger's odds on a disease that had a 3 in 10k chance of ending me.
I felt lucky. I rolled the dice based on my own optimism and confidence in my ability to fight back against a virus through intelligent supplementation and intelligent course of treatment. In the end, I got my secret, perverse wish, and was blessed with a case of Covid19. It hit harder than I thought it would - I was impressed. But it had no staying power against the Ivermectin regime and my other supplement strategies. I got my first symptoms on Monday, and today, I am well. And - as I shall soon prove, - I have antibodies which will be a blessing to my society, Now that I have these antibodies, I intend to resume giving plasma, so that I can help to spread herd immunity to my countrymen.
Are there any obvious flaws in my math or logic, dear reader?
1 Jan 2022 7:18 am
Happy New Year Bdip.
1 Jan 2022 7:31 am
Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Here is a study from JAMA about "post market safety events" in the first decade of this century, showing that 32% of new medications, after initially passing muster, were found to present dangers not known to regulators when they were approved: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/f ... le/2625319
Here's an NPR report on the same Yale study referenced above, which reads, "Seventy-one of the 222 drugs approved in the first decade of the millennium were withdrawn, required a "black box" warning on side effects or warranted a safety announcement about new risks, Dr. Joseph Ross, an associate professor of medicine at Yale School of Medicine, and colleagues reported in JAMA on Tuesday. The study included safety actions through Feb. 28."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... a-approval
"Natalie Winters asks the right question: Why was Pfizer partnering with the Chinese Communist Party's platform for vaccine passports and social credit scores the year before the COVID-19 "pandemic" started?"
https://media.gab.com/system/media_atta ... 315dbd.mp4
1 Jan 2022 8:27 am
To clinically paranoid conspiracy theorists...of course.SJConspirator » 31 Dec 2021, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑ Think of all the sinister reasons they might want to inject us with mystery serum
1 Jan 2022 8:54 am
I can't detect any fllaws in your math or logic.... it sounds entirely reasonable... maybe a bit too reasonable... the vaxxination cult doesn't care about your math, there's another agenda at work... I think you should take that into account too...Cannonpointer » 31 Dec 2021, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Are there any obvious flaws in my math or logic, dear reader?
In memory of Pumpkins
1 Jan 2022 9:58 am
Back in June I posted an article from the British Medical Journal regarding even more than tricky math and closer to outright fraud. No wonder they want their cronies at the FDA make the public wait 55 years before we can see their data:roadkill » 01 Jan 2022, 5:16 am » wrote: ↑ "Pfizer Vaccine EXPOSED! Less than 1% effective, Did More Harm Than Good, They Knew It and Tricked You"
"Pfizer used a math trick to make people believe their vaccine was 95% effective, but the truth is it was 0.8% effective."
https://thenewamerican.com/pfizer-vacci ... icked-you/
"“Suspected covid-19”
All attention has focused on the dramatic efficacy results: Pfizer reported 170 PCR confirmed covid-19 cases, split 8 to 162 between vaccine and placebo groups. But these numbers were dwarfed by a category of disease called “suspected covid-19”—those with symptomatic covid-19 that were not PCR confirmed. According to FDA’s report on Pfizer’s vaccine, there were “3410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group.”
With 20 times more suspected than confirmed cases, this category of disease cannot be ignored simply because there was no positive PCR test result. Indeed this makes it all the more urgent to understand. A rough estimate of vaccine efficacy against developing covid-19 symptoms, with or without a positive PCR test result, would be a relative risk reduction of 19% (see footnote)—far below the 50% effectiveness threshold for authorization set by regulators. Even after removing cases occurring within 7 days of vaccination (409 on Pfizer’s vaccine vs. 287 on placebo), which should include the majority of symptoms due to short-term vaccine reactogenicity, vaccine efficacy remains low: 29% (see footnote)."
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/pe ... -raw-data/
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